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Postby Svetlana » Tue Jun 22, 2010 1:05 pm

Dear Oracle, if you wish to be chastised, I am sure there will be several Forum members who would be pleased to oblige :-)
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Postby boomerang » Tue Jun 22, 2010 1:20 pm

BirKibrisli wrote:
boomerang wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
Sotos wrote:YFred posts were junk! They should also ban Halil. He posts all the Bycrap junk here but when I made a comment at the Bycrap website the message said that it would be reviewed by some administrator first. My message was never published! Freedom of speech my arse! If Bycrap doesn't give freedom of speech to us why should we give freedom of speech to bycrap?

You cannot say "This is my house,I have an open door policy,anybody can come here but I can do anything I like with those who turn up,and nobody can question me!"


He can ;) This is how forums work. Somebody needs to take decisions and who else if not the admin? If we were going to discuss and debate every decision then we would never agree and nothing would be ever done. :lol:


Whether YFred posted junk or not is a very subjective judgement...In this context,it is like one man's terrorist being another's freedom fighter...But that is not the issue here,,,Yfred was not banned because his posts were junk...If people got banned for that reason not many of us will be left here... :wink: And that would be a sure road to sensorship..."I don't like what you are saying,so it is junk...You are banned,Voila!!!"

Admins do have a lot of power,and with that comes a lot of responsibility...People need to be satisfied that justice has been done...In other words,justice,especially natural justice,needs to be seen to be done,as well as be done...That cannot happen if we only hear one side of the story....


there is no story and no one is spreading hearsay bir....he wrote everything in a post...

like rolling the forum in a cylindrical shape and shaving it in everyones ass, and then he singles out the admin and offers the same treatment...

he then said this forum is banned from his computer...

so what story exasctly you wanna here?...


I want to see it with my own eyes...Where is that thread and where are those posts??? Why were they deleted without people reading them...They could've been locked just as effectively...I want to hear YFred's story from his own mouth...Why is Admin afraid of letting him put his case???


there is no case to put forward as he posted his case... :lol:

i didn't see it here but read it from google archives....i had the link but it either disappeared or moved elsewhere by google...

anyway the admin should lock this thread...

bir i am sure you can get in touch with freddie and whine together till the cows come home... :lol:
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Postby BirKibrisli » Tue Jun 22, 2010 2:12 pm

boomerang wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
boomerang wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
Sotos wrote:YFred posts were junk! They should also ban Halil. He posts all the Bycrap junk here but when I made a comment at the Bycrap website the message said that it would be reviewed by some administrator first. My message was never published! Freedom of speech my arse! If Bycrap doesn't give freedom of speech to us why should we give freedom of speech to bycrap?

You cannot say "This is my house,I have an open door policy,anybody can come here but I can do anything I like with those who turn up,and nobody can question me!"


He can ;) This is how forums work. Somebody needs to take decisions and who else if not the admin? If we were going to discuss and debate every decision then we would never agree and nothing would be ever done. :lol:


Whether YFred posted junk or not is a very subjective judgement...In this context,it is like one man's terrorist being another's freedom fighter...But that is not the issue here,,,Yfred was not banned because his posts were junk...If people got banned for that reason not many of us will be left here... :wink: And that would be a sure road to sensorship..."I don't like what you are saying,so it is junk...You are banned,Voila!!!"

Admins do have a lot of power,and with that comes a lot of responsibility...People need to be satisfied that justice has been done...In other words,justice,especially natural justice,needs to be seen to be done,as well as be done...That cannot happen if we only hear one side of the story....


there is no story and no one is spreading hearsay bir....he wrote everything in a post...

like rolling the forum in a cylindrical shape and shaving it in everyones ass, and then he singles out the admin and offers the same treatment...

he then said this forum is banned from his computer...

so what story exasctly you wanna here?...


I want to see it with my own eyes...Where is that thread and where are those posts??? Why were they deleted without people reading them...They could've been locked just as effectively...I want to hear YFred's story from his own mouth...Why is Admin afraid of letting him put his case???


there is no case to put forward as he posted his case... :lol:

i didn't see it here but read it from google archives....i had the link but it either disappeared or moved elsewhere by google...

anyway the admin should lock this thread...

bir i am sure you can get in touch with freddie and whine together till the cows come home... :lol:


Yep,lock this thread as well..then delete it...Democracy and freedom of speech GC style...Like it of lump it...great...where do I sign up...??? :roll:
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Postby B25 » Tue Jun 22, 2010 2:16 pm

BirKibrisli wrote:
apc2010 wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
boomerang wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
Sotos wrote:YFred posts were junk! They should also ban Halil. He posts all the Bycrap junk here but when I made a comment at the Bycrap website the message said that it would be reviewed by some administrator first. My message was never published! Freedom of speech my arse! If Bycrap doesn't give freedom of speech to us why should we give freedom of speech to bycrap?

