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[Cap]

...popcorn again?

Too much salt.

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European Parliament

WE WILL NOT FORGET OR LET FORGET THE DERSĐM GENOCIDE!!

It’s the 70th anniversary of the Dersim Genocide. Although 70 years have passed since the genocide by the Turkish Government in Dersim in 1937-38, this massacre has never been forgotten nor will it be forgotten as the culprits have not been brought out into light.

Dersim massacre started with the Turkish Republic regime presenting Dersim as a target by stating “Dersim is a ‘Pandora’s Box’”. First by means that aren’t very common the name of Dersim was changed to ‘Tunceli in 1935. In order to carry out this massacre, the Council of Ministers came together in Ankara on 4 May 1937 and formed ‘Tunceli Questioning Operation’ Council of Ministers and signed the half a page
document classed as “Top Secret” which was the order for the Dersim massacre.

According to the official figures 12 thousand people were massacred in the Dersim Genocide. According to the people of Dersim 70 thousand people were massacred. After this atrocious act thousand of people were banished from their homeland.

On 16 November 1937, Seyit Riza who was one of the Kurdish leaders and seven of his comrades were hanged in Elazığ. Despite all attempts by the families, the grave sites of Seyit Riza and his comrades still haven’t been disclosed.

Dersim Genocide is not the only genocide the Republican Turkey has committed towards Kurds and Alevis. During the reign of the Ottoman emperor Ahmet I. between 9 December 1606 and 5 August1611, the “fire wells” of ‘Murat Pasha the Well digger’ who had murdered almost 100 thousand Kurdish Kizilbash Alevis, are still remembered by many. The problem Yavuz Sultan Selim couldn’t solve in 1514 by murdering 40 thousand people by sword was attempted to be solved during 1935-
1938 in Dersim once again by a massacre.

The 1938 tragedy has not only left behind the dead, the wounded and banishments, it has left behind a depopulated region whose name and all presence has been banned. The Dersim Kurds has faced a
planned, systematic genocide and an extremely cruel assimilation process because of their; identity, language, culture and religious beliefs.
The “one language and one nation” policy of the Republic of Turkey that continues in today’s society as been the source of serious massacres first in Kocgiri, then at Seyh Said Revolt, at Zilan and at Dersim.

During the Dersim Genocide the Turkish government has massacred thousands of people, those who survived were banished, Dersim was depopulated. The cause of these merciless acts was being Kurdish, Alevi and Kizilbash. Although 70 years have passed, Turkey is not willing to acknowledge this Genocide like many other Kurdish Genocides. Those responsible for the deaths of thousands of people have never been tried nor have they been brought out into light. The broken families could never discover their past. Thousands of people still haven’t received news from their families and close friends. The whereabouts of the Kurdish children taken by the Turkish Government at the time ...

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European Parliament

WE WILL NOT FORGET OR LET FORGET THE DERSĐM GENOCIDE!!

It’s the 70th anniversary of the Dersim Genocide. Although 70 years have passed since the genocide by the Turkish Government in Dersim in 1937-38, this massacre has never been forgotten nor will it be forgotten as the culprits have not been brought out into light.

Dersim massacre started with the Turkish Republic regime presenting Dersim as a target by stating “Dersim is a ‘Pandora’s Box’”. First by means that aren’t very common the name of Dersim was changed to ‘Tunceli in 1935. In order to carry out this massacre, the Council of Ministers came together in Ankara on 4 May 1937 and formed ‘Tunceli Questioning Operation’ Council of Ministers and signed the half a page
document classed as “Top Secret” which was the order for the Dersim massacre.

According to the official figures 12 thousand people were massacred in the Dersim Genocide. According to the people of Dersim 70 thousand people were massacred. After this atrocious act thousand of people were banished from their homeland.

On 16 November 1937, Seyit Riza who was one of the Kurdish leaders and seven of his comrades were hanged in Elazığ. Despite all attempts by the families, the grave sites of Seyit Riza and his comrades still haven’t been disclosed.

Dersim Genocide is not the only genocide the Republican Turkey has committed towards Kurds and Alevis. During the reign of the Ottoman emperor Ahmet I. between 9 December 1606 and 5 August1611, the “fire wells” of ‘Murat Pasha the Well digger’ who had murdered almost 100 thousand Kurdish Kizilbash Alevis, are still remembered by many. The problem Yavuz Sultan Selim couldn’t solve in 1514 by murdering 40 thousand people by sword was attempted to be solved during 1935-
1938 in Dersim once again by a massacre.

The 1938 tragedy has not only left behind the dead, the wounded and banishments, it has left behind a depopulated region whose name and all presence has been banned. The Dersim Kurds has faced a
planned, systematic genocide and an extremely cruel assimilation process because of their; identity, language, culture and religious beliefs.
The “one language and one nation” policy of the Republic of Turkey that continues in today’s society as been the source of serious massacres first in Kocgiri, then at Seyh Said Revolt, at Zilan and at Dersim.

During the Dersim Genocide the Turkish government has massacred thousands of people, those who survived were banished, Dersim was depopulated. The cause of these merciless acts was being Kurdish, Alevi and Kizilbash. Although 70 years have passed, Turkey is not willing to acknowledge this Genocide like many other Kurdish Genocides. Those responsible for the deaths of thousands of people have never been tried nor have they been brought out into light. The broken families could never discover their past. Thousands of people still haven’t received news from their families and close friends. The whereabouts of the Kurdish children taken by the Turkish Government at the time ...

