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Postby DT. » Mon Jul 05, 2010 9:42 am

vaughanwilliams wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:Fellow Forumers, below is the text of a letter from the Displaced Mothers of Cyprus to Mrs Lopez... a woman to woman letter....



CYPRUS’ MOVEMENT OF REFUGEES & DISPLACED MOTHERS
for the restitution, conferment and respect of their fundamental human rights and their children’s
ΚΙΝΗΣΗ ΠΡΟΣΦΥΓΩΝ & ΕΚΤΟΠΙΣΜΕΝΩΝ ΜΑΝΑΔΩΝ
για την πλήρη αποκατάσταση, διασφάλιση και σεβασμό των βασικών ανθρωπίνων δικαιωμάτων αυτών και των παιδιών τους
P.O.Box 27540 – 2430 Eghomi – Nicosia, Cyprus Tel: +357 99419317 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting              +357 99419317      end_of_the_skype_highlighting begin_of_the_skype_highlighting              +357 99419317      end_of_the_skype_highlighting, +357 22667333, Fax: +357 22673074 email: [email protected] Registration No.: 2907
OF UTMOST IMPORTANCE
July 2, 2010
Mrs. Cara Lewis William Morris Agency , LLC. 1325 Avenue of the Americas New York , NY Fax: 212-903-1531 E-Mail: [email protected]
ATTENTION OF: MRS. JENNIFER LYNN LOPEZ (born July 24, 1969)

Dear Mrs. Lopez,
I write to you as the President of the Displaced Mothers of Cyprus, as a woman and as a mother above all. From this part of the world we have been watching and admiring your successful career, but also your amazing strength in raising your children and determination in offering them the right values in life.
However, we were really saddened and shocked when we heard that you will visit the occupied by the Turkish troops area of the Republic of Cyprus and take part in the celebrations for the anniversary of the unlawful invasion of Turkey to our country which has deprived us of our homes and of our basic human rights within our own country. Since July 20th, 1974, when Turkey invaded our island, one third of the population of the island of Cyprus that is 200,000 people - probably the largest proportion of Internally Displaced Persons/Refugees in a single country – have been forcibly expelled from their homes and 37% of the sovereign territory of the Republic of Cyprus has come under Turkish military occupation. Ever since the massive displacement, Greek Cypriots have been prevented from returning to their homes and properties against all United Nations’ Resolutions and all Decisions of the European Court of Human Rights condemning Turkey for its unlawful presence on the island.
The displaced people, who in effect became refugees in their own country, suffered not only the loss of their properties and belongings, but also the loss of their beloved ones, some of whom are still missing with Turkey denying to report on their fates. Members of our movement, who were teenagers at the time, were raped by Turkish soldiers and were captured as prisoners of war - the rest of us were raped psychologically and still suffer.
Turkey has uprooted our childhood and our dreams, yet we do not lose our faith. We now have our own families and children and struggle to raise them with our limited means away from our homes. BUT WE DO NOT FORGET the TRAGEDY of the 20th of July 1974.
Page 1
On your website you say that “I, myself, am Catholic,” (Lopez told Southern Florida’s NBC 6); we would like to inform you that this past June His Holiness Pope Benedict the 16th visited the Republic of Cyprus, but refused to visit the occupied by the Turkish troops areas ignoring an “official” invitation to do so. This should say a lot about what this “state” represents to Christianity and humanity. As Christians ourselves, and as women who have suffered by the atrocities of Turkey, we urge you not to make this trip to Cyprus and not to take part in these celebrations. The fact that you are a world-famous celebrity makes this “birthday party” a very well-camouflaged trap on behalf of Turkey, the consequences of which will have a direct negative impact on my country and us, as the Turkish propaganda is using you in an attempt to purchase a false “normalcy” and false “legitimacy” for the bandit pseudo-state that is recognized by no-one but Turkey.
WHEN YOU MAKE YOUR DECISION, PLEASE HAVE IN MIND THAT:
• On July 20th 1974 Turkey invaded and is still occupying a part of Cyprus, and hence Europe itself, • Turkey perpetrated ethnic cleansing and war crimes against Greek Cypriots, • We, the Internally Displaced Mothers and Refugees demand RESTORATION OF OUR HUMAN RIGHTS
AND A SAFE RETURN TO OUR HOMES AND PROPERTIES,
• We demand the determination of the fate and whereabouts of the missing persons and the accountability of Turkey.
These facts are the truth which is often so tactfully omitted in discussions about Cyprus and ignored by the World Leaders who present themselves as the Protectors of Human Rights. As a woman, a mother and a Christian yourself we ask you to respect our sufferings and not celebrate your birthday along with the looters of our history, of our past, of our present and of our future. We count on your sensitivity against the violation of human rights throughout the world and we would like to ask for your active support in our fight against imperialism and in our efforts to restore our human rights, the same way you actively fought to raise awareness about the Mexican women murdered in Ciudad Juarez and Chihuahua. I am personally willing to provide all the information you might need in an objective manner and co-operate with you in every possible way in order to inform the world about these unpunished crimes held in Cyprus since 1974. We trust you will make the right decision.
I am looking forward to your reply.
Yours sincerely,
Markella Isaia-Chakka President