You cannot say "This is my house,I have an open door policy,anybody can come here but I can do anything I like with those who turn up,and nobody can question me!"


He can ;) This is how forums work. Somebody needs to take decisions and who else if not the admin? If we were going to discuss and debate every decision then we would never agree and nothing would be ever done. :lol:


Whether YFred posted junk or not is a very subjective judgement...In this context,it is like one man's terrorist being another's freedom fighter...But that is not the issue here,,,Yfred was not banned because his posts were junk...If people got banned for that reason not many of us will be left here... :wink: And that would be a sure road to sensorship..."I don't like what you are saying,so it is junk...You are banned,Voila!!!"

Admins do have a lot of power,and with that comes a lot of responsibility...People need to be satisfied that justice has been done...In other words,justice,especially natural justice,needs to be seen to be done,as well as be done...That cannot happen if we only hear one side of the story....


there is no story and no one is spreading hearsay bir....he wrote everything in a post...

like rolling the forum in a cylindrical shape and shaving it in everyones ass, and then he singles out the admin and offers the same treatment...

he then said this forum is banned from his computer...

so what story exasctly you wanna here?...


I want to see it with my own eyes...Where is that thread and where are those posts??? Why were they deleted without people reading them...They could've been locked just as effectively...I want to hear YFred's story from his own mouth...Why is Admin afraid of letting him put his case???


I read it ,B25 told you what he said ,what else to you need ...........He is banned for a month , if you are that upset boycott the forum for a month ,
Admin have explained .......


I am practising my right to free speech...Do you have a problem with that??? Is this the kind of "democracy" you guys are proposing...Like it or lump it???? What a joke!!!


No Bir, this is not exercising your right to free speech, this is being a typical turk, my way or no way.

The man has spoken, you just cannot accept the facts that your lot are in the wrong, hmm, this sounds familiar, now, grow up will ya.

You were even luck enough to get some explanation from Admin, so consider yourself lucky, you don't need to harp on about this, there are no medals to be won.
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Jun 22, 2010 2:32 pm

BirKibrisli wrote:I have trouble with the notion "I am Admin,I say and do what I like,nobody can question me or my decisions"

A month's banning should fix that problem... :lol:
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Jun 22, 2010 2:36 pm

DT. wrote:Anyone else getting the feeling that the real admin has retired and the helm's been transffered over to Lana?

Lana would NEVER axe a message/thread! :roll: :lol:

I definitely see a shift from a non-personal male attitude to a much more female touchy-feely situation here.

Which is precisely why I suspect that Yialoser has taken over the reigns... besides, it says so under his avatar! Image
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Postby DT. » Tue Jun 22, 2010 3:04 pm

Get Real! wrote:
DT. wrote:Anyone else getting the feeling that the real admin has retired and the helm's been transffered over to Lana?

Lana would NEVER axe a message/thread! :roll: :lol:

I definitely see a shift from a non-personal male attitude to a much more female touchy-feely situation here.

Which is precisely why I suspect that Yialoser has taken over the reigns... besides, it says so under his avatar! Image


dunno mate :?
My "babe" sense is telling me something's going on....
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Postby Malapapa » Tue Jun 22, 2010 3:14 pm

Svetlana wrote:Dear Oracle, if you wish to be chastised, I am sure there will be several Forum members who would be pleased to oblige :-)


I'd also be pleased to oblige with the soft cushion Oracle would need to sit on, for at least six months afterwards.
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Postby apc2010 » Tue Jun 22, 2010 5:44 pm

BirKibrisli wrote:
apc2010 wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
boomerang wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
Sotos wrote:YFred posts were junk! They should also ban Halil. He posts all the Bycrap junk here but when I made a comment at the Bycrap website the message said that it would be reviewed by some administrator first. My message was never published! Freedom of speech my arse! If Bycrap doesn't give freedom of speech to us why should we give freedom of speech to bycrap?