People from Dersim/Tunceli hate you O.

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Turds claim their property in Crete

What's this Greek shit doing in the CyProb???

[EPSILON]

Monday, 21 June 2010
Turks claim their property in Crete

Dozens of Turks in Crete looking for the fortunes of their ancestors and how to claim. In recent months, Iraklion, Chania and Rethymno, and in other legal areas occurred mainly representatives, exploring the ability to record, first, the assets had Turkish Cretans grandparents, through contracts that were the state archives of the Turkish government, until 1898.

It says even the local newspaper, in some cases it seems that the search has come up in the archives of the Greek Foreign Ministry.

Impressive is the fact that the descendants of those who departed from the island before a century, or the exchange of populations after the Asia Minor catastrophe, knowing exactly where to find traces of ancestral property, which means that their research not starting until now, nor that it is only for historical reasons.

It is well equipped with search and data files then a translation bureau, which were all Turkish archives and acts made by the Ottomans.

Indeed, there are cases where the investigations concern even in areas where currently operating public buildings.

Representatives from Turkey "stakeholders" are clear, however, that it would not challenge the ownership of those assets will appreciate that legally transferred to the next owners. But surely this will happen as they, through their legal advisers, Turks and Greeks believe that they are legally transferred.

The investigation has been launched at all, almost all the local authorities in Crete, which those believing that there is any evidence that might lead them to establish property rights, which they intend to pursue even at international courts.

In the official census was done in 1881 by the Ottomans in Crete was 72,353, of whom about 33,000 are living in Iraklion, the 18,000 in the current prefecture of Chania, Rethymnon and 13 000 in 8000 to Lasithi.

After the liberation from the Turks, the autonomous Cretan state has its own inventory in 1900. The Turkish Cretans was about 39,000, as well as thousands fled to Turkey and even to America. In the census of 1911 found fewer than 28,000. Their population had declined further to around 1922, and the Treaty of Lausanne and the exchange of Christian and Muslim populations in January 1923 and left last.



Read more: http://infognomonpolitics.blogspot.com/2010/06/blog-post_21.html#ixzz0ri74aNvq

Small difference:they wil deal with Creta Greeks not with Cyprus Greeks-big difference-god/Allah help them

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Monday, 21 June 2010
Turks claim their property in Crete

Dozens of Turks in Crete looking for the fortunes of their ancestors and how to claim. In recent months, Iraklion, Chania and Rethymno, and in other legal areas occurred mainly representatives, exploring the ability to record, first, the assets had Turkish Cretans grandparents, through contracts that were the state archives of the Turkish government, until 1898.

It says even the local newspaper, in some cases it seems that the search has come up in the archives of the Greek Foreign Ministry.

Impressive is the fact that the descendants of those who departed from the island before a century, or the exchange of populations after the Asia Minor catastrophe, knowing exactly where to find traces of ancestral property, which means that their research not starting until now, nor that it is only for historical reasons.

It is well equipped with search and data files then a translation bureau, which were all Turkish archives and acts made by the Ottomans.

Indeed, there are cases where the investigations concern even in areas where currently operating public buildings.

Representatives from Turkey "stakeholders" are clear, however, that it would not challenge the ownership of those assets will appreciate that legally transferred to the next owners. But surely this will happen as they, through their legal advisers, Turks and Greeks believe that they are legally transferred.

The investigation has been launched at all, almost all the local authorities in Crete, which those believing that there is any evidence that might lead them to establish property rights, which they intend to pursue even at international courts.

In the official census was done in 1881 by the Ottomans in Crete was 72,353, of whom about 33,000 are living in Iraklion, the 18,000 in the current prefecture of Chania, Rethymnon and 13 000 in 8000 to Lasithi.

After the liberation from the Turks, the autonomous Cretan state has its own inventory in 1900. The Turkish Cretans was about 39,000, as well as thousands fled to Turkey and even to America. In the census of 1911 found fewer than 28,000. Their population had declined further to around 1922, and the Treaty of Lausanne and the exchange of Christian and Muslim populations in January 1923 and left last.



Read more: http://infognomonpolitics.blogspot.com/2010/06/blog-post_21.html#ixzz0ri74aNvq

Small difference:they wil deal with Creta Greeks not with Cyprus Greeks-big difference-god/Allah help them

Cretan Greeks are great people. Independence for Kriti now!!!!

[Malapapa]

Small difference:they wil deal with Creta Greeks not with Cyprus Greeks-big difference-god/Allah help them

Please can you expand on this big difference? Is it genetic? Cultural? And how do you account for it?

[Nikitas]

"Please can you expand on this big difference? Is it genetic? Cultural? And how do you account for it?"

The difference is that the Cretans obey their customs before they obey the law. They trust their own and their family's abilities more than any government, and they band together to keep Athens appointed civils servants in their place.

In Cyprus we still retain laws passed during the emergency period during the British occupation.

[DT.]

"Please can you expand on this big difference? Is it genetic? Cultural? And how do you account for it?"

The difference is that the Cretans obey their customs before they obey the law. They trust their own and their family's abilities more than any government, and they band together to keep Athens appointed civils servants in their place.

In Cyprus we still retain laws passed during the emergency period during the British occupation.

They have balls, but they also have the GDP of Pedoulas.

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Reminds me of things past...

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=24154