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SETTLERS OUTNUMBER TC's BY 2 TO 1

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby Get Real! » Fri Jul 09, 2010 11:27 pm

Bananiot wrote:In 2004 you voted for the Turkish army to stay in Cyprus and for the settlers to keep coming

Right, so Cyprus is also responsible for Turkey’s international violations? How can I ever take your posts seriously Bananiot?


The IV. Geneva Convention of 1949

Artical. 49. Individual or mass forcible transfers, as well as deportations of protected persons from occupied territory to the territory of the Occupying Power or to that of any other country, occupied or not, are prohibited, regardless of their motive.

Nevertheless, the Occupying Power may undertake total or partial evacuation of a given area if the security of the population or imperative military reasons so demand. Such evacuations may not involve the displacement of protected persons outside the bounds of the occupied territory except when for material reasons it is impossible to avoid such displacement. Persons thus evacuated shall be transferred back to their homes as soon as hostilities in the area in question have ceased.

The Occupying Power undertaking such transfers or evacuations shall ensure, to the greatest practicable extent, that proper accommodation is provided to receive the protected persons, that the removals are effected in satisfactory conditions of hygiene, health, safety and nutrition, and that members of the same family are not separated.

The Protecting Power shall be informed of any transfers and evacuations as soon as they have taken place.

The Occupying Power shall not detain protected persons in an area particularly exposed to the dangers of war unless the security of the population or imperative military reasons so demand.

The Occupying Power shall not deport or transfer parts of its own civilian population into the territory it occupies.


http://www.icrc.org/ihl.nsf/7c4d08d9b28 ... 1e004aa3c5


The Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court (1998) defines "the transfer directly or indirectly by the Occupying power of parts of its own civilian population into the territory it occupies" as a War Crime indictable by the International Criminal Court. (Article 7, Crimes Against Humanity.)
http://untreaty.un.org/cod/icc/statute/romefra.htm


The Hague Convention

Article. 46. Family honours and rights, individual lives and private property, as well as religious convictions and liberty, must be respected.
Private property cannot be confiscated.”

Prohibits the confiscation of private property in occupied territory, therefore the confiscation of land by the Turkish government for settlement construction is in violation of this article. (Laws and Customs of War on Land (Hague II); July 29, 1899)


Article. 55. The occupying State shall only be regarded as administrator and *usufructuary of the public buildings, real property, forests and agricultural works belonging to the hostile State, and situated in the occupied country. It must protect the capital of these properties, and administer it according to the rules of usufruct.”

In other words, the occupying power cannot take over or use territories or private properties in the occupied territories to serve the interests of its civilian population. (Laws and Customs of War on Land (Hague II); July 29, 1899)


* A person who has the use and enjoyment of something, especially property

http://www.icrc.org/ihl.nsf/385ec082b50 ... enDocument
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Postby Malapapa » Fri Jul 09, 2010 11:36 pm

humanist wrote:What is the British ex pat population in the occupied area of Cyprus?


A figure of 22,000 was mentioned on the ITV 'Homes from Hell' programme. That's quite a lot of ex pats living in hell, in homes which aren't theirs.
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Postby Bananiot » Fri Jul 09, 2010 11:41 pm

You can't GR, you have totally lost it.
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Postby Piratis » Fri Jul 09, 2010 11:49 pm

Acikgoz wrote:Pratis, I now see this going on for a few decades, consider most the immigrants came in the last decade, their children will be born here, they will have made their homes and lives here. You will never be able to "get rid of them". THEY ARE HERE TO STAY, and they are a damn sight closer to countrymen than our supposed bretheren the Greek Cypriots.


When Crete was liberated they send all the Turks back to Turkey even though those Turks were in Crete for 2 centuries. So how do you know that the Turkish Settlers in Cyprus are "here to stay"?

The Turkish Settlers are not welcomed to Cyprus because they were brought here by Turkey with the intention of changing the demographics of our island. Therefore when Cyprus will be liberated they will go back to their homeland.
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Postby Piratis » Fri Jul 09, 2010 11:54 pm

Bananiot wrote:True solution, my foot, Piratis. In 2004 you voted for the Turkish army to stay in Cyprus and for the settlers to keep coming (sorry Kikapu, solution in 2004 would have stemmed the influx of settlers). Now you have the audacity to ask for true solution. Do you think this is a game and you can play or quit at will?


The aim of the Turkish army was to partition Cyprus and make 1/3rd of Cyprus Turkish. With Annan plan the Turkish army would have achieved its aim.

You voted for the legalization of the results of the invasion and as far as the Settlers go none would leave, more would come, and 10s of thousands of them would be given the Cypriot citizenship and roam free in the whole Cyprus.
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Postby Get Real! » Fri Jul 09, 2010 11:58 pm

Bananiot wrote:You can't GR, you have totally lost it.

Then I must have an emergency meeting with my disciple for a new strategy… 8)

Where’s that little weasel DT gone? :?
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Fri Jul 09, 2010 11:59 pm

The truth is all settlers will stay if they keep on holding stolen GC properties and if they get citizenship.
Of course the Gcs will never accept such a solution, while the settlers will never accept a solution that will take away from them what they now hold illegally. The settlers issue is just one of the many that make the CP impossible to solve.

Turkey and the TC leadership were always working along the lines of making SOLUTION IMPOSSIBLE.

Now that their goal has been accomplished and the know damn well that either there is no solution, or there is one in which the GCs legalize with their own signature the results of the invasion, they go around playing the nice guys, who are in a hurry to get a solution the soonest possible, preferably before December!!!

Or else they say the negotiation can't continue for ever, the pseudo state must be recognized, it's a pitty they say the TC+200%Settlers to live in an unrecognised "state" in isolation.

Not a a word of course on the fact that that "state" is by 80% made of stolen GC homes, properties and lands!
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Postby Acikgoz » Sat Jul 10, 2010 12:03 am

Side note: As sources of information go, Serdar was never the one with brains in the family.
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Sat Jul 10, 2010 12:13 am

What;s Serdar has to do with it? :roll:
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Re: SETTLERS OUTNUMBER TC's BY 2 TO 1

Postby Pyrpolizer » Sat Jul 10, 2010 12:21 am

Bananiot wrote:Serdar Denktash complained the other day that the number of settlers now has reached twice the number of Turkish Cypriots. We have dealt with the problem posed my Ms J Lo, what can we do about the settlers, whose numbers will continue to increase without solution?


Press the panic button? :lol: :lol: :lol:
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