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[Viewpoint]

Obviously you do not know what is unfolding in the TRNC soon we will be able to stand on our own two feet due economic stream lining plus the gc leader will soon walk out.

[Kikapu]

Obviously you do not know what is unfolding in the TRNC soon we will be able to stand on our own two feet due economic stream lining plus the gc leader will soon walk out.

Don't forget to keep your fingers cross at all times.!:idea:

Who knows, you might just get lucky.!

[georgios100]

Guys... Guys,

Stop blaming Christofias, Talat, Eroglu etc... all politicians, from both sides are useless & gutless to negotiate a settlement - end of story.

We need outside help which is not coming any time soon. Why?

Because Cyprob is small potatoes, lasted way too long & the big powers had enough of us. They have better things to do than deal with Cyprob.

No solution expected by the end of 2010 as far as I can tell.

Go about your business & forget this.

[Viewpoint]

İ agree

[humanist]

kikapu

Don't forget what the UN and the USA expects. UNIFICATION and not a 2 independent states . Come to think of it, neither does Turkey, because 2 separate states means that Turkey is out of the EU as well as the north. I know you would welcome such an option, but Turkey pays the bills in the north, therefore you do what Turkey tells you, that's all.!

am afraid the UN and US don't give a hoot about what solution Cyprus gets in the end. They would have taken similar action to Iraq and Afghanistan if they did.

[repulsewarrior]

I am not sure why such bad sentiment towards Christofias, I think he has tried more than any other Cypriot president for a solution. The TC's screwed up by voting someone who is going to take them and the whole of Cyprus 50 years backwards with his unreasonable statements and demand.

We also know that unless the British are ready to solve the Cypro, it will not be solved.

He needs to mount pressure on the UN to recognise that Cyprus is under Turkish occupation, that the TC's have every right to join the Cypriot society and have equal rights as any other Cypriot. Therefore pressure needs to go to Turkey to remove its occupation troops and those TC's who do not wish to join the Cypriot society have the right to immigrate to Turkey as a primary country or elsewhere, where they can fine a home. To this end he has been silent. he also needs to pressure the EU not to make any allowance for the recognition or promotion of the trnc and that the economic embargoes need to remain in place because of the violation of human rights to Cypriot people.

Christofias had 5 years with Talat, if he couldnt solve it in that time he can never solve it, thats why he was wasting our time so we gave him Eroğlu to waste his time, a bit of his own medicine.

36 years of "pressure" and no result time to change the tune and realize that a BBF with politicla equality is the only way forward. The end of these empty talks will end with nothing but an understanding that their is now no "Cypriot" solution for "Cypriots" and that the current situation can only be used to relax the isolation on the North, get ready for changes that will have you begging for the return of the AP.

...bravo viewpoint! you are beginning to see that the solution is not "Greek" or "Turkish", and their "redlines"; it is a question of Cypriots giving them, (the interlocutors) a lesson they can emulate. quite framkly, a BBF would work in Iraq, as well as Turkey, but somehow we stall on the notion that we are as well as Individuals, Persons.

...something new indeed; count them three (my manifesto #2), is a BBF that meets this challenge. none of the discussions so far make it clear that there will be a Greek constituent, a Turkish constituent, and a federal government. bizonal like a bicycle may have two wheels, however there are many parts attached to each, and none of the many parts work without all parts acting as a whole.

...its Turkey who will speak last in any case, what we are expecting is for Turkey to speak first; much depends on the will of its Statesman for a recognition that is held in high esteem Internationally. an effort to find a solution that meets an evolution in Humanity's political thinking is not reasonably refused, and it is the task we have committed ourselves to as Cypriots.

...so far i am not impressed by eroglu, he is pissing off ki moon, and others with the way he defines terms (as an internal communication to his electorate), and sooner or later he'll go too far. also, let's not forget that he is the Army's man, not erdogan's who is frying bigger fish than Cyprus when it comes to his country's external affairs, that too will play a role when it comes to securing public support in Turkey.

...if eroglu expects a solution by the end of the year, i suggest that this can only happen with an end to any idea of two mutually exclusive states without a federal government that provides a criteria that defends Individual Rights equally for both.

...however, vp you're still cynical and bitter, this does not suit our cause as Cypriots, some might be "begging" for the AP if things get worse, however the truth is all Cypriots suffer unless Cyprus is Cyprus, not "Greek" or "Turkish" land, but a country that is able because it can sustain more than one National identity while it is Sovereign as a State.

[vaughanwilliams]

Guys... Guys,

Stop blaming Christofias, Talat, Eroglu etc... all politicians, from both sides are useless & gutless to negotiate a settlement - end of story.

We need outside help which is not coming any time soon. Why?

Because Cyprob is small potatoes, lasted way too long & the big powers had enough of us. They have better things to do than deal with Cyprob.

No solution expected by the end of 2010 as far as I can tell.

Go about your business & forget this.

Just seen Mehmet Shimshek (TR Finance Minister) interviewed by Stephen Sakur on BBC TVs "Hardtalk" this morning.
Just about everything relevant to Turkey/Israel/Iran/EU/US was discussed and in some depth.
Only thing not even mentioned?
No prizes for guessing.

[Get Real!]

Obviously you do not know what is unfolding in the TRNC soon we will be able to stand on our own two feet due economic stream lining...

Unfolding or folding?

http://www.cyprus-mail.com/cyprus/econo ... h/20100704

[Viewpoint]

The Bitter pill of economical reform shall be taken, this will help us stand on our own 2 feet and be economically independent of Turkey.

[repulsewarrior]

lol, vp; woof woof, again.