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[yialousa1971]

Sunday, June 20, 2010
http://www.defencenet.gr/defence/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=12731&Itemid=137

Recent information from the attack by fighters of the PKK in the region Gediktepe checkpoint between the villages of Tekeli, Günyazı and Ortaklar Şemdinli the city on the border between Turkey and Iraq indicate that so far the Turkish losses are 12 killed and 16 wounded. As stated in Turkish sources Kurdish fighters had to ensure the mining of roads leading to the outpost were attacked, leading the convoy carrying aid for it to suffer significant losses from their mines.

Since this operation also killed two soldiers and two wounded. A total of eight helicopters used to transport the dead and injured in that area is near the border between Turkey and Iraq. The company started in two after midnight, involved 250 PKK militants who attacked from three directions, while the battle lasted until seven in the morning, a total of 5 hours.

According to the Turkish Defence losses of combatants is 12 dead. Under sections were transported by helicopter from the 3rd Battalion of the mountain commando brigade based in Semdili. The dense fog that prevailed, but in the night and contributed to the support by attack helicopters to be inadequate. With the first light of day, the PKK members who participated in the operation returned to their bases in N. Iraq

With new information from Kurdish sources, the Turkish army losses from unexpected combinations of the PKK operation of almost 20 dead and 19 wounded. But a video posted on the internet shows the continuous transport of injured to hospital in the region. Noteworthy that the company is the large number of fighters PPK in the company (250 people) and the fact that the majority of them came from one of the best-guarded areas of the region according to the Turkish Army.

After so many losses with a total of 66 deaths in four months and 108 wounded raises serious questions about the quality of the Turkish Army especially when the area routinely employed units manned by professional soldiers. It also raises questions about the equipment and the Turks who, despite the large markets of the war with Kurdish fighters failed as failed and the fall of 2008 to identify the early attacking Kurdish forces, which in both cases numbered hundreds of men throughout equipment.

In another incident Friday, a Turkish militiaman was killed and three more injured in crossfire with Turkish soldiers in a mountain village of Semdinli Uğuraçan city in the province of Hakkari.

Group village guards moved to a military convoy of cars headed toward the outpost in Aktutun Stratochorofylakis in order to provide protection. The Turks, however, soldiers saw the convoy apparently PKK fighters and opened fire causing the death of one guard and wounding three more.

http://ethnikolaikometwpo.blogspot.com/2010/06/pkk-12-16.html

[yialousa1971]

PKK attacks a Turkish convoy.

[wyoming cowboy]

This shows the inherent problem with the Turkish army, too centralized they may have numerical edge on all fronts but their command needs too much time to organize when something unexpected happens...This proves it...

[yialousa1971]

Continuing attacks by the PKK in the Turkish police and military installations

New offensive launched by fighters of the PKK in police and military facilities in the province of Siirt Pervari evening Friday, July 16. Kurdish militant group attacked the building Stratochorofylakis Administration in Management of State Security and police dormitories.

The attack took place at 21.30 on Friday night with the Kurdish fighters using machine guns and anti-tank missiles during the operation that lasted one hour. Result of the attack was seriously injured four policemen and five soldiers with the result of all Turkish military wounded since March to reach the 141.

Information from the city indicate that in addition to the wounded and dead are Turkish military. During the operation to stop the city had electricity and running of the telephone network. Additionally Kurdish militants blew up a gas pipeline between the cities and Kerasountas Ordu on the Black Sea coast.

[Me Ed]

I'm sure the TCs on this forum have every sympathy with the plight of the Kurds and their treatment by Turkey.

[Get Real!]

I'm sure the TCs on this forum have every sympathy with the plight of the Kurds and their treatment by Turkey.

The “Turkish Cypriot” cockroaches will interpret it as a peace operation to liberate the Kurds!

[Get Real!]

Turkish pilots accused of assisting PKK

The Turkish Armed Forces is looking to see whether two of its ranking servicemen sought to protect the anti-Ankara militants, Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK).

Domestic newspaper Bugun on Thursday said that the suspects, Lt. Firat C and Lt. Col. Selim Selcuk C, both pilots, could have tried to prevent attacks by military surveillance aircraft on the gunmen.

http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=13 ... =351020204

[Get Real!]

Erdogan removing all political competition the “democratic” way…

Turkish court indicts 196 people in alleged military coup plot

ANKARA, Turkey: A court indicted 196 people, including four retired military commanders, of conspiring to overthrow the Islamic-oriented government in 2003 in an alleged plot that highlights tension between Turkey’s pious leadership and its secular opponents on Monday.

A 968-page indictment accuses the suspects of planning to create chaos and pave the way for a military takeover in an alleged conspiracy that has been dubbed “Sledgehammer,” the Anatolia news agency and other media reported.

Some 30 serving or retired military officers were indicted, including retired General Dogan Cetin, former commander of Turkey’s first army, former naval force commander Ozden Ornek, former air force commander Ibrahim Firtina and former army commander Ergin Saygun, Anatolia said.

