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[paliometoxo]

Someone told me that the CA pilots are paid 120,000 euros per month !! If this is so then one can see why CA is so expensive to fly with.
To suggest that it is in a different class from budget airlines is rather flimsy in my opinion as a regular flyer. I dont fly because I enjoy the thrill of being up in the air for 4 plus hours , only do so to get to the other side !!

i think its per year not month.. my uncle is a pilot and he gets that per year, but im not sure if hes with cyprus airlines

Yes it is a year I made a mistake.
Dont you think thats rather a lot of money ?

for the work they do.. not really i think its good. even though the computers fly the planes now

[denizaksulu]

easy jet is rubbish anyway they speak english lightening speed fast so i cant understand they dont have food for free any way where as cyprus airways they serve me food give me drinks and i have a better flight

That is one of the benefits of competiveness. You have a choice. Nothing wrong with that. Your choice is to pay more than £100 extra for a meal fit for 'cats'. That is a matter of opinion ofcourse, but some choose to take a different route. How nice. Of course in the north(airlines), you have NO choice. Count yourself lucky Palio.

[Paphitis]

2 completely different airlines offering a very different service.

You can not compare EasyJet with CA. Like comparing a Lemon to an Orange!

Paphitis , I'm a regular flyer to Cyprus this year alone 4 times plus 2 in July making 6 flights in all so far. £120 per flight average saving makes a tidy sum. I agree that CA is the best but I cant afford the best that flies out of Heathrow which is inconvenient to me. Besides I'm a working ...boy !!
Easyjet is pretty fair , you pay for drinks etc but nowhere near £125 !!

The 2 airlines are offer a completely different service. CA is a full service business airline, whilst EasyJet is a back to basics no thrills budget service!

You can not compare CA to EasyJet!

Don't be silly , both offer the exact same route , one with free drinks and a personal monitor and the other without !! For the wealthy or for the once a year traveller CA is indeed a better choice but for me Easyjet is fine ! I'm also booked for July 16th and Im now looking for August 20th to be at my granddaughters first birthday on August 25th , then its October my daughters birthday , then is November my other granddaughters birthday then of course is Christmas,. I work 6 days a week 10 hours a day I earn my money the hard way , do I want to throw it away paying exorbitantly high prices ? Of course not.
I'm just trying to book for August 20th to August 30th , morning flights and afternoon departure . CA £474.00 , Easyjet £336.00 dif £138.00 , now lets see how many average cost bottles of wine , each at say £6.00 have I saved , I make it on just the one flight 23 BOTTLES including the other two total number of ..wine bottles a staggering 118 , enough to keep me ...plastered for at least a month or two !!!

What you are saying is that you are happy to be travelling with a budget airline such as EasyJet, because the airfares are cheaper most of the time (not always)! There is nothing wrong with that!

But you can not say that CA is far too expensive because of the comparison you offer with EasyJet! They are 2 completely airlines offering a different service. EasyJet, have fewer cabin crew, have a tighter seat pitch, do not offer food and drink, cruise at a lower Mach Number (to save fuel), restrict your baggage weights and will severely fine you when checking excess baggage, and have faster turnarounds to save air bridge costs.

Therefore, you can appreciate the fact that CA has an entirely different cost structure than EasyJet who run a very lean back to basics service. As a result, CA is able to charge far more and get away with it, because they have better Cabin Service, more Flight Attendants, more leg room, have a more generous baggage allowance, and offer free food and drink. Also, prices are governed by supply and demand. The demand for CA tickets by Corporate travellers and the more fussy infrequent flyers will dictate CA ticket prices, particularly at short notice.

Comparing CA to EasyJet is like comparing QANTAS to EuroCypria or a BMW to a Hyundai!

Paphitis,

One other area where the budget airlines are making a big savings, which most of us are unwilling to acknowledge, is in their employees pay and benefits over the major airlines, in which many major airlines in order to compete, have also severely slashed their employees pay and benefits, either through direct union concessions, or through phony bankruptcy reorganisation. Overall, by flying budget airlines, we have all contributed to the demise of decent pay and benefits of those in the aviation industry. I can tell you, most pilots stay in the business because their love of flying and not because they are making a very good living at it. Personally speaking, unless the aviation industry becomes regulated again, it stands to only attract mediocre personnel in the future, where safety may be compromised. Overall, in comparison to everything else in travelling, flying is relatively cheaper, when one looks at the overall expense in running an airliner.!

