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Turkish Cypriot leader wants Cyprus settlement this year

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby Gasman » Tue Jun 29, 2010 2:09 pm

Yeah ... but ... Paphitis ... that's what they said last time and no one FORCED them to vote for him did they?

I was living in Limassol during that time. I've said this before - GC pals of mine VOWED they would leave their beloved Cyprus forever if he won.

They are all still here.
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Postby Gasman » Tue Jun 29, 2010 2:12 pm

Piratis, speaking to VP at the time:

VP, the Cyprus problem exists because the turks occupy our country (and obviously we can not love them for that).
If you were hoping that we will elect somebody that will sign off part of our country to you, then I am sorry to disappoint you but it will not happen.


But it did. He was voted in. So, however much some may think they are experts on the Cyprob and on Cyprus in general.

They are obviously NOT experts on what the average Cypriot has going on in their head.

They got it wrong.

And you cannot blame 'imported mainlander Turk votes' for skewing the results of the RoC elections can you?
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Postby Paphitis » Tue Jun 29, 2010 2:13 pm

Gasman wrote:Yeah ... but ... Paphitis ... that's what they said last time and no one FORCED them to vote for him did they?

I was living in Limassol during that time. I've said this before - GC pals of mine VOWED they would leave their beloved Cyprus forever if he won.

They are all still here.


I think Cypriots have learnt their lesson.

Even if we put the Cyprus Problem to one side, AKEL was a party that has always criticised all other parties and their capitalist, free market and "anti social" policies, and then, when they win office, they introduce a massive fuel and diesel levy/tax!

Most people I speak to are really pissed.

Next election, Christofias will want to step down! There will be a landslide against him and AKEL.
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Postby DT. » Tue Jun 29, 2010 2:24 pm

Gasman wrote:Yeah ... but ... Paphitis ... that's what they said last time and no one FORCED them to vote for him did they?

I was living in Limassol during that time. I've said this before - GC pals of mine VOWED they would leave their beloved Cyprus forever if he won.

They are all still here.


This just says to me you've got big mouth liars as friends. What does it have to do with Cyprus?
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Postby Paphitis » Tue Jun 29, 2010 2:27 pm

DT. wrote:
Gasman wrote:Yeah ... but ... Paphitis ... that's what they said last time and no one FORCED them to vote for him did they?

I was living in Limassol during that time. I've said this before - GC pals of mine VOWED they would leave their beloved Cyprus forever if he won.

They are all still here.


This just says to me you've got big mouth liars as friends. What does it have to do with Cyprus?


When Krudface won the elections, some Aussies also vowed to leave the country.

We just knew this idiot was going to be a disaster. Now, we have Australia's first lesbian PM (and her hairy bush pig brigade)!

Liberals back in office by August! :D
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Postby Oracle » Tue Jun 29, 2010 3:19 pm

Eroglu said the toughest issues are property rights, territory and security guarantees, stressing that people should not be uprooted from their homes again.


So, it's OK for the Turks to "uproot" GCs? Seems the guy needs a reality check on morals and operational justice!
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At the end of the day.....

Postby cymart » Tue Jun 29, 2010 6:03 pm

Here we all are again,saying more or less the same as we did at this time last year!Nothing has improved-if anything it has got worse and we seem to be getting further and further away from a solution,rather than closer to one?But I also think that the writing is on the wall and the end game is approaching,one way or another within the coming months...either there will be a compromise which some people on each side will not like and shout that its a sellout etc,just as they always do,or there will be an undeclared acceptance of partition,the north will be allowed to open its airports and ports,Turkey will do the same for the G.C's and maybe the closed area of Varosha will be returned as a sweetener.The world will get on with worrying about myriad other problems and Christophias will effectively be finished with the economy here down the tube!Mind you,being the crafty Communist he is,him and AKEL will use every ploy to try to hold onto power,knowing they will never be elected again once they lose it!
As for myself,I have been thinking for some time that there are other nice countries with a warm climate where I could feasibly contemplate going to live and probably for less than I need here.The biggest bonus is that I will escape from all the politicians here and their lies and crap and also be away from the Russian mafia who now control a large portion of the Cyprus banks deposits(around 19 billion euros apparently!)Before I leave though there is one thing I want to do and that is to go and take a look at what is left of our former house in Varosha and take some photos,just for memories sake.I doubt if it worth applying for permission as I have heard that the Turkish Army never give it,especially to private individuals.The nearest point along the fence to it is about 10 minutes walk away and as it is in a quiet area I suppose there is a reasonable chance I could get in and out without being caught,especially if I choose the right time of day and have someone with me.Of course if the place was controlled by reasonable people they would have allowed me in anyway under the circumstances and I would even have been prepared to pay something for their trouble but as we know,this country is a lunatic asylum where most people live in self-denial when it comes to reality!
I also fully agree that many G.C.'s are thoroughly fed-up with the situation here,particularly with the way the economy is going and have lost confidence in everything,the government in particular!!
Sorry to sound so pessimistic but after 36 years of trying to be optimistic and hoping for miracles,I am about to give up.
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Postby humanist » Tue Jun 29, 2010 9:48 pm

Paphitis, I don't know if Downer is aware if it and that is precisely whom am very weary of. I don't trust the fascist man ;)
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Postby humanist » Tue Jun 29, 2010 9:56 pm

Oracles, I think your onto it.

But if property rights, sovereignty and security guarantees are tough topics firstly he contradicts Turkey's recent statement of a dimilitarised Cyprus and secondly if he thinks those are hard topics how is he going to find a solution in six months if he don't agree with GC's we know where we stand and we are not on a time line. We know and the UN knows we have Turkey occupying our Country and abusing our human rights and the TC's are the ones who have invited them there and aren't telling them to go.

So in essence what Eroglu is saying the needs of 35,000 TC's and 250,000 settlers and some 15,000 British carpetbaggers are more important than those of nearly a million people. I think the UN needs to look at the situation and become more active in a resolution. We have today in Cyprus at 150,000 GC refugees denied access to their homes o that 35,000 TC's can be housed. Not saying that the housing issue is a real issue for those TC's occupying GC homes. As said before the RoC needs to create a register of thse GC's not wanting to return so some negotiation with their homes can be reached. And that is if you have no intention of returning the house and house alone should go to the occupant TC family and reasonable compensation should be given
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Postby Gasman » Tue Jun 29, 2010 10:34 pm

This just says to me you've got big mouth liars as friends.


I couldn't possibly comment on that statement. They are all Greek Cypriots.
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