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Re: An alphabet for Cypriot-Greek and Cypriot-Turkish

Postby Sotos » Wed Jun 23, 2010 6:32 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Omer Seyhan wrote:I propose a common alphabet for both Cypriot-Greek and Cypriot-Turkish which we can call the Cypriot alphabet .

A Cypriot Alphabet already exists...

http://www.ancientscripts.com/cypriot.html

...and did so WAY before anything Turkish or Greek existed.


It is not alphabet. It is a syllabary. And from 12th century BC that script was use to write Greek. Do you read the links that you give? ;) So in Cyprus we wrote in the Minoan language for like 3 centuries and then in Greek for 32 centuries.
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Postby Mikiko » Wed Jun 23, 2010 7:04 pm

There was a discussion on this on TV . If anyone considers what he is taught at school and what he speaks at home or at work its two different languages with different words not the same - . At school you use the DImotiki but at home or with friends you use your own languages not the one who is taught at school . this is the distorrted version of our language.

I dont know any Cypriot who use at home or in cafes the language with same as he is taught at school unless of course he lives in another planet . At home he use a mixture of words including arabic italian , turkish and many more other foreign words. we have thousands of foreign words in our own languages that does not appear in the greek language.

This is the stupidity of our system which uses two rules and two set of histories to explain the people on this island . and its not a suprise that we are divided its this attitude that brought the partition of the island. Well Done no other country on this planet could have achieved this ..we are unique in everything we do.
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Re: An alphabet for Cypriot-Greek and Cypriot-Turkish

Postby Oracle » Wed Jun 23, 2010 9:13 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Oracle wrote:Crete was the cradle of the Minoan Civilization,

And given that the Minoan civilisation was NOT Greek then...

A Cypriot Alphabet already exists...

...and did so WAY before anything Turkish or Greek existed.


Still stands!


So you are prepared to believe the Phoenicians became the Lebanese and you don't believe the Minoans became Greek?
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Postby bill cobbett » Wed Jun 23, 2010 9:21 pm

Mikiko wrote:There was a discussion on this on TV . If anyone considers what he is taught at school and what he speaks at home or at work its two different languages with different words not the same - . At school you use the DImotiki but at home or with friends you use your own languages not the one who is taught at school . this is the distorrted version of our language.

I dont know any Cypriot who use at home or in cafes the language with same as he is taught at school unless of course he lives in another planet . At home he use a mixture of words including arabic italian , turkish and many more other foreign words. we have thousands of foreign words in our own languages that does not appear in the greek language.

This is the stupidity of our system which uses two rules and two set of histories to explain the people on this island . and its not a suprise that we are divided its this attitude that brought the partition of the island. Well Done no other country on this planet could have achieved this ..we are unique in everything we do.


Well said Mikkio, those who seek to impose or support a Demotic Greek Meaningless Pollocks Language on CY will fail in their state-controlling ways, they are facing an impossible task cos things always revert to the Kibreika.....

Kibreika je Zivania
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Postby Gasman » Wed Jun 23, 2010 9:30 pm

Demotic Greek Meaningless Pollocks Language

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Brilliant!
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Postby bill cobbett » Wed Jun 23, 2010 9:32 pm

Gasman wrote:
Demotic Greek Meaningless Pollocks Language

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Brilliant!


Thank you Gaserolla, you're very kind.
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Re: An alphabet for Cypriot-Greek and Cypriot-Turkish

Postby Get Real! » Wed Jun 23, 2010 10:46 pm

Sotos wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Omer Seyhan wrote:I propose a common alphabet for both Cypriot-Greek and Cypriot-Turkish which we can call the Cypriot alphabet .

A Cypriot Alphabet already exists...

http://www.ancientscripts.com/cypriot.html

...and did so WAY before anything Turkish or Greek existed.


It is not alphabet. It is a syllabary. And from 12th century BC that script was use to write Greek. Do you read the links that you give? ;) So in Cyprus we wrote in the Minoan language for like 3 centuries and then in Greek for 32 centuries.

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Postby Piratis » Thu Jun 24, 2010 1:34 am

Mikiko wrote:There was a discussion on this on TV . If anyone considers what he is taught at school and what he speaks at home or at work its two different languages with different words not the same - . At school you use the DImotiki but at home or with friends you use your own languages not the one who is taught at school . this is the distorrted version of our language.

I dont know any Cypriot who use at home or in cafes the language with same as he is taught at school unless of course he lives in another planet . At home he use a mixture of words including arabic italian , turkish and many more other foreign words. we have thousands of foreign words in our own languages that does not appear in the greek language.

This is the stupidity of our system which uses two rules and two set of histories to explain the people on this island . and its not a suprise that we are divided its this attitude that brought the partition of the island. Well Done no other country on this planet could have achieved this ..we are unique in everything we do.


Cypriot is a Greek dialect and accent, not a different language. Different dialects exist among most languages.

For English, the equivalent of standard Greek as taught in schools would be Queen's English, or standard English. I can understand perfectly standard English as spoken by say BBC News presenters and I can also perfectly understand the American dialect of English. But when common people from the UK (especially certain parts) talk, I understand almost nothing from what they say. I remember watching BBC some time ago and they had subtitles for when an Indian person was talking in English. This is just for English. Other languages, e.g. German, have even more variability among the dialects.

About foreign words in our language this is a common thing for all languages. Think how many Greeks words there are in English for example. Similarly Greek has borrowed many words from many other languages. This is perfectly natural and is true for Greek in general, not just for the Cypriot dialect.

If you want to educate yourselves on the subject, then I would suggest to download "Modern Greek dialects" by Peter Trudgill by following the link below.

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Postby Gasman » Thu Jun 24, 2010 2:18 am

GR could you please provide a translation of the message from the ancients?

Here's one from mine


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Postby T_C » Thu Jun 24, 2010 2:49 am

Gasman wrote:GR could you please provide a translation of the message from the ancients?

Here's one from mine


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I can read Cypriot. 8)

It says 'Ise Muni'....not sure what it means....though I have a rough idea.... :lol:
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