Sorry.
To say it was illegal is subjective, not objective. Turkey "invaded" within its rights as a guarantor power. Once you start out with the wrong premise, it may allow credibility where there is none.


show me where on the treaty of guarantee turkey is allowed to invade and occupy a part of the island?
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Postby denizaksulu » Mon Jul 05, 2010 9:49 am

DT. wrote:
vaughanwilliams wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:Fellow Forumers, below is the text of a letter from the Displaced Mothers of Cyprus to Mrs Lopez... a woman to woman letter....



CYPRUS’ MOVEMENT OF REFUGEES & DISPLACED MOTHERS
for the restitution, conferment and respect of their fundamental human rights and their children’s
ΚΙΝΗΣΗ ΠΡΟΣΦΥΓΩΝ & ΕΚΤΟΠΙΣΜΕΝΩΝ ΜΑΝΑΔΩΝ
για την πλήρη αποκατάσταση, διασφάλιση και σεβασμό των βασικών ανθρωπίνων δικαιωμάτων αυτών και των παιδιών τους
P.O.Box 27540 – 2430 Eghomi – Nicosia, Cyprus Tel: +357 99419317 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting              +357 99419317      end_of_the_skype_highlighting begin_of_the_skype_highlighting              +357 99419317      end_of_the_skype_highlighting, +357 22667333, Fax: +357 22673074 email: [email protected] Registration No.: 2907
OF UTMOST IMPORTANCE
July 2, 2010
Mrs. Cara Lewis William Morris Agency , LLC. 1325 Avenue of the Americas New York , NY Fax: 212-903-1531 E-Mail: [email protected]
ATTENTION OF: MRS. JENNIFER LYNN LOPEZ (born July 24, 1969)

Dear Mrs. Lopez,
I write to you as the President of the Displaced Mothers of Cyprus, as a woman and as a mother above all. From this part of the world we have been watching and admiring your successful career, but also your amazing strength in raising your children and determination in offering them the right values in life.
However, we were really saddened and shocked when we heard that you will visit the occupied by the Turkish troops area of the Republic of Cyprus and take part in the celebrations for the anniversary of the unlawful invasion of Turkey to our country which has deprived us of our homes and of our basic human rights within our own country. Since July 20th, 1974, when Turkey invaded our island, one third of the population of the island of Cyprus that is 200,000 people - probably the largest proportion of Internally Displaced Persons/Refugees in a single country – have been forcibly expelled from their homes and 37% of the sovereign territory of the Republic of Cyprus has come under Turkish military occupation. Ever since the massive displacement, Greek Cypriots have been prevented from returning to their homes and properties against all United Nations’ Resolutions and all Decisions of the European Court of Human Rights condemning Turkey for its unlawful presence on the island.
The displaced people, who in effect became refugees in their own country, suffered not only the loss of their properties and belongings, but also the loss of their beloved ones, some of whom are still missing with Turkey denying to report on their fates. Members of our movement, who were teenagers at the time, were raped by Turkish soldiers and were captured as prisoners of war - the rest of us were raped psychologically and still suffer.
Turkey has uprooted our childhood and our dreams, yet we do not lose our faith. We now have our own families and children and struggle to raise them with our limited means away from our homes. BUT WE DO NOT FORGET the TRAGEDY of the 20th of July 1974.
Page 1
On your website you say that “I, myself, am Catholic,” (Lopez told Southern Florida’s NBC 6); we would like to inform you that this past June His Holiness Pope Benedict the 16th visited the Republic of Cyprus, but refused to visit the occupied by the Turkish troops areas ignoring an “official” invitation to do so. This should say a lot about what this “state” represents to Christianity and humanity. As Christians ourselves, and as women who have suffered by the atrocities of Turkey, we urge you not to make this trip to Cyprus and not to take part in these celebrations. The fact that you are a world-famous celebrity makes this “birthday party” a very well-camouflaged trap on behalf of Turkey, the consequences of which will have a direct negative impact on my country and us, as the Turkish propaganda is using you in an attempt to purchase a false “normalcy” and false “legitimacy” for the bandit pseudo-state that is recognized by no-one but Turkey.
WHEN YOU MAKE YOUR DECISION, PLEASE HAVE IN MIND THAT:
• On July 20th 1974 Turkey invaded and is still occupying a part of Cyprus, and hence Europe itself, • Turkey perpetrated ethnic cleansing and war crimes against Greek Cypriots, • We, the Internally Displaced Mothers and Refugees demand RESTORATION OF OUR HUMAN RIGHTS
AND A SAFE RETURN TO OUR HOMES AND PROPERTIES,
• We demand the determination of the fate and whereabouts of the missing persons and the accountability of Turkey.
These facts are the truth which is often so tactfully omitted in discussions about Cyprus and ignored by the World Leaders who present themselves as the Protectors of Human Rights. As a woman, a mother and a Christian yourself we ask you to respect our sufferings and not celebrate your birthday along with the looters of our history, of our past, of our present and of our future. We count on your sensitivity against the violation of human rights throughout the world and we would like to ask for your active support in our fight against imperialism and in our efforts to restore our human rights, the same way you actively fought to raise awareness about the Mexican women murdered in Ciudad Juarez and Chihuahua. I am personally willing to provide all the information you might need in an objective manner and co-operate with you in every possible way in order to inform the world about these unpunished crimes held in Cyprus since 1974. We trust you will make the right decision.
I am looking forward to your reply.
Yours sincerely,
Markella Isaia-Chakka President


