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[Gasman]

The law already stands with up to 7 years in prison for being involved in property purchases on the dark side, so why the F, don't they enforce it.

Yes - why don't they? I've asked this many times. There must be a reason why they don't. I believe only a couple of people have been arrested under this law, although it is not 'retrospective' so doesn't affect anyone who purchased before 2006 (and a hell of a lot purchased prior to that date).

On 20 October 2006 a criminal code amendment relating to property came into effect. Under the amendment, buying, selling, renting, promoting or mortgaging a property without the permission of the owner (the person whose ownership is registered with the Republic of Cyprus Land Registry, including Greek Cypriots displaced from northern Cyprus in 1974), is a criminal offence. This also applies to agreeing to sell, buy or rent a property without the owner’s permission.

The maximum prison sentence is 7 years. Furthermore, the amendment to the law states that any attempt to undertake such a transaction is a criminal offence and could result in a prison sentence of up to 5 years. This law is not retrospective, so will not criminalise transactions that took place before 20 October 2006.

Documents relating to the purchase of property in northern Cyprus will be presumed by the Cypriot authorities to relate to the illegal transfer of Greek Cypriot property and may be subject to confiscation when crossing the Green Line. Anyone in possession of these documents may be asked to make a statement to the Cypriot authorities and may face criminal proceedings under the 20 October 2006 amendment.

The full implications of this legislation are not yet clear. Any enquiries about its scope should be made to the Republic of Cyprus High Commission in London(tel: 020 7499 8272).

British and other foreign nationals who have entered Cyprus through the north are considered by the Government of the Republic of Cyprus to have entered Cyprus through an illegal port of entry. The Government of the Republic of Cyprus reserves the right to fine EU (including British) citizens for illegal entry if they cross into the south. In practice, their current policy is not to do so.

It is the bits in bold that interest me. Again - why? I can find nothing that further explains the 'full implications' of the legislation making it 'clearer' since 2006 when it was introduced.

As for the current policy being not to fine people for using an illegal point of entry. When was it made 'policy'? Where is it explained? Who took the decision and why?

I know from personal experience that you can furnish the Cyprus High Commission with full details of 'offenders' - name, dob, ID particulars, passport number, car reg no., address in the TRNC, RoC and elsewhere and give minute detail of their 'criminal' activity in this field - and NOTHING is done.

You might get a formal acknowledgement of your communications/emails etc. but you will never hear from them again.

This leads me to believe that they are just not interested. But, as I said already, WHY?

[Oracle]

The northern area of Cyprus is part of the ROC, how can you prevent EU nationals crossing the Green Line, within the same country?

Because EU administration (via the RoC) is suspended!

I think it's fair enough for the RoC to allow people to cross "out" from the Green Line .... but as to who comes back in again, across a war zone, should be subject to conflict controls.

[Svetlana]

The northern area of Cyprus is part of the ROC, how can you prevent EU nationals crossing the Green Line, within the same country?

Because EU administration (via the RoC) is suspended!

I think it's fair enough for the RoC to allow people to cross "out" from the Green Line .... but as to who comes back in again, across a war zone, should be subject to conflict controls.

I do not want to transgress Forum Rules by dragging this into CyProb, but two quick questions on fact:

Is the northern area of Cyprus in the EU?
Does a state of war exist between Cyprus and Turkey?

[IMPOSTALIEDUS]

nothing is being done about carpetbaggers in the south ,AND YOU HAVE THEM ,only last week three gc were arrested ,one a land registry employee and another an estate agent for forging tc title deeds into gc deeds . they had made deals worth 3.5 million euro before being found out by sheer luck,how much has allready been sold without any buyer knowing its tc land, most purchasers in the south have no deeds to prove otherwise

[Oracle]

The northern area of Cyprus is part of the ROC, how can you prevent EU nationals crossing the Green Line, within the same country?

Because EU administration (via the RoC) is suspended!

I think it's fair enough for the RoC to allow people to cross "out" from the Green Line .... but as to who comes back in again, across a war zone, should be subject to conflict controls.

I do not want to transgress Forum Rules by dragging this into CyProb, but two quick questions on fact:

Is the northern area of Cyprus in the EU?
Does a state of war exist between Cyprus and Turkey?

Yes, the whole of Cyprus is in the EU, but administration is suspended whilst the occupation is in force. Ergo, Cyprus and Turkey are in a "state of war" until the occupying army retreats.

[bill cobbett]

The northern area of Cyprus is part of the ROC, how can you prevent EU nationals crossing the Green Line, within the same country?

Because EU administration (via the RoC) is suspended!

I think it's fair enough for the RoC to allow people to cross "out" from the Green Line .... but as to who comes back in again, across a war zone, should be subject to conflict controls.

I do not want to transgress Forum Rules by dragging this into CyProb, but two quick questions on fact:

Is the northern area of Cyprus in the EU?
Does a state of war exist between Cyprus and Turkey?

Yes absolutely there is Free Movement in to the EU area of the Occupied North but there is also an opt-out.

Perfectly within the rules of the game for the government of the Republic to limit crossings through the cease-fire lines IF it cites National Interest or National Security reasons.

[DT.]

Getting back to this raggety airline going bust I think this was a greatly missed opportunity.

Cyprus Airways should have stepped in and acquired this firm. Following that they should resume flights from Larnaca.

[Svetlana]

Perhaps we can sell them Eurocypria....

[Jerry]

I think if a few of these carpetbaggers had to endure a long delay by customs and immigration on arrival for "technical" reasons word would soon get around and they would stop using Larnaca. A complete ban would probably result in a slapped wrist for the ROC from the EU.

I think they have a bloody cheek, they abuse GCs at every opportunity on their crummy forums but they are only too happy to take advantage of the ROC facilities when it suits them. "We are EU citizens, you can't stop us" they say. The bastards pick and choose the law as and when it suits them.

[DT.]

I think if a few of these carpetbaggers had to endure a long delay by customs and immigration on arrival for "technical" reasons word would soon get around and they would stop using Larnaca. A complete ban would probably result in a slapped wrist for the ROC from the EU.

I think they have a bloody cheek, they abuse GCs at every opportunity on their crummy forums but they are only too happy to take advantage of the ROC facilities when it suits them. "We are EU citizens, you can't stop us" they say. The bastards pick and choose the law as and when it suits them.

you've given me an idea.