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[MicAtCyp]

so Turkish Cypriots are to blame for the measures against us by the RoC?

Which measures?? Are you referring to what yourselves call an "embargo"?

Well if you chose to become a thief, then go steal some cars and then accuse the whole World that is impossing you "an embargo on sales of stolen cars". You know what they would tell you? "ARE YOU CRAZY MAN?"

[MicAtCyp]

Turkish planes were bombing innocent peoples in centre of population?
I don't think so!

They were bombing every large building, like hospitals don't you know that? The first one who paid the price were the patients at the psychiatric hospital(=crazy people) at Athalassa.Some of them got cured after that!! Ha,ha,ha.But most of them died.
They were bombing and machine gunning cues of cars of refugees etc etc.A refugee classmate of mine described me how the war plane was sweing everything in his village and he saw the wooden electricity pole next to him getting cut... He could see the bullets making a line on the ground and killing people in his village.
But yes it is a fact they were throwing their bombs randomely everywhere you can imagine.Go have a look at Famagusta to see the bombed hotels.It was likewise everywhere.
They had an organised plan to bomb GC villages until each and every GC would leave.Preparing the ground for ‘your superior race" to settle in a CLEAN North.

May be... It's possible!

In 1967 while Turkey was ready to sail for Cyprus Russia stoped an Invasion by declaring publicly that if Turkey invades they will not stay inacted.The Americans told the Turks sit quiet...

[MicAtCyp]

maybe we are talking about different times, my guess is that you are talking about situation since 1974. I was talking about the actions before that period when you say 'Turkey and Taksim leaders were doing everything they could to make you suffer inside Cyprus'. Perhaps you are not aware of the actions of te RoC against the Turkish Cypriot community before 1974. Perhaps you think problem started on July 20, 1974.

No! I do admit that the TCs were living in a reign of terror from 1963-74 most of it (80%) coming from GC fanatics and the rest of it from your own TMTs and nationalists.And not only that the TCs had a lot of innocent people killed or missing with no reason.I know the Eokas were entering the villages and after they were done with the human beings they would throw the "Turkish" chicken up and shoot them in the air for fun.I know the ones in charge were ordering "Don't even leave their cats alive Reeeeeee". I don't need lessons in this respect....

I hope you also know that every TC village had a mainland Turkish militant in charge preparing the ground for taksim before 1974 don't you?
Me and my father just escaped death in the Kyrenia enclave (in 1972) from the 2 sons of a TC friend of my father.See they were TMT officials and didn’t like seeing GCs in their areas.Despite the fact that their father told my father "as long I am present don't be afraid".

In summary yes I can understand very well the suffering of the TC people from 1963 upto 1974 from our Eokas and fanatics (our suffering from your TMTs and Turkish Air attacs of that period was much less), and I can also understand their suffering from 1974 until today from the Turkish Militants and the isolation it brought them. In fact I am sad because A PART OF MY OWN PEOPLE i.e the TCs and the GC refugess suffered and continue to suffer....

[mehmet]

[quote="MicAtCyp"]
I hope you also know that every TC village had a mainland Turkish militant in charge preparing the ground for taksim before 1974 don't you?

No but I wouldn't be surprised. I found what you wrote to be both interesting and moving. For those of us who were born outside Cyprus or after the events of 1974 it is hard to understand what it was like, all we have is books and personal testimonies like yours. It would be only too easy to only recollect bad things that happen to your own community, thank you for being honest enough to tell both sides of the story.

[insan]

I hope you also know that every TC village had a mainland Turkish militant in charge preparing the ground for taksim before 1974 don't you?

That's true my brother MicAtCyp... From the first day Makarios proposed the 13 points of ammendments both Kucuk and Denktash had begun to talk about Taksim, which they were thinking it's the only way for two communities in Cyprus to live in peace...

At a superficial view point it was right in those days but also was a good excuse for Taksim Their only aim wasn't to protect TCs who were living in mixed willages or under danger of EOKA attacks. Taksim would also serve Turkeys geo-political interests...


The struggle of both communities was going according to two different plans... One was official which was being implemented according to treaties, laws and US policies by official parties and the other one was unofficial which was being implemented according to unofficial and illegal Akritas/Taksim plans by unofficial parties e.g EOKA, TMT, cadres, some politicians, their backers etc ...


Once Klerides, as far as I remeber last year in M.Ali Birand interview stated that Akritas Plan was something to put into action in case if TCs gain support to achieve Taksim. He said that it was a plan that we will do this and that to first make constutition fair and workable then annex Greece... and if TCs do this and that for retaliation; we will do this and that in order to surpass to them and achieve our goals...