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Whats wrong with our NHS? What are the priorities?

Postby denizaksulu » Wed Jun 30, 2010 6:17 pm

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/artic ... early.html

Today I went to hospital for an eye check up. I was amazed to see their new equipment. Almost identical to eye-scanning equipment I was examined with in Ankara Turkey 4 years ago. Why is the NHS so late in using the latest technology.

...and this article in todays Daily Mail. I did not need to read all of it. Nothing new to me there.

Turkey seems to care more for its sick than the UK - it seems. :?

I suppose they are only Mongolians............

Cancer patients failed: Hospitals in Turkey and Slovakia have more scanners to spot tumours early
By DANIEL MARTIN
Last updated at 10:57 AM on 30th June 2010
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Shortage: UK hospitals have fewer high-tech scanning units than other countries
Cancer survival rates in the UK are so poor because hospitals have fewer high-tech scanning units than countries such as Turkey and Slovakia, a study shows.
Despite a huge increase in health spending under Labour, Britain has one of the lowest numbers of specialised scanners to spot tumours early.
Out of 28 industrialised countries surveyed, only Hungary and Mexico have fewer numbers of computed tomography (CT) scanners per head of population.
And only the Czech Republic, Poland, Hungary and Mexico have fewer magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) units.
The shortages mean that British patients often have to wait weeks
for test results which could diagnose their cancer - delaying their treatment with life-threatening consequences.
Cancer survival rates in the UK are among the lowest in Europe.
A woman diagnosed with breast cancer has a 78.5 per cent chance of being alive five years later, compared to 82.6 per cent in France and 90.5 per cent in the U.S.
The report, by the Organisation for Economic Cooperation and Development, which represents industrialised nations, also found that Britain had fewer hospital beds and fewer doctors than the average industrialised country.
It has led to an appalling situation where life expectancy and infant mortality rates are also higher.
But it is the figures on cancer scans that are among the most stark. The average OECD country has 12.6 MRI units per million people.
But in the UK, the figure is 5.6 - above only the Czech Republic, Poland, Hungary and Mexico.
The British figure is far below Ireland (12.3), Greece (21.8), the U.S. (25.9) and Japan (43.1). It is even below Turkey (6.9) and Slovakia (6.1). And the differences are even greater with CT scans.
The UK figure is 7.4 machines per million population, three times less than the 23.8 OECD average and lower than Turkey (10.2), Germany (16.4) and Australia (38.8).
Again, Turkey and Slovakia have more scanners.
The report said: 'During the past decade, there has been rapid growth in the availability of diagnostic technologies in most OECD countries.
'Although the United Kingdom has also seen some increase in such technologies, the number of MRIs in 2008 was 5.6 per million population, less than half the OECD average of 12.6.
'Furthermore, the number of CT scanners stood at 7.4 per million population, less than three times the OECD average of 23.8.'
Last night Sarah Woolnough of Cancer Research UK insisted patients 'have timely access to the tests', adding: 'When cancer is caught early, treatment is more likely to be successful.'
The report revealed that Britain's spending on healthcare is £2,075 per person - around the OECD average.
But the rise in spending since 2000, at 4.6 per cent every year, is higher than the average.
This has helped pay for more doctors, from two physicians per 1,000 population to 2.6 in 2008. This is still lower than the OECD average of 3.2, however.




Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/artic ... z0sLzOYPQK :lol:
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Postby denizaksulu » Wed Jun 30, 2010 7:49 pm

Ooops. WRONG SECTION.

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Postby Gasman » Wed Jun 30, 2010 7:52 pm

You are very BAAAAD!

Yes, a doctor from the Netherlands, here in Cyprus, told me that the UK is seen as the Cinderella of healthcare by the rest of Europe.


I noticed the more modern scanning and radiology equipment here ages ago.

And to pay for anything privately here (which I do) is a fraction of what it would cost privately in the UK. Because in the UK they rip off the BUPA and other medical insurance companies with the hiked up cost.
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Postby denizaksulu » Wed Jun 30, 2010 8:04 pm

Gasman wrote:You are very BAAAAD!

Yes, a doctor from the Netherlands, here in Cyprus, told me that the UK is seen as the Cinderella of healthcare by the rest of Europe.


I noticed the more modern scanning and radiology equipment here ages ago.

And to pay for anything privately here (which I do) is a fraction of what it would cost privately in the UK. Because in the UK they rip off the BUPA and other medical insurance companies with the hiked up cost.



In Ankara I paid zilch for a double cataract op. Now beat that. :lol: (private hospital)
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Postby Gasman » Wed Jun 30, 2010 8:09 pm

Oh it's a competition is it? Can't make it a pissing contest on account of you having a slight advantage!

Well ... in the UK I had a cholycystectomy done in a private hospital in Windsor for nothing.

The NHS had kept me waiting so long on the list for what was said to be urgent (3 yrs) that they had to pay for me to go private to meet their targets!

Love those hospitals where you can order a G&T and have your pals in all evening and order snacks for them!
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Postby denizaksulu » Wed Jun 30, 2010 8:36 pm

Gasman wrote:Oh it's a competition is it? Can't make it a pissing contest on account of you having a slight advantage!

Well ... in the UK I had a cholycystectomy done in a private hospital in Windsor for nothing.

The NHS had kept me waiting so long on the list for what was said to be urgent (3 yrs) that they had to pay for me to go private to meet their targets!

Love those hospitals where you can order a G&T and have your pals in all evening and order snacks for them!


I was in London the previous evening, and by the next evening the procedures were carried out. Not even an appointment; so there!!! :lol:
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Postby Gasman » Wed Jun 30, 2010 8:53 pm

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Postby rotate » Wed Jun 30, 2010 9:58 pm

Gasman wrote:Well ... in the UK I had a cholycystectomy done in a private hospital in Windsor for nothing.

The NHS had kept me waiting so long on the list for what was said to be urgent (3 yrs) that they had to pay for me to go private to meet their targets!


Was that The Princess Margarets Private Hospital Osbourne Rd Windsor Gasman?
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Postby IMPOSTALIEDUS » Wed Jun 30, 2010 10:09 pm

The health service in the uk is; to put it mildly shit. STORY of INDIA / 6 AM Sunday morning, dr my wife has a problem with pain in the tummy, dr reply , meet me in the hospital in 1 hour by 10 am the wife has full body scan,diagnosis gall bladder ,, needs removal ; do it now.cost 100 pounds .ME thinks no go to uk better treatment.2 months later wife is told unless you pay private you will not get the operation . back to india done 1 day later no problems ...for op and 4 days treatment 150 pounds The health service in the uk As i said is third rate . here in cyprus for as little as 100 pound you can get a scan and the results in a few hours , do not believe any thing the british government tells you about the health sevice in the uk ( it is SHIT)
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Postby Gasman » Thu Jul 01, 2010 12:16 am

Was that The Princess Margarets Private Hospital Osbourne Rd Windsor Gasman?


It certainly was! And many years before that, my eldest son had been in there having his ears opped on. I paid because I wasn't prepared to wait up to two years on the NHS for him to have them done when he had just started school and was diagnosed with increasing deafness.
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