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by **insan** » Sat Jul 10, 2004 5:24 pm

http://www.greece.org/cyprus/Takism4.htm

The best I've ever read and I assume the only Greek source that put a light on Cyprus issue impartialy... At least that's my impression...

A must read especially for all TCs and perhaps GCs...

"As regards Gunes, Turkish negotiator, the demand was non-negotiable. Turkey then launched a second invasion on 14 August 1974, this time conquering 37% of the territory of the Republic of Cyprus. By then the Sampson regime had fallen, as had the Greek Junta. Following this second offensive begun on 14 August, Greek-Cypriot retaliatory killings began against the Turks after the ethnic cleansing of Greek Cypriots from their homes had occurred, and the majority of the human rights violations were becoming known. In the village of Tokni, 69 Turkish Cypriots were murdered and later found in a mass grave. In Aloa, 57 Turkish Cypriots were killed, while in Maratha a further 88 corpses were discovered in a mass grave."

I've never read any articles by Greek sources that refer TC mass murders in 1974....

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by **Piratis** » Sat Jul 10, 2004 8:42 pm

Your numbers are so small. How do those compare with about 6.000 dead, over 1600 missing (maybe dead also), and 200,000 refugees?

As I said before, Turks caused to us during the history since the Ottoman empire until today a much much greater harm than what Greeks caused to Turks.

by **metecyp** » Sun Jul 11, 2004 12:38 am

As I said before, Turks caused to us during the history since the Ottoman empire until today a much much greater harm than what Greeks caused to Turks.

Useless discussion. It doesn't matter who caused how much sufferring. What matters is the fact that innocent people on both sides suffered the most because of the stupidity of politicians. Besides 200.000 refugees is 1/3 of GC population and 1/3 of TCs also became refugees in 1974. I'm not trying to belittle GC sufferring but the point is both sides (and especially innocent people) sufferred a lot and that's what we should remember and try to avoid in the future.

by **Piratis** » Sun Jul 11, 2004 1:14 am

Useless discussion. It doesn't matter who caused how much sufferring.

I agree, but I had to reply :wink:

by **metecyp** » Sun Jul 11, 2004 2:38 am

I agree, but I had to reply

So you just reply to posts for the sake of replying? No wonder most discussions with you end up with no conclusions. That's a problem that I have with online discussion forums. It's great that it provides a way of communication, but at the same time, hardly any problem gets resolved because most people simply don't even care to discuss in a proper manner and they just reply for the sake of replying.

by **insan** » Sun Jul 11, 2004 10:14 am

I've just post that link here for all of you to read and get a different perspective over Cyprus issue which impressed me positively and made me think that it's impartial... Moreover I've never seen any unbiased Greek originated web site regarding Cyprus issue before...

The fact is that there are two unbiased web-sites regarding Cyprus issue... One is run by a GC Papadikkis and the other one by some Greeks...

It's sad to see there's no just a single unbiased TC or a Turkish site regarding Cyprus issue...

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by **Piratis** » Sun Jul 11, 2004 4:03 pm

So you just reply to posts for the sake of replying?

I am replying to posts to give answers or to make things clear. I never start threads just to blame others, and I believe such discussions are useless. But if others start such discussions then what they claim can not go without an answer.

Probably insan's motive was different in this particular thread, but if it was left like that it could give the wrong impression.

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