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[DT.]

The fact that Turkish Cypriots found themselves in such a situation by 1974 is not a cause for celebration, for it was relief. Keep running away from the facts and nothing gets resolved.

So why do you celebrate it with parades, partying on the day we had most of our dead?

[Piratis]

(Have I got a hangover!!!! ?)

This from the TorontoSun

http://www.torontosun.com/entertainment ... story.html

Jennifer Lopez has withdrawn from a gig in Cyprus after critics slammed her for agreeing to the show on the 36th anniversary of the Turkish invasion of the European island.

The singer was billed to perform at the opening of new hotel complex Cratos Premium in the Turkish Cypriot part of the popular tourist destination on July 20.

But she's scrapped the show after learning it coincides with a day islanders would rather forget, insisting she would never have agreed to the concert in the first place if she knew about the history and relevance of the date.

A representative tells TMZ.com, "After a full review of the relevant circumstances in Cyprus, it was the decision of management to withdraw from the appearance. This was a team decision that reflects our sensitivity to the political realities of the region."

Previously, officials at the Cyprus Action Network of America started a campaign calling on Lopez to scrap the gig as it falls on the anniversary of the date that Turkish troops invaded the Greek-owned island in 1974.

Which islanders would that be, then? Greek islanders or Turkish islanders?
Once again showing that a lot of the worlds press knows only half the story (The Greek Cypriot half).

Silence from our friends in the South.

82% of the islanders.

So, not all the islanders, then? The point is the Toronto Sun writer of the article clearly has no idea of the reality of the island, either then or now.
Like I said, only half the story (or 82% of it).

82% is far more than "half". Every country has a minority of people who support crimes and illegalities. The behavior of such minorities however does not reflect on the population of the country as a whole.

[Piratis]

The fact that Turkish Cypriots found themselves in such a situation by 1974 is not a cause for celebration, for it was relief. Keep running away from the facts and nothing gets resolved.

The Turkish Cypriots didn't find themselves in a situetion they didn't want to be.

Turkey (with the support of TCs) created the partition plan since 1957. The inter-communal conflict and the war of 74 were both initiated by the Turks and TCs in their effort to create an excuse for partition.

[AWE]

great work by the GC lobby now how are you going to convince the TCs that you mean them no harm?

[Acikgoz]

GR, it's a public holiday. We don't go around thinking we won a war or kicked butts etc., that's just not what it's about for us, we are just happy to be finally living without the oppression from 1963 and our worst fears of being erased from the island were not realised.
The cancelling of the concert was a reminder for us of the desire by GCs to oppress. I'll admit, I hadn't even noticed the date of the concert being on July 20th and I would understand the sensitivities around that or the political message it could imply. However, would it likely have been any different if it had been on July 31st? Me thinks not.
I haven't seen a parade for years.

[Acikgoz]

The fact that Turkish Cypriots found themselves in such a situation by 1974 is not a cause for celebration, for it was relief. Keep running away from the facts and nothing gets resolved.

The Turkish Cypriots didn't find themselves in a situetion they didn't want to be.

Turkey (with the support of TCs) created the partition plan since 1957. The inter-communal conflict and the war of 74 were both initiated by the Turks and TCs in their effort to create an excuse for partition.

Go tell that to someone that doesn't know any better. The average TC person knew what was being done to them by the GC militias. Stop peddling your conspiracy wares elsewhere, if there was no Akritas, there would not have been any reason to divide the island.

Back then you wouldn't live with us as equals, and 47 years on, nothing has changed.

[DT.]

GR, it's a public holiday. We don't go around thinking we won a war or kicked butts etc., that's just not what it's about for us, we are just happy to be finally living without the oppression from 1963 and our worst fears of being erased from the island were not realised.
The cancelling of the concert was a reminder for us of the desire by GCs to oppress. I'll admit, I hadn't even noticed the date of the concert being on July 20th and I would understand the sensitivities around that or the political message it could imply. However, would it likely have been any different if it had been on July 31st? Me thinks not.
I haven't seen a parade for years.

firstly its not GR its DT.
Secondly would you like me to post pictures of last years "peace day" parade and turkish fly by's accompanied by fireworks? Funny way to mark the day this side had 1000's of casualties and 200,000 lost their homes.

[Acikgoz]

Oh DT then, really pretty much interchangeable without the occasional humour GR comes up with.

What do they do in the US on the 4th of July Independence Day?

Big picture, lives and properties lost, refugees made ON BOTH SIDES. WHY DO YOU INSIST ON NOT STATING THAT ALSO. Don't ignore that we were displaced too! That is why it's not a celebration in the way you would like to believe it is for us, the way of life we knew in the 50s was lost in the 60s, the 70s simply meant we could move on without oppression - hah guess you showed us eh.

[Piratis]

The fact that Turkish Cypriots found themselves in such a situation by 1974 is not a cause for celebration, for it was relief. Keep running away from the facts and nothing gets resolved.

The Turkish Cypriots didn't find themselves in a situetion they didn't want to be.

Turkey (with the support of TCs) created the partition plan since 1957. The inter-communal conflict and the war of 74 were both initiated by the Turks and TCs in their effort to create an excuse for partition.

Go tell that to someone that doesn't know any better. The average TC person knew what was being done to them by the GC militias. Stop peddling your conspiracy wares elsewhere, if there was no Akritas, there would not have been any reason to divide the island.

Back then you wouldn't live with us as equals, and 47 years on, nothing has changed.

Really? The so called "Akritas Plan" was written in 1963 (and there is nothing against the human rights of TCs in it). However your partition plan was created in 1957 and you initiated the inter communal conflict in 1958.

I wrote all the details here:
http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=30000

So stop repeating the lies you have been brainwashed with and start looking at the facts and the sequence of events. Partition was a Turkish aim since the 50s before any "Akritas Plan" and before any inter-communal conflict. In fact Turkey and TCs initiated the inter-communal conflict in order to create the excuse for the partition of Cyprus.

[Acikgoz]

Oh so it had nothing to do with Makarios's 13 points then, unconstitutional changes to the constitution of all Cypriots. The banning of goods for use by Turkish Cypriots that were not ever a threat. The loans granted for development which were freely handed to GC businesses of which TC businesses could hardly access.....

Someone had a contingency plan then and did everything to implement it - go pull the other leg. If GC powers that be wanted to live in peace with TCs they could have. Denial of responsibilities is not an argument that you can use to justify the actions of GCs in the partition of the island however frequently you wish to apportion all the blame on Turkey and TCs.