Very true Kikapu!

Their pilots are also required to pay for their A320 endorsement!

Pilot retention is also a big problem for these budget airlines. Pilots will use these airlines as a stepping stone.

[paliometoxo]

easy jet is rubbish anyway they speak english lightening speed fast so i cant understand they dont have food for free any way where as cyprus airways they serve me food give me drinks and i have a better flight

That is one of the benefits of competiveness. You have a choice. Nothing wrong with that. Your choice is to pay more than £100 extra for a meal fit for 'cats'. That is a matter of opinion ofcourse, but some choose to take a different route. How nice. Of course in the north(airlines), you have NO choice. Count yourself lucky Palio.

lol i never really thought about it. now on the cy airlines they upgraded the seats put better business class seats and tvs and the staff are friendly.. in the english ones they where also but it was not as nice and ofc i had nothing to eat and was so bored with no tv for 4.5 hours.

american airlines was amazing, i wish i could use them again. maybe one day, but for now its cyprus airways only and going to and from england and greece

.. what air lines do you use?

[denizaksulu]

easy jet is rubbish anyway they speak english lightening speed fast so i cant understand they dont have food for free any way where as cyprus airways they serve me food give me drinks and i have a better flight

That is one of the benefits of competiveness. You have a choice. Nothing wrong with that. Your choice is to pay more than £100 extra for a meal fit for 'cats'. That is a matter of opinion ofcourse, but some choose to take a different route. How nice. Of course in the north(airlines), you have NO choice. Count yourself lucky Palio.

lol i never really thought about it. now on the cy airlines they upgraded the seats put better business class seats and tvs and the staff are friendly.. in the english ones they where also but it was not as nice and ofc i had nothing to eat and was so bored with no tv for 4.5 hours.

american airlines was amazing, i wish i could use them again. maybe one day, but for now its cyprus airways only and going to and from england and greece

.. what air lines do you use?

Whoever gets me to my destination in one piece. Usually the cheapest flights which are night time flights. I have done BA, CTA and a few other not relevant to Cyprus.

[Paphitis]

Someone told me that the CA pilots are paid 120,000 euros per month !! If this is so then one can see why CA is so expensive to fly with.
To suggest that it is in a different class from budget airlines is rather flimsy in my opinion as a regular flyer. I dont fly because I enjoy the thrill of being up in the air for 4 plus hours , only do so to get to the other side !!

Miltiades,

you need to face facts mate.

EasyJet is a different type of operation to CA!

And yes, pilots are on a different pay scale at CA. Pilots at CA would earn between 160,000 to 250,000 euros per annum. A Captain at EasyJet would be on half that. A QANTAS B737 Captain pulls about 300,000+.

Pilot retention is a major problem for budget airlines!

[denizaksulu]

Someone told me that the CA pilots are paid 120,000 euros per month !! If this is so then one can see why CA is so expensive to fly with.
To suggest that it is in a different class from budget airlines is rather flimsy in my opinion as a regular flyer. I dont fly because I enjoy the thrill of being up in the air for 4 plus hours , only do so to get to the other side !!

Miltiades,

you need to face facts mate.

EasyJet is a different type of operation to CA!

And yes, pilots are on a different pay scale at CA. Pilots at CA would earn between 160,000 to 250,000 euros per annum. A Captain at EasyJet would be on half that. A QANTAS B737 Captain pulls about 300,000+.

Pilot retention is a major problem for budget airlines!

These facts are irrelevant when all you need is to get from A to B. Some of you forget that the only transport was the Ye olde Cypriot Donkey. Who cares what the pilots earn?

[Paphitis]

Someone told me that the CA pilots are paid 120,000 euros per month !! If this is so then one can see why CA is so expensive to fly with.
To suggest that it is in a different class from budget airlines is rather flimsy in my opinion as a regular flyer. I dont fly because I enjoy the thrill of being up in the air for 4 plus hours , only do so to get to the other side !!

