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[Kifeas]

Whenever the US was in a dilemma, “either with Cyprus or Turkey,” almost always the easy answer was, “with Turkey!”

Russia many times has also been in a very similar dilemma, and in almost all times, the difficult answer in her case was, “with Cyprus!”

Recently, Cyprus has also found itself in an “either or” difficult dilemma. “With Russia, or with the US?” No third option was possible.

What should have been the reply?

[Kikapu]

Stick with the devil you already know.!

[denizaksulu]

How good has the devil been to you? What were the benefits for you?

[cymart]

If most Cypriots knew the truth about the Russian regime and how life is for the majority of people there,they would not want anything to do with the place!Further more,Russia has never directly condemned Turkeys occupation of the north and always plays a middle role on the Cyprus issue because it has interests with both the G.C's-and,far more important ones with Turkey!Don't be at all surprised if Moscow isn't conspiring to keep the Cyprus problem unsolved for as long as possible,firstly because it will block Turkeys E.U. entry and push them in an easterly direction,something which Russia favours, and secondly because a solution here will strengthen NATO by helping Greece and Turkey solve their problems,not to mention the shady activities of Russians on the island in various spheres!
Brezhnev did this in 1978 by getting AKEL to make Kyprianou reject the Western Plan and again in 2004 when T.P. sent Yiacovou to Moscow to ensure Moscow vetoed the adoption of the Annan Plan by the Security Council...and what was Marcos Kyprianou doing there again last week with Lavrov?

[wyoming cowboy]

The mistake Cyprus seems to be consistantly make is to turn its back to the
USA and Nato, its probably because of the large communist party. Cyprus petitioning to join Nato, would have solved and averted many problems of our past recent history. The Tmt would have never been allowed to form neither Eoka b. No junta in Greece and no invasion by Turkey.

Russia would not act to help Cyprus in a crisis as was proven in 1974, when during the coup the population was brainwashed in thinking that Soviet naval ships would blockade Cyprus....it didnt happen obviously...If we consider Turkey to be our enemy who better to ally yourself with then the usa and nato who control Turkey....

[Gasman]

So what happened to the notion that ISRAEL was going to be the salvation of Cyprus? Not a mention of Israel here. Just after the flotilla incident it was very different.

[Kikapu]

How good has the devil been to you? What were the benefits for you?

It's hard to tell what good has it been, Deniz.. The question that you should be asking is, how would it been like without the "devil you already know".?

[Kifeas]

If most Cypriots knew the truth about the Russian regime and how life is for the majority of people there,they would not want anything to do with the place!Further more,Russia has never directly condemned Turkeys occupation of the north and always plays a middle role on the Cyprus issue because it has interests with both the G.C's-and,far more important ones with Turkey!Don't be at all surprised if Moscow isn't conspiring to keep the Cyprus problem unsolved for as long as possible,firstly because it will block Turkeys E.U. entry and push them in an easterly direction,something which Russia favours, and secondly because a solution here will strengthen NATO by helping Greece and Turkey solve their problems,not to mention the shady activities of Russians on the island in various spheres!
Brezhnev did this in 1978 by getting AKEL to make Kyprianou reject the Western Plan and again in 2004 when T.P. sent Yiacovou to Moscow to ensure Moscow vetoed the adoption of the Annan Plan by the Security Council...and what was Marcos Kyprianou doing there again last week with Lavrov?

You are indeed very thick!

Why would we (GCs) want the UN SC to adopt the Annan Plan, when 75% of us had rejected it, and why wouldn't or shouldn't we sent (Y)Iakovou to Russia, or to the Devilsland if that is what it would take for this matter, if its adoption by the UN SC was by all accounts considered an anathema by us?

[denizaksulu]

How good has the devil been to you? What were the benefits for you?

It's hard to tell what good has it been, Deniz.. The question that you should be asking is, how would it been like without the "devil you already know".?

Pandoras Box?

[Oracle]

Whenever the US was in a dilemma, “either with Cyprus or Turkey,” almost always the easy answer was, “with Turkey!”

Russia many times has also been in a very similar dilemma, and in almost all times, the difficult answer in her case was, “with Cyprus!”

Recently, Cyprus has also found itself in an “either or” difficult dilemma. “With Russia, or with the US?” No third option was possible.

What should have been the reply?

We're back to the desirable and the feasible again. As much as we wished to be part of Greece one time, it became obvious it was never really up to us. Do we really have the choice again, with whom to follow? Or, do they decide for us? We're tied to the USA, by proxy, from Greece's NATO membership. So, we are not as free as we would like in order to wholeheartedly woo Russia.

If Greece abandoned NATO, then a combined Greece-Cyprus alliance will synergistically be a more valuable package for Russia. Would Greece do that for us?