They face up to 20 years in prison if convicted of attempting to bring down the government, and membership in an illegal organization, according to the Dogan news agency. Most were detained in February – but subsequently released – after a newspaper, Taraf, published allegedly leaked copies of documents detailing their plans.

http://dailystar.com.lb/article.asp?edi ... z0uE27zz3N


NB: Note that only about 30-40 of those indicted have or had anything to do with the military!

[thegame24]

What exactly do kurds want from turkey, to have an independant state?

[yialousa1971]

Posted at 12:26 AM on Tuesday, Jul. 20, 2010
By CHRISTOPHER TORCHIA


Read more: http://www.fresnobee.com/2010/07/20/201 ... z0uHLfTiv0


ISTANBUL -- Kurdish rebels killed six Turkish soldiers and wounded nine in an overnight raid Tuesday on a military outpost along the border with Iraq, indicating the resiliency of their low-level insurgency and the failure of efforts to reach a peace accord. Another soldier died in a separate attack.

Troops backed by helicopter gunships surged into the mountainous area after the attack, even as Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan acknowledged that military action alone would not end a 26-year conflict rooted in the grievances of Turkey's Kurdish minority.

"There is no magic wand," Erdogan said in a weekly address in Parliament. "If we look at it as merely a question of security, we would be wrong. We have done so for years. The results are clear. But this issue has sociological, psychological, diplomatic and many other aspects."

According to the prime minister and Anatolia news agency, rebels from the Kurdistan Workers' Party, known by its Kurdish acronym PKK, fired rockets and other weapons at the unit at around 2 a.m. At least one rebel was killed, and clashes were underway later in the day.

Earlier reports said 15 soldiers were wounded, but the Turkish military said on its website that nine were slightly wounded.

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AP Photo - Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan, left, arrives for a meeting in Ankara, Turkey, Monday, July 19, 2010. Kurdish rebels killed six Turkish soldiers and wounded 15 in an overnight raid Tuesday, July 20, 2010, on a military outpost in Hakkari along the border with Iraq, indicating the resiliency of their low-level insurgency and the failure of efforts to reach a peace accord. Another soldier died in a separate rebel attack.
Ibrahim Usta, FileAP Photo - FILE - In this March 21, 2010 file photo, masked Kurdish demonstrators show posters of jailed rebel leader Abdullah Ocalan, in Istanbul, Turkey. Kurdish rebels killed six Turkish soldiers and wounded 15 in an overnight raid Tuesday, July 20, 2010, on a military outpost in Hakkari along the border with Iraq, indicating the resiliency of their low-level insurgency and the failure of efforts to reach a peace accord. Another soldier died in a separate rebel attack.


The fighting happened near the town of Cukurca in Hakkari province in southeast Turkey, a frequent site of attacks by PKK militants who slip across an Iraqi border that is difficult to police because of its remote and rugged landscape.

In northern Iraq, PKK spokesman Roz Wellat told The Associated Press by telephone that Turkish jets overnight bombed some areas in Mount Qandil, site of a main guerrilla base along Iraq's border with Iran. He said there were no rebel casualties.

In a separate attack Tuesday, suspected rebels fired on a military vehicle near the town of Gurpinar in Van province, north of Cukurca, DHA news agency reported. One soldier died, and the attackers fled.

Labeled terrorists by Turkey and the West, the rebels have accelerated operations since June, declaring that the government was not sincere about seeking peace. Erdogan's government has tried to improve the lot of Turkish Kurds, who comprise up to 20 percent of Turkey's population of more than 70 million. It allowed Kurdish-language television broadcasts and other rights aimed at blunting rebel calls for more autonomy in the mainly Kurdish southeast.

However, the return last year of a group of PKK rebels from Iraq to Turkey in what was supposed to be a reconciliation gesture turned sour. The rebels cast it as a victory celebration, infuriating Turks and sapping support for government initiatives.

A recent decision by jailed PKK chief Abdullah Ocalan to leave decisions to rebel commanders in the field led to more ambushes, said Carina O'Reilly, Europe analyst for London-based Jane's Country Risk. She said there could be more attacks in urban settings if the Kurdistan Freedom Falcons, a PKK branch with some autonomy, become more active.

"The PKK seem to have an almost unlimited capacity to keep going at this low level of insurgency," O'Reilly said. "There's no real military way of flushing them out."

Turkey, a NATO member, has a mostly conscript force of about 1 million and has conducted frequent air attacks on suspected rebel hideouts in northern Iraq. Turkish leaders, however, acknowledge that the tactic cannot wipe out the PKK, which is weaker than in its 1990s heyday, and might serve as a recruitment tool by pushing angry youths into rebel ranks.

Also Tuesday, Turkey's parliament on Tuesday started debating an amendment to soften an anti-terrorism law that has been used to jail Kurdish minors involved in violent protests. The proposal would reduce or waive jail terms for Kurdish youths convicted of throwing stones at police.

The government proposed the measure in late 2009, but it was shelved amid nationalist fury after a Kurdish firebomb attack killed a Turkish woman this year. Those who bear firearms or ammunition would not receive leniency.

Erdogan said lawmakers would hopefully approve the measure by the end of this week.

Associated Press writers Suzan Fraser and Selcan Hacaoglu from Ankara, Turkey, and Yahya Barzanji in Sulaimaniyah, Iraq, contributed to this report.