Miltiades,

you need to face facts mate.

EasyJet is a different type of operation to CA!

And yes, pilots are on a different pay scale at CA. Pilots at CA would earn between 160,000 to 250,000 euros per annum. A Captain at EasyJet would be on half that. A QANTAS B737 Captain pulls about 300,000+.

Pilot retention is a major problem for budget airlines!

These facts are irrelevant when all you need is to get from A to B. Some of you forget that the only transport was the Ye olde Cypriot Donkey. Who cares what the pilots earn?

Not so irrelevant when you consider the fact that budget airlines are less competitive in attracting the right pilots with the right experience! I presume that arriving at B in one piece is a major bonus!

As for me, I am a fuss pot. I only use QANTAS for dead head travel (positioning) because I need to use the QANTAS Lounge and get a proper meal because at the back of my rotation I am usually on night shift which means I am back to the hotel at 4am, get about 3 hours sleep and then go to the airport to fly home. We have this as a condition of employment, including QANTAS Lounge membership.

We also have contracted crews to QANTAS domestic so all of us are entitled to ID95 travel!

[miltiades]

Not that anyone cares but I met this ( Kafenes take note ) ...Russian on the plane , staying in Paphos she said , large private villa , come and have a drink with me she asked , sorry I replied but I only have 3 days and I'm spending with family , besides I'm a ..good boy....

Now, isn't that a coincidence. Reeee Miltiiii, ma pion peripezis re? If you truly refused her request then you are a disgrace to the Cypriot race.

Of course I refused her so would you mate , she looked so bloody manly even had a mustache , big masculine hands and a nose as long as concord ,besides I'm already.....spoken for !!!

[miltiades]

Someone told me that the CA pilots are paid 120,000 euros per month !! If this is so then one can see why CA is so expensive to fly with.
To suggest that it is in a different class from budget airlines is rather flimsy in my opinion as a regular flyer. I dont fly because I enjoy the thrill of being up in the air for 4 plus hours , only do so to get to the other side !!

Miltiades,

you need to face facts mate.

EasyJet is a different type of operation to CA!

And yes, pilots are on a different pay scale at CA. Pilots at CA would earn between 160,000 to 250,000 euros per annum. A Captain at EasyJet would be on half that. A QANTAS B737 Captain pulls about 300,000+.

Pilot retention is a major problem for budget airlines!

Give it up mate ! Stelios had the right idea when he introduced Easyjet, no frills , plenty legroom , mostly on time aircraft and bloody good value for money . Just check CA for the 20th August to 29th , Morning flight and afternoon return. CA 474.00 Easyjet 340.00 #134.00 difference , now thats a lot of money for me for a couple of reds and a meal !!!
What you have to understand is that both airlines offer flights to Cyprus , both have identical leg room give or take an inch or so. CA offer freebies and a monitor , CA flight out of Heathrow which is a pain in the backside for me since Gatwick its only 20 minutes away from me.
As you can see I would have to be an absolute plonker to throw money away just for a bloody monitor !!
Back to Cyprus now , went for a meal last evening at a terrific location , Ais Giorgis , lovely restaurant quite large by the sea, excellent fish meze and first class Retsina , would definitely visit again.
Lunch was at Dasoudi where the children enjoyed the games .
Off to Kourion today and my very favourite beach restaurant , Cris's Blue Beach , middle restaurant. I have never had a bad meal or bad service at this wonderful restaurant, my thanks to Savvas for looking after both my son last month and my brother last week. My son rung me when he was in Cyprus and told me that he was at the Blue Beach , I telephoned Savvas and told him to take care of them , son and wife , and to allow me to pay using my debit card . Pros theou Kirie Miltiade he said , pay me when you are next here !!!
Cant wait to get there for lunch and a couple of bottles of KIHOTIS white dry wine . All that money saved by flying Easyjet will more than pay for our lunch !!! Im enjoying the children , Mr Yiannis nose looks to be healing , Christina such a bright child for a 6 year old speaks fluent Greek and English and the 10 month old little Katerina , blonde with bright blue eyes looks more like my late wife , so everyone says , O PSIHI MOU STO ...KOURION !!!