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With the US, or with Russia? That is the question.

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby DT. » Thu Jul 08, 2010 11:12 am

Bananiot wrote:DT, surely you cannot be that naive. I am talking about the commercial agreements Turkey has with countries like Russia that make this country (Russia) with the so called principled stand on the Cyprus, a potential supported of Turkey's interests in the real world, and you talk about Oman! Our economy hangs on a thin thread and you call for an economics race with Turkey. It will only take a couple of Turkish fighter jets to make some noise over Nicosia for the tourist industry to crumble, or a couple of bullets fired over Protaras, to send the tourist scampering for cover. The real situation is so fragile but you still have visions of grandeur. WITHOUT SOLUTION, MY FRIEND, YOUR VISION FOR CYPRUS IS A JOKE!

Equally serious is your call for Cyprus to enter into an arms race with Turkey (I smell GR's influence here). I think you turn yourself into a comic debater with your ideas and this is very sad indeed.


Your old fashioned notions of economic development= competing with Turkey in economic importance and sound defense systems= arms race with turkey are laughable and naive to say the least.

I am not saying Cyprus can be more economically important than Turkey or that it should have an arms race with Turkey. Not everything that Cyprus does has to compete with Turkey, get that in your head. I know about the investment that goes into Turkey and I also know the benefits of treating the Turkish market as client base rather than an enemy.

For you however Bananiot and your 70's outlook everything needs to be a competition and a conflict. One cannot develop without conflicting with the other. This is the lack of vision I am speaking about and one that the likes of Syllouris and Co are selling to you Bananiots.

When have I spoken of an arms race with Turkey, I said to invest in our defense in order to have our sovereignty and state respected by ALL our neighbours. One does not need to match another in power to deter them from adventurous thinking. One need only make oneself a big enough opportunity cost to the other counterparty. This is how firstly you as a state respect yourself and secondly how others respect you.

Cyprus needs to develop its own direction whether it has solved the cyprus problem or not.

Now I'd take care of the charcterisations you've been using lately and the freedom you've allowed your brain to wonder when addressing my points. It would serve us both better if you approach this with a thought for a change and not your reflex "anti-fascist" machine gun posts.

As for
(I smell GR's influence here).


If you want to talk with GR go ahead but now you're talking with me and the only thing that smells right now is definitely not GR's influence but Papapetrou's self loathing neo-liberalism.
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Postby Get Real! » Thu Jul 08, 2010 12:04 pm

Bananiot wrote:Equally serious is your call for Cyprus to enter into an arms race with Turkey (I smell GR's influence here). I think you turn yourself into a comic debater with your ideas and this is very sad indeed.

Whereas your idea is to enter a partition race to see how many dissections can be achieved p/Km^2 so as to enter the Guinness book of records? :lol:
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