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[PEACE]

Defending the country from what? Turkey is a quarantor !

From something which was clearly an invasion.

I think Turkey in that time must punish the terrorists and after establishing constitutional order and security it must decrease its soldiers to 650 !

No it must remove all the soldiers and we will do the same

From invasion? No,that time Turkey's intervention was lawful and was a humanist help to stop terrorism in Cyprus.I'm not talking about after.

Turkey can't remove all her soldiers because 1960 Agreements says that there will be 650 Turkish soldiers.Don't you know 1960 Agreements or what?

So,after intervention and supply of security in Cyprus she should decrease her soldiers to 650! I'm talking about not now but what had Turkey done and what should be done!

[X-ite]

From invasion? No,that time Turkey's intervention was lawful and was a humanist help to stop terrorism in Cyprus.I'm not talking about after.

Yes but Turkey her rights of intervention to invade Cyprus again and everybody stood by and watched ( well, those who didn't help ). Why should we trust Turkey again? You might say what are we supposed to do put our hand on the Koran and swear? No, Cyprus is now a member of the EU, the police and the UNFICYP would be enough to keep order. Remember we are answerable to the EU and nothing will be done to you by the Greek Cypriots. But Turkey is not answerable to anyone. If anything happens between Greek Cypriots and Turkish Cypriots it would be in everyone's interests that it is put down immediately ( by the police and the UN )so the violence doesn't spread. But Turkey can use that to intervene again with consequences which will be far worse than two bleeding noses.
This is a very possible scenario, so if it does happen who will stop it?

[mehmet]

if Turkey becomes a member of the EU does this change your view?

[X-ite]

if Turkey becomes a member of the EU does this change your view?

Totally, Turkey will have to abide by EU rules.

[MicAtCyp]

Peace said "....From invasion? No,that time Turkey's intervention was lawful and was a humanist help to stop terrorism in Cyprus....."

Really? And what were the Turkish war planes bombing us with, humanistic rose water or Napalm bombs?

And for your information Turkey was planning to invade long long before 1974. Was just waiting for the right excuse.And the TCs were always dreaming for the day that they would see the Turkish planes in the sky and the Invading ships in the sea. Turkey and your Taksim leaders were doing everything they could to make you suffer inside the Cyprus Republic and think that Turkey would come to liberate you. Too bad you realised the truth after you have already fallen into the trap of 1974.The problem is, WHO IS GOING TO LIBERATE YOU FROM YOUR "LIBERATORS" NOW?

[mehmet]

so Turkish Cypriots are to blame for the measures against us by the RoC?

[PEACE]

Peace said "....From invasion? No,that time Turkey's intervention was lawful and was a humanist help to stop terrorism in Cyprus....."

Really? And what were the Turkish war planes bombing us with, humanistic rose water or Napalm bombs?

Turkish planes were bombing innocent peoples in centre of population?
I don't think so!

And for your information Turkey was planning to invade long long before 1974. Was just waiting for the right excuse.

May be... It's possible!

[X-ite]

And for your information Turkey was planning to invade long long before 1974. Was just waiting for the right excuse.

May be... It's possible!

Yes you were, for a very long time.

The decision to create TMT was taken at the highest levels of the Turkish Menderes Government in Ankara. While facing mounting pressure from public opinion, the Turkish Government decided to use the Cyprus question as a diversion to keep the Turkish military quiet, an ever present factor in Turkish politics: that is how TMT was conceived. TMT fighters were trained, armed and led by a small group of well-disciplined Turkish officers. It established cells in towns and villages throughout Cyprus, and it selected personnel who were to be sent to Turkey for military training. It was also to become the organisational tool through which the geo-political partitionist policy of Turkey was to be enforced in Cyprus. It was a policy which aimed at segregating the Turkish and Greek Cypriots from each other as a prelude to the physical division of the island.

During the course of 1957, TMT pressured the Turkish Cypriots into withdrawing from any co-operative ties they had with the Greek Cypriots and, on the whole, they were successful; this policy later became known as the `from Turk to Turk policy’. Such encouragement was entirely alien to the co-operation and quiet existence which had always prevailed between Greek and Turkish Cypriots, but was necessary to sow the seeds of partition. A similar policy was followed in Istanbul, organised by the Turkish National Student Federation, which had worked closely with Kibris Turktur in its planning of the anti-Greek riots there back in 1955.

[MicAtCyp]

so Turkish Cypriots are to blame for the measures against us by the RoC?

Which measures?? Are you referring to what yourselves call an "embargo"?

Well if you chose to become a thief, then go steal some cars and then accuse the whole World that is impossing you "an embargo on sales of stolen cars". You know what they would tell you? "ARE YOU CRAZY MAN?"

[mehmet]

maybe we are talking about different times, my guess is that you are talking about situation since 1974. I was talking about the actions before that period when you say 'Turkey and Taksim leaders were doing everything they could to make you suffer inside Cyprus'. Perhaps you are not aware of the actions of te RoC against the Turkish Cypriot community before 1974. Perhaps you think problem started on July 20, 1974.