Omer Seyhan wrote:BirKibrisli wrote:Omer Seyhan wrote:BirKibrisli wrote:Okey,sunshine...Before you disappear again only to return with more bullshit and selfstimulating comments ( ) here is a challenge for you... You keep talking about Cypriot nationalism,but you are very short on detail...Perhaps you can show us, step by step, how your Cypriot nationalism will help us move one centimetre towards a solution,given the mutual mistrust and suspicion that exist between the TCs and GCs, out there, in the real world....I am all eyes and ears...
Ok, challenge accepted ( I thought I was doing this anyway in my posts).
I don't really talk about Cypriot nationalism though. Just let me correct you. My method is Liberal or civic nationalism, which is ultimately citizenship.
*** Liberal nationalism is a kind of nationalism identified by political philosophers who believe in a non-xenophobic form of nationalism compatible with liberal values of freedom, tolerance, equality, and individual rights. Ernest Renan and John Stuart Mill are often thought to be early liberal nationalists. Liberal nationalists often defend the value of national identity by saying that individuals need a national identity in order to lead meaningful, autonomous lives and that liberal democratic polities need national identity in order to function properly.
On a last note, I really can't commit to not disappearing again, when duty calls I have to go... I hope you understand.
Okey,"Omer"...We have established that you are an idealist and a dreamer...There is nothing wrong with either...I have been accused of both in the past...Of course people need a national identity and a sense of belonging to be happy and well adjusted individuals and groups,we don't need Renan or Mill to tell us that...But how can you develop a national identity or sense of belonging when you are told you cannot be Cypriots but Ottoman remnants,and get accused of leaving your ancestral lands at the drop of a hat,to pave the way of Turkey's territorial ambitions...???
Anyway,you are right in what you said elsewhere,we cannot do much to change anything in Forums like this...The best we can hope for is to let people know we are just like they are,flesh and blood that feels and hurts very much like themselves...Given our realilty,the demonisation of the "other" for so long,it would be something if we can achieve even that...
Most people.myself included use this forum as therapy...We get our frustrations and our anger out on each other,knowing well we are all helpless victims of international geopolitical power plays which have been going on for a very very long time,and have no intention of stopping...
Ok, you keep telling me you get rejected by greek speaking Cypriots. I dont know how Australian Greek speaking Cypriots are but here is an idea.
If you are not allowed to take part in your local Cypriot association or if they present it as Greek speaking only then do the following.
Get a website and designer to design it professionally. I dont know where you live, but you can call it in Turkish for example:
Avustralya Kıbrıslılar Ulusal Birlik Federasyonu (AKUBF) or
The Australian Cypriot National Unity Federation
or
Avustralya Kıbrıslılar Milli Federasyonu (AMKF)
National Federation of Australian Cypriots
And this should be your logo:
You should then organise a trip with school children to meet the High Commissioner of Cyprus in Canberra, bring a gift, a book by Sevgul Uludag or Osman Turkey, ask the children to read poems, hold flags of the RoC and present him with flowers, and invite him to visit he association next time he is in ......wherever you live. You could bring a camera crew.
Then tell him that it is your intention to apply for funding from your Government to provide services to Australia's Turkish speaking Cypriot community who are citizens of the Republic.
Tell him your first event idea is a poetry evening by Nese Yashin and you need AU$2500 to fly her over and set it up.
Tell him you want to organise a Cypriot festival with other Cypriot (Greek and Turkish speaking organisations) and ask him to have a word / put pressure on those who rejected you.
Tell him, you are Cypriot and proud of it, shake his hand and leave quietly remembering to shake hands with the secretary on the way out.
this is good!