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[Get Real!]

I propose a common alphabet for both Cypriot-Greek and Cypriot-Turkish which we can call the Cypriot alphabet .

A Cypriot Alphabet already exists...

http://www.ancientscripts.com/cypriot.html

...and did so WAY before anything Turkish or Greek existed.

[denizaksulu]

Ðašak Ali Ðayi , amma gunno cikti bu da

He aint that bad; just that he reminds me of ...........what is it called, The English actors pretending to be French who pretend to speak English in ALLO, ALLO

If you say 'Daşşak Ali dayı' it sounds more vulgar. Not that I ever use the expression as we all have it and it would sound non-sensical.

Ofcourse if you are a garasakal, you might say tashak which is a bit effeminate or should I say 'kibar'.

[Oracle]

I propose a common alphabet for both Cypriot-Greek and Cypriot-Turkish which we can call the Cypriot alphabet .

A Cypriot Alphabet already exists...

http://www.ancientscripts.com/cypriot.html

...and did so WAY before anything Turkish or Greek existed.

But, not before the Cretan Linear A.

It would be nice to recreate the Cypro-Minoan as I think it looks beautiful -- but I can only hand-write it. Is there any way to reproduce the syllabary on screen, by keyboard or cut and pasting the syllabograms?

Perhaps you can provide it for us in another thread, similar to this one -- this is the Cyprus Forum after all, not some cryptic Turkish vehicle!

[denizaksulu]

I propose a common alphabet for both Cypriot-Greek and Cypriot-Turkish which we can call the Cypriot alphabet .

A Cypriot Alphabet already exists...

http://www.ancientscripts.com/cypriot.html

...and did so WAY before anything Turkish or Greek existed.

But, not before the Cretan Linear A.

It would be nice to recreate the Cypro-Minoan as I think it looks beautiful -- but I can only hand-write it. Is there any way to reproduce the syllabary on screen, by keyboard or cut and pasting the syllabograms?

Perhaps you can provide it for us in another thread, similar to this one -- this is the Cyprus Forum after all, not some cryptic Turkish vehicle!

....and you 'entrust the chicken to the fox'?

[Get Real!]

But, not before the Cretan Linear A.

There's no such thing as a "Cretan Linear A"! The Minoans were NOT Greeks!

Your constant twisting of facts is not working girl…

[Daniella]

But, not before the Cretan Linear A.

There's no such thing as a "Cretan Linear A"! The Minoans were NOT Greeks!


Thanks God! Now I know you are not completely out of mind!
I agree with you.

[Oracle]

But, not before the Cretan Linear A.

There's no such thing as a "Cretan Linear A"! The Minoans were NOT Greeks!

Your constant twisting of facts is not working girl…

From your link ...

Linear A

Crete was the cradle of the Minoan Civilization, which spanned roughly from 2000 BCE to 1200 BCE. In addition to incredible frescoes, indoor plumbing (!), the Minoans also developed the first written system of Europe.

The oldest example of writing in Crete is a kind of "hieroglyphic" (which means that the signs are picture-like) script. The media where the hieroglyphic inscriptions appeared are mostly clay sealstones.

The origin of the Cretan writing system lies in the extensive use of engraved sealstones, which depict physical objects, to (possibly) record quantities of these objects in soft clay. This forms a natural progression to a systematic writing system.

As time progresses hieroglyphic system became more stylized and more linear. Instead of impressing sealstones in soft clay, the glyphs are incised on the soft clay with a stylus. In addition, quantities are represented by numerals (not multiple impressions of the same sign). As time goes on, it appears that the linear hieroglyphic system evolved into Linear A.

Linear A has roughly 90 symbols, thus most likely a syllabary much like Linear B. However, Linear A has resisted all attempts at decipherment because its underlying language is still unknown and probably will remain obscure since it doesn't seem to relate to any other surviving language in Europe or Western Asia.

Linear B and Cypriot both exhibit considerable similarity to Linear A. Because of its time depth, Linear A appears to be the immediate ancestor to both of these writing systems.

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And, in anticipation of your next anti-Greek post:



Cambridge Archaeological Journal (1998), 8:239-264 Cambridge University Press
Copyright © The McDonald Institute for Archaeological Research 1998
doi:10.1017/S0959774300001852
Articles

Word of Minos: the Minoan Contribution to Mycenaean Greek and the Linguistic Geography of the Bronze Age Aegean

Colin Renfrewa1
a1 McDonald Institute for Archaeological Research Downing Street Cambridge CB2 3ER
Article author query
renfrew c
Abstract

The question of the supposedly pre-Greek language or languages of the Aegean, in its wider historical and cultural context, has not been systematically addressed since the decipherment of the Linear B script, other than in the philological studies of DA. Hester. Here it is argued that the time is ripe for a new synthesis between the linguistic and the cultural evidence. The language of the Minoan Linear A script, that is (it is here assumed) the Minoan language of the palaces, is here identified as making the principal contribution to the so-called ‘pre-Greek’ vocabulary of the Greek language, thus constituting not a linguistic substratum of earlier date but an adstratum, which developed during their co-existence in the Aegean during the Bronze Age. This may be seen as the linguistic component in the ‘Versailles effect’ of Minoan palatial influence within the Aegean, which reached its apogee in the Late Bronze 1 period, a view anticipated in some respects in the work of some earlier writers notably G. Glotz.

Such an approach focuses attention more clearly on the intellectual and ideological contributions of Minoan culture to the emerging Mycenaean civilization, rather than on the piecemeal acquisition of material items, without however assigning a secondary or subordinate role to the mainland communities in their own transition towards state society. One important consequence of the argument is to diminish (or even eliminate) the case for a significant chronologically pre-Greek element in the Greek language. One principal argument against the very early, probably Neolithic arrival of proto-Greek (or proto-Indo-European) speakers into mainland Greece is thereby removed. The resulting simplification in the linguistic picture of the Bronze Age Aegean proposed here carries implications also for that of western Anatolia and for the great antiquity there of the Luwian language. It opens questions also about the affinities of the presumed Anatolianancestor of the Minoan (or proto-Minoan) language.

[Gasman]

Oh goodie ... Greekiot language lessons

[Get Real!]

Crete was the cradle of the Minoan Civilization,

And given that the Minoan civilisation was NOT Greek then...

A Cypriot Alphabet already exists...

...and did so WAY before anything Turkish or Greek existed.

Still stands!

Do not respond any further to this Oracle because this time I won’t be so lenient and your total humiliation will be SWIFT.

[Sotos]

Let's try to use this new alphabet...

Üzüm üzüme bakarag gararır

will become

Üzÿm üzÿme bakarag gararĭr

So it is almost like Turkish. No thanks if You want a Cypriot Alphabet it will be Greek alphabet with some additional letters