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[DTA]

I suggest that it would be better to be on this forum for more than 10 seconds before attacking a respected poster like bir.

I have been monitoring your post without replying, I to am a dreamer that ideally would like us all just to be brothers but my dreams are mixed in with the realities that are undisputable.

You articulate the these dreams or quazi visions of unity without offering any real tangable ways to make to those dreams become a reality.

And that is what bir has called you out on. Also it seems that most of your research about the cp is done through books which is not always a bad thing, but you seem to only post things which are one sided, and myopic which is very much a bad thing.

Take your post on the TMT; who yes done wrong within the tc community but this was far outweighed by the right that they did do for us. I suggest that you speak to some tcs that were around at the time to form a more balanced view.

To dream is nice, but let's see you starting offering real tangible ways to bring our two communities together and compromisses to these ends, then let's see if your dreams can become real even on a message board.

You've been monitoring but your too superior intellectually to respond. Instead you only address me when I complain about your friend. Could it be you are the same person or part of a small network of dim wits whose goal is to keep drilling the idea that Cypriots need partition?????

You are not falling anybody...

Dim wits??? You arrogrant dick head. I have no problem with your views in fact all I have said is that you tell us how you expect them to come about? Let's here the compromises that will be made by each side? Let's see how will merge two cultures that have been seperate for 40 years in to one?

Put up or shut up.

[BirKibrisli]

Don't expect any concrete answers from our friend,"Omer Seyhan"...
He is a slimy character whose specialty is insulting people who question his ideas or ideals...He obviously believes that by insulting one side of the disputing parties you will get them to give in to his intangible,unspecific,difficult to understand method of solving our little problem...He keeps reinventing the wheel,and going around in circles...

[DTA]

"Then build a cement wall and keep these gypsies on the north side of it."

With this you demonstrate why we can not live together.

Telling me I must compromise fundamental democratic and HR rights certainly convinces me that we are not compatible.

I will never live or expose my family to this! Therefore, you gypsies can just keep away!

no problem then we will just keep the 37% and you can build that wall as high as you want. Bye bye.

That's what you want anyway and everybody can see it....

that is my problem with people like you, anyone who disagrees with you is a partitiionist.

All I want you to tell us what is needed to make your vision a reality, what is wrong with that.

As a matter of fact that is not my ideal option because the gc have lost as well and it is right that the tcs make compromises. Both gcs and tc need to make compromises, so what are the compromises which needs to be made?

[Omer Seyhan]

I'm beginning to think BirKibrisli, DTA, Insan are the same person....

There is a trend I am noticing here - all three as if pre-planned say I am utopian, that I do not provide a step by step method (not a requirement for having a view on Cyprus but a reason for them to call me utopian again) and all of them seem very angry towards my posts when they could counter-argue them or ignore them. Why is it that my opinion, whether utopian or non-utopian, bothers them so much....?

If its not your cup of tea then you are not obliged to engage in a dialogue with me....

There is no other conclusion I can reach other than to suggest with great sadness that this trio (perhaps there are more) are part of a small network of idiots who live thousands of miles away from Cyprus whose mission is to prove Cypriots cannot live together here so that anybody reading posts on this forum will say, "Cyprus is best divided." Their aim is to shit-stir so Turkish Cypriots and Greek Cypriots here will turn against unity too.

[Get Real!]

I'm beginning to think BirKibrisli, DTA, Insan are the same person....

Omer you’re starting to get paranoid!

If you‘ve got a political message/s to convey on the forum then go ahead and do so, but don’t bog down with details of individual members because it’ll just derail your thoughts and waste your time.

[Omer Seyhan]

"Then build a cement wall and keep these gypsies on the north side of it."

With this you demonstrate why we can not live together.

Telling me I must compromise fundamental democratic and HR rights certainly convinces me that we are not compatible.

I will never live or expose my family to this! Therefore, you gypsies can just keep away!

no problem then we will just keep the 37% and you can build that wall as high as you want. Bye bye.

That's what you want anyway and everybody can see it....

that is my problem with people like you, anyone who disagrees with you is a partitiionist.

All I want you to tell us what is needed to make your vision a reality, what is wrong with that.

As a matter of fact that is not my ideal option because the gc have lost as well and it is right that the tcs make compromises. Both gcs and tc need to make compromises, so what are the compromises which needs to be made?

You are clearly part of a network of trouble-makers. Why is it a requirement for any poster here to provide you with a step by step guide to solving the Cyprus problem. I am expressing my ideas and I have a right to do so.

I addressed your invitation elsewhere. I said that I seek a philosophical change in Cypriots, I am not a politician or negotiator and I dont need to wait for politicians to start to promote the idea of unity. Its bottom up not top bottom that I am proposing. People power......?

You are asking me to "do something" or to "suggest a plan of political action" - are you inviting me to become a candidate or to form my own political party? Is this what you want?

Tell your network of friends (some of whom I'm sure post in other forums I have spotted) that if you push me too far it might just backfire on all of you. Do you want to see a real Cypriot National Unity Party.....?

[Omer Seyhan]

I'm beginning to think BirKibrisli, DTA, Insan are the same person....

Omer you’re starting to get paranoid!

If you‘ve got a political message/s to convey on the forum then go ahead and do so, but don’t bog down with details of individual members because it’ll just derail your thoughts and waste your time.

I'll keep putting out my political messages more and more, they have made me even more determined.

But I will also expose them because I know some Turkish Cypriot nationalists who have a habit of doing this and who have even told me they do this.

[Get Real!]

You are clearly part of a network of trouble-makers.

The axis of evil!

[Omer Seyhan]

You are clearly part of a network of trouble-makers.

The axis of evil!

Perhaps, but I don't know if it is just the three of them...there could be more here.

Like I said, I know nationalists Turkish Cypriots who openly told me that they engage in this activity.

[DTA]

Omer I am not going to question your Turkish because quite frankly it is better than mine. But I am interested to find out how much time you spend in the trnc and with tcs.

But that as an aside. Ok let us have a sencible discussion

1 do you think that in order to reach a position of Cypriot nationalism that both the tcs and gcs have to feel part of a singular cypriot culture?