Sorry.
To say it was illegal is subjective, not objective. Turkey "invaded" within its rights as a guarantor power. Once you start out with the wrong premise, it may allow credibility where there is none.


show me where on the treaty of guarantee turkey is allowed to invade and occupy a part of the island?


I dont think that VW is some some of a conjurer DT. You expect too much. :lol: :lol:
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Postby bill cobbett » Mon Jul 05, 2010 2:42 pm

Here's a vid for our resident music-loving supporter of Partition and Ethnic Cleansing VP, ... oh and also dedicated to VP's BumChums VW and Halil...

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Postby Malapapa » Mon Jul 05, 2010 3:06 pm

vaughanwilliams wrote:Sorry.
To say it was illegal is subjective, not objective. Turkey "invaded" within its rights as a guarantor power. Once you start out with the wrong premise, it may allow credibility where there is none.


You did a bad and stupid thing, giving your money to crooks in exchange for being allowed to trespass on other people's land.

No amount of wriggling can mitigate your misdemeanour, excuse your foolishness, or ease your conscience. You will pay for what you've done, in this life or the next.
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Postby -mikkie2- » Mon Jul 05, 2010 3:32 pm

We should be more worried about solving the cyprus problem than worrying if J Lo's visit to Cyprus constitutes recognition of the north. Perhaps if G Papa visited the north that would give the kick up the arse for our politicians to get their heads out of their arses and get serious before its too late!
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Postby bill cobbett » Mon Jul 05, 2010 5:14 pm

Reh VP.... Here's a link for you... a credible link... in the finest CF tradition... a named source...

Jennifer Lopez criticised over Cyprus gig

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/ju ... cyprus-gig


:D :D :D :D :D :D
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Postby Gasman » Mon Jul 05, 2010 5:24 pm

I'm sure any 'good' publicity this appearance would have generated for the 'TRNC' will be outweighed by the bad publicity when the Orams are featured on ITV Homes from Hell this week.
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Postby bill cobbett » Mon Jul 05, 2010 5:32 pm

Gasman wrote:I'm sure any 'good' publicity this appearance would have generated for the 'TRNC' will be outweighed by the bad publicity when the Orams are featured on ITV Homes from Hell this week.


Oh dear. is this a repeat of the one we saw about a year ago? perhaps an update.

Have heard by the way that the O's have started making over huge sums of money to Mr Apostolides.
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Postby Gasman » Mon Jul 05, 2010 5:38 pm

Have heard by the way that the O's have started making over huge sums of money to Mr Apostolides.


Any chance of a link? Doesn't have to be 'credible' lol!
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Postby bill cobbett » Mon Jul 05, 2010 5:42 pm

Gasman wrote:
Have heard by the way that the O's have started making over huge sums of money to Mr Apostolides.


Any chance of a link? Doesn't have to be 'credible' lol!


Well it's a link but fear not a credible one, think i saw a ref to it on CY4+4+1=0.
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