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[Nikitas]

On CYBC tonight, on Irene Haralambidou's programme there were new insghts about EOKA B' and specifically their funding.

Four people who were in key positions in the Tactical Reserve Force, the commaner Pantazis, high ranking officers Papakostas, Tsangaris and Andreas Azinas (who had been a minister if I remember rightly) recalled the conflict with EOKA B in the early 1970s..

Tsangaris who said that after 1974 he spent some years in USA and had contacts with ranking US official who had served in Cyprus, stated that EOKA B funds came from the Turkish intelligence service via Greek shipowners. Tsangaris named shipowner Potamianos and a man called Kosmas Iliadis as the go between. This much, Tsangaris said, was known to US agents in Cyprus and they confirmed it to him in America.

This is a new twist and explains a lot. As the former commander of the Tactical Rserve Force said, EOKA B brought the Coup which brought in Turkey. Looking at it from this point of view then the source of funds is self explanatory.

[insan]

On CYBC tonight, on Irene Haralambidou's programme there were new insghts about EOKA B' and specifically their funding.

Four people who were in key positions in the Tactical Reserve Force, the commaner Pantazis, high ranking officers Papakostas, Tsangaris and Andreas Azinas (who had been a minister if I remember rightly) recalled the conflict with EOKA B in the early 1970s..

Tsangaris who said that after 1974 he spent some years in USA and had contacts with ranking US official who had served in Cyprus, stated that EOKA B funds came from the Turkish intelligence service via Greek shipowners. Tsangaris named shipowner Potamianos and a man called Kosmas Iliadis as the go between. This much, Tsangaris said, was known to US agents in Cyprus and they confirmed it to him in America.

This is a new twist and explains a lot. As the former commander of the Tactical Rserve Force said, EOKA B brought the Coup which brought in Turkey. Looking at it from this point of view then the source of funds is self explanatory.

More galimatias from the ultra-nationalist Hellenes... Imagine the ultra-nationalist Grivas and all other ultra-nationalist Hellenes who were leading and backing EOKA-B, collaborating with Turks for the partition of Cyprus.

[Nikitas]

Insan you are being a little naive here or deliberately obtuse. EOKA B members did not know where the money came from, that is why there were middlemen llike the shipowner and the courier who moved the cash around.

Grivas, like Makarios, were believers in the ideal Greece they constructed in their heads, they could not fathom that double union had in fact been agreed in 1968 in the Evros talks. It is also very likely that neither one realised the extent of the dictator Ioannides madness. The guy was totally nuts and almost everyone who met him confirms this.

[bill cobbett]

On CYBC tonight, on Irene Haralambidou's programme there were new insghts about EOKA B' and specifically their funding.

Four people who were in key positions in the Tactical Reserve Force, the commaner Pantazis, high ranking officers Papakostas, Tsangaris and Andreas Azinas (who had been a minister if I remember rightly) recalled the conflict with EOKA B in the early 1970s..

Tsangaris who said that after 1974 he spent some years in USA and had contacts with ranking US official who had served in Cyprus, stated that EOKA B funds came from the Turkish intelligence service via Greek shipowners. Tsangaris named shipowner Potamianos and a man called Kosmas Iliadis as the go between. This much, Tsangaris said, was known to US agents in Cyprus and they confirmed it to him in America.

This is a new twist and explains a lot. As the former commander of the Tactical Rserve Force said, EOKA B brought the Coup which brought in Turkey. Looking at it from this point of view then the source of funds is self explanatory.

Gosh! .... always took commonly held view that it came from the CIA. Looks like it may well have been a bit more devious.

[Gasman]

More conspiracies! I was reading an article today in Eurasia Critic that said:

London tries to maintain a degree of neutrality between the Greek and Turkish Cypriot communities, although many citizens of an island so attached to conspiracy theories and zero-sum diplomacy as is Cyprus refuse to accept that fact.

Greek and Turkish Cypriots alike have been reluctant to recognise either their own responsibility for their island's misfortunes or that primary responsibility for settling these differences lies with them.

[Piratis]

More conspiracies! I was reading an article today in Eurasia Critic that said:

London tries to maintain a degree of neutrality between the Greek and Turkish Cypriot communities, although many citizens of an island so attached to conspiracy theories and zero-sum diplomacy as is Cyprus refuse to accept that fact.

Greek and Turkish Cypriots alike have been reluctant to recognise either their own responsibility for their island's misfortunes or that primary responsibility for settling these differences lies with them.

Dear Gasman, if Cyprus was left alone it would:
(1) Be part of the Greek State since this is what the vast majority of Cypriots wanted.
(2) The Turkish minority on the island would be just like every other minority in any other country.

Do you really think that an 18% minority stopped Cyprus from uniting with Greece and they managed to get all those privileges and powers in the constitution by themselves? And maybe this 18% minority today has the power to occupy 37% of the land of Cyprus? Are you really that naive?

There is no "conspiracy theory" but just some basic truths: Behind the TCs are Turkey and the UK. Both Turkey and the UK wanted (and continue to want) to maintain troops and control over parts of our island and they use the Turkish minority on the island as the excuse in order to get what they want.

[Get Real!]

(1) Be part of the Greek State since this is what the vast majority of Cypriots wanted.

Piratis, it’s just as well Cyprus did not become part of this embarrassing Greek bankruptcy of the 21st century!

[denizaksulu]

More conspiracies! I was reading an article today in Eurasia Critic that said:

London tries to maintain a degree of neutrality between the Greek and Turkish Cypriot communities, although many citizens of an island so attached to conspiracy theories and zero-sum diplomacy as is Cyprus refuse to accept that fact.

Greek and Turkish Cypriots alike have been reluctant to recognise either their own responsibility for their island's misfortunes or that primary responsibility for settling these differences lies with them.

Dear Gasman, if Cyprus was left alone it would:
(1) Be part of the Greek State since this is what the vast majority of Cypriots wanted.
(2) The Turkish minority on the island would be just like every other minority in any other country.

Do you really think that an 18% minority stopped Cyprus from uniting with Greece and they managed to get all those privileges and powers in the constitution by themselves? And maybe this 18% minority today has the power to occupy 37% of the land of Cyprus? Are you really that naive?

There is no "conspiracy theory" but just some basic truths: Behind the TCs are Turkey and the UK. Both Turkey and the UK wanted (and continue to want) to maintain troops and control over parts of our island and they use the Turkish minority on the island as the excuse in order to get what they want.

[Gasman]

Piratis, I was quoting an article from Eurasia Critic. Perhaps you should contact them and point out the flaws in their thinking.

Whenever I read this stuff about Cyprus being at one with Greece, it is always being spouted by Cypriots.

I don't find Greeks on Greek Forums or Greek website articles crying out for Cyprus to become part of Greece. Quite the opposite in fact.

It puts me in mind of a spurned spouse who keeps begging their ex partner to come back, even after they've remarried and moved on!

Do you have any links to pressure groups in Greece calling for unification with Cyprus? Or any petitions set up by Greeks calling for the same? I do mean Greeks in GREECE. Not wannabee Greeks from the GC Diaspora outside Cyprus.

[Gasman]

And to me, it begs the question why, if so many GCs yearn only to be part of Greece and considered 'Greek', why the hell did they not MOVE TO GREECE in large numbers - instead of to the UK and the US (countries those same GCs profess to detest and BLAME for a lot of their troubles?)

They seem very odd choices for them to make their permanent homes in - as odd to me as choosing to live in Turkey (the other country they blame for their troubles).