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[BOF]

YFred made a big mistake, but as has been admitted he had been goaded by another forum member.
theres a lot of you (if you were man enough to admit it to yourself) who have overstepped the mark (phaphitis your use of the C word was disgusting) and should realise you dont have the authority to gang up on others who may spoil your cosy debates with what you consider stupidity...however i dont see any complaints when "winding up the world" puts in a sometimes inane comment.
this is an open forum EVERYONE has the right to express themselves.
He should have the option to apologise to Admin and and when his ban is over return..

[bill cobbett]

Empathy begins and ends with conventional democracy and HR!

Everything else is just rhetoric and empty words. Empathy is shown in one's actions, and if those actions go against the grain of universal equality for ALL, then those words of 'empathy' are empty and worthy of contempt.

Words are cheap!

No,words are really expensive...so I will make it brief : CYPRUS,1963 -1974...LEST WE FORGET...

Oh dear ... looks like someone's already forgotten ...>>>> CY 1974 - 2010 ... and counting .... and remembering.

[denizaksulu]

So the Admin has given YFred a "leave of absence" for a month for YFred's abusive behaviour towards the Admin, as I understand it.

May I ask what is the big deal with our friends who are adamant to get YFred back to the forum before his "sentence" is finished.??

I may feel sorry for YFred just because he is experiencing CF "withdrawal effects" at the moment being locked out of the forum much like what a drug addict goes through for not getting their daily "fix", and by all indications, YFred is a CF junkie, is the reason why he jumps into any topic that may be open, whether he knows what he is talking about or not, or whether he is giving ill support to another forum members arguments, whether he understands them or not, just so long as he is participating. That is a classic CF junkie by all definitions..

Personally, we can all do a little break from YFred's thousands of pointless posts, including YFred himself, from himself. He should take this time as an opportunity to reflect back on the posts he has made in the last year or so and see that he has hardly made any direct contribution in advancing serious discussions on any major topics, other than his contributions on Turkish Music. Let him take a break and come back fresh. Personally I'm not holding my breath that he can improve himself, but there is always a chance that he might.

How is YFred's "Freedom of Speech and HR" are violated, just because he has been banned for a month, if he in fact was abusive to the Admin.? Freedom of Speech has it's limitations like everything else in life, and once certain lines are crossed, consequences follow, so I don't think YFred's FoS or his HR has been violated by the CF, considering the fact, that CF is a private entity, which can makes it's own rules as they want. We as participant members need to recognise and accept those rules, regardless how many times we may have gotten away by breaking those rules in the past. It does not mean we can break them with impunity without being punished for it in one form or another.

So, I'll tell YFred to take a month long deserved "vacation" from the CF and come back with fresh attitude towards his fellow CF members. I'm sure other CF members will respond to him in kind, if he does.!

Hi Kiks.

I have just seen you post re: Yfred.

[denizaksulu]

xx

[wyoming cowboy]

Freedom of Speech......I want Yfred back no matter what he said.........

[Kikapu]

xx

Were these xx for me, Deniz.?

People will start talking, you know.!

[Get Real!]

I may feel sorry for YFred just because he is experiencing CF "withdrawal effects" at the moment being locked out of the forum much like what a drug addict goes through for not getting their daily "fix", and by all indications, YFred is a CF junkie, is the reason why he jumps into any topic that may be open, whether he knows what he is talking about or not, or whether he is giving ill support to another forum members arguments, whether he understands them or not, just so long as he is participating. That is a classic CF junkie by all definitions..

What a great explanation by the forum psychologist! You hear that Y-Fronts or should that be Y-Banned? You have to go visit Dr Kikapopoulos a couple of times a week now for the whole month so that he may cure you from your compulsive posting disorder!

[Get Real!]

Hi Kiks.

I have just seen you post re: Yfred.

Err, maybe a few other compulsive people need a break too...

[Admin]

Hello,

Our last, "catch all", rule states: "The administrators and moderators have the final word - If you have a problem or a complaint, direct it to the administrator and/or moderators, not to the boards. They will then take the appropriate actions."

If you want to get YFred's side of the story then you can email him, call him or contact him in any other way. However my decisions as an Admin of the forum can not be debated or negotiated in a public thread here. This debate is against our rules but I will let it run for a while more since I want to use this opportunity to say a few more things.

Freedom of Speech
What "freedom of speech" means within the context of this forum is that you are free to express your views on a wide range of topics as long as you do so in the correct section and within the limits of our rules. You should keep in mind that this website is privately owned. A right to participate in this or any other forum is a right given by the owners of the forum to the members under certain terms. I am not a head of a state and therefore I am not in the position to restrict the freedom of speech of anybody. I can only exercise my own rights over my own property.

This forum allows its members to express themselves in a way that is more free than most other fora. However there are always limits and the members should understand where the limits are. A forum without any limits not only will create an environment which is not appropriate for most people but could also get the owner into trouble.

Bans
My time is very limited and currently I am not able to moderate the forum to the degree I would like. As you know we are very flexible with the rules and rarely members are penalized for their posts. If, however, I notice something wrong and I contact a member then I expect that member to show some respect and understanding. YFred didn't do this and he was banned as a result but as I said I will give him a second chance after a month.

YFred is not the first regular member to be banned. Other members who have been banned in the past include Paphitis, Get Real!, Oracle and boomerang and this is just from members who posted in this thread. Some regular members have been banned multiple times. You can't expect from me to treat the ban of YFred in a different way. He will take a break from the forum for a month and then, if he wants, he can return as long as he agrees to respect the forum a bit more.

Please do not try to blackmail me into changing my decision. If you can't post in the forum unless YFred is present then you can take a one month break from the forum as well. If you feel very strongly about it you could even permanently stop using the forum. I will be very sorry if you choose this but it will not change my decision about YFred.

What I say now about YFred is true for everybody. I am not going to write such a post every time somebody is banned. So please remember my position on this issue.

Thank you

[Oracle]

This is another case of TCs expecting to be treated in a special way.

Notice that Admin has banned more GCs than TCs. In fact, YFred is probably the first TC to be banned, that I am aware of, and it is not because the TCs are not provocative. Runaway has gotten away with a lot, as Deniz will testify.

I think Admin is extremely generous to the TCs, probably because they are so hard done by when it comes to freedom of speech, by their own administrations.

Instead of saying "thank-you" to Admin for allowing them this taste of honey, they complain over one worthless poster who has frequently threatened other users.