You cannot say "This is my house,I have an open door policy,anybody can come here but I can do anything I like with those who turn up,and nobody can question me!"


He can ;) This is how forums work. Somebody needs to take decisions and who else if not the admin? If we were going to discuss and debate every decision then we would never agree and nothing would be ever done. :lol:


Whether YFred posted junk or not is a very subjective judgement...In this context,it is like one man's terrorist being another's freedom fighter...But that is not the issue here,,,Yfred was not banned because his posts were junk...If people got banned for that reason not many of us will be left here... :wink: And that would be a sure road to sensorship..."I don't like what you are saying,so it is junk...You are banned,Voila!!!"

Admins do have a lot of power,and with that comes a lot of responsibility...People need to be satisfied that justice has been done...In other words,justice,especially natural justice,needs to be seen to be done,as well as be done...That cannot happen if we only hear one side of the story....


there is no story and no one is spreading hearsay bir....he wrote everything in a post...

like rolling the forum in a cylindrical shape and shaving it in everyones ass, and then he singles out the admin and offers the same treatment...

he then said this forum is banned from his computer...

so what story exasctly you wanna here?...


I want to see it with my own eyes...Where is that thread and where are those posts??? Why were they deleted without people reading them...They could've been locked just as effectively...I want to hear YFred's story from his own mouth...Why is Admin afraid of letting him put his case???


I read it ,B25 told you what he said ,what else to you need ...........He is banned for a month , if you are that upset boycott the forum for a month ,
Admin have explained .......


I am practising my right to free speech...Do you have a problem with that??? Is this the kind of "democracy" you guys are proposing...Like it or lump it???? What a joke!!!


First who are "you guys" , you know nothing about me gender or race , second on a forum you have to bide by the rules ,, we all get away with alot here ,fred crossed the line .................personally I am sick of all these threads .......................
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Postby bill cobbett » Tue Jun 22, 2010 5:56 pm

apc2010 wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
apc2010 wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
boomerang wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
Sotos wrote:YFred posts were junk! They should also ban Halil. He posts all the Bycrap junk here but when I made a comment at the Bycrap website the message said that it would be reviewed by some administrator first. My message was never published! Freedom of speech my arse! If Bycrap doesn't give freedom of speech to us why should we give freedom of speech to bycrap?

You cannot say "This is my house,I have an open door policy,anybody can come here but I can do anything I like with those who turn up,and nobody can question me!"


He can ;) This is how forums work. Somebody needs to take decisions and who else if not the admin? If we were going to discuss and debate every decision then we would never agree and nothing would be ever done. :lol:


Whether YFred posted junk or not is a very subjective judgement...In this context,it is like one man's terrorist being another's freedom fighter...But that is not the issue here,,,Yfred was not banned because his posts were junk...If people got banned for that reason not many of us will be left here... :wink: And that would be a sure road to sensorship..."I don't like what you are saying,so it is junk...You are banned,Voila!!!"

Admins do have a lot of power,and with that comes a lot of responsibility...People need to be satisfied that justice has been done...In other words,justice,especially natural justice,needs to be seen to be done,as well as be done...That cannot happen if we only hear one side of the story....


there is no story and no one is spreading hearsay bir....he wrote everything in a post...

like rolling the forum in a cylindrical shape and shaving it in everyones ass, and then he singles out the admin and offers the same treatment...

he then said this forum is banned from his computer...

so what story exasctly you wanna here?...


I want to see it with my own eyes...Where is that thread and where are those posts??? Why were they deleted without people reading them...They could've been locked just as effectively...I want to hear YFred's story from his own mouth...Why is Admin afraid of letting him put his case???


I read it ,B25 told you what he said ,what else to you need ...........He is banned for a month , if you are that upset boycott the forum for a month ,
Admin have explained .......


I am practising my right to free speech...Do you have a problem with that??? Is this the kind of "democracy" you guys are proposing...Like it or lump it???? What a joke!!!


First who are "you guys" , you know nothing about me gender or race , second on a forum you have to bide by the rules ,, we all get away with alot here ,fred crossed the line .................personally I am sick of all these threads .......................


Yes quite APC, going on a bit and from a weird angle.

Those who wish Freddie well may want to think about leaving things alone, something that may make it easier for him to make his peace with our Admin/Adminness and return to camp.
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