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Varosha/Maras,any changes this summer?

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Postby georgios100 » Sun Jul 04, 2010 10:45 pm

Viewpoint wrote:İ know very well what good gesture means as we do not see anything with regards to gcs taking steps towards unification as you yourself said why should you do anything then i have to ask why not? As for marash you use direct flights and trade as a bargining chip then why should we do the same with Maras?


Honestly VP,

Can you explain why Varoshia was captured, in relation to "protecting" the TC minority community in Cyprus? Afterall, that was the intention of the 1974 invasion.

If you don't have an answer, I'll understand, no problem.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Jul 04, 2010 11:17 pm

You gcs claim the TA did not arrive to save us anyway so your question according to gcs is irrelevant but let me add this without the 37% safe haven created by the TA today we would be in a much more difficult and weaker position against those who wanted to gift Cyprus to Greece or who continue to claim Cyprus is a Greek island.
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Postby DT. » Mon Jul 05, 2010 8:28 am

President of Cyprus has offered up a number of EU chapters to open in exchange for Varoshia handed over to the UN. Apparently this happened at the last meeting the President had with the Turkish foreign minister in Brussels.
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Postby Nikitas » Mon Jul 05, 2010 12:59 pm

Paphitis asked about the creation of jobs if Famagusta is reopened.

A Cypriot EU deputy who is also an economist, I think his name is Prodromou, calculated that at a minimum the economic benefit to the economy would be 5 billion Euro. I think this is a conservative estimate.

The homes alone would be roughly 15000 by 150 meters by 2000 Euro per meter makes 4,5 billion. To that add the hotels, businesses, all infrastructure like roads, water works, electricity and telephone grids and public buildings and the total seems to be nearer 15 to 20 billion Euro. It is a huge project in terms of injecting money into the economy of the island.

And one more point. It is a project for which the island as a whole is equipped to handle with no external help. There are construction companies in Cyprus that have built cities, ports, airports and big infrastructure projects overseas. Our architects and civil engineers are fully capable of putting together the rebuild.

At a time of international financial crisis Famagusta could pull Cyprus above the crisis. But for that to happen we need brains to work at at least 50 per cent efficiency, and that is missing, both north and south of the dividing line.
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Postby Daniella » Mon Jul 12, 2010 5:09 pm

Ciao all
while I will be in Cyprus during all september I wish to go in Famagosta and Varosha city.
Any chance to "enter" the city for me? :oops:
I did not found many info on the web, or rather I wasn't able to search :?
Can anybody help me to get more info?
Thanks in advance
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Postby bill cobbett » Mon Jul 12, 2010 5:33 pm

Daniella wrote:Ciao all
while I will be in Cyprus during all september I wish to go in Famagosta and Varosha city.
Any chance to "enter" the city for me? :oops:
I did not found many info on the web, or rather I wasn't able to search :?
Can anybody help me to get more info?
Thanks in advance


Ciao Bambina Daniella (you scabby lot didn't know i was good at italian did you?)

Fraid no change D. Still closed off this Summer.

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Postby Acikgoz » Mon Jul 12, 2010 5:35 pm

Turkey won't go for chapters vs Varosha.
Have you ever played Monopoly, chapters for Varosha is kind of like saying give me Park Lane (so I can pair it up with my Mayfair), and I'll let you have a free go.
The deliberating over chapters and the ease with which any country can block them has made a nonsense or conceeding anything of value for a chapter except for what the issue the chapter pertains to.
Turkey know they still have a French veto at the end of the process.
Nothing short of real for real will entice a trade.
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