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[wyoming cowboy]

“The political equality of the two communities in and the bi-communal nature of the federation need to be acknowledged. While political equality does not mean equal numerical participation in all federal government branches and administration, it should be reflected inter alia in various ways: in the requirement that the federal constitution of the State of Cyprus be approved or amended with the concurrence of both communities; in the effective participation of both communities in all organs and decisions of the federal Government in safeguards to ensure that the federal Government will not be empowered to adopt any measures against the interests of one community; and in the equality and identical powers and functions of the two federated States.” “The bi-zonality of the federation should be clearly brought out by the fact that each federated State will be administered by one community which will be firmly guaranteed a clear majority of the population and of the land ownership in its area.” (S/21183 Effective participation doesnt mean the Tc would be able to veto any thing they want

[insan]

“The political equality of the two communities in and the bi-communal nature of the federation need to be acknowledged. While political equality does not mean equal numerical participation in all federal government branches and administration, it should be reflected inter alia in various ways: in the requirement that the federal constitution of the State of Cyprus be approved or amended with the concurrence of both communities; in the effective participation of both communities in all organs and decisions of the federal Government in safeguards to ensure that the federal Government will not be empowered to adopt any measures against the interests of one community; and in the equality and identical powers and functions of the two federated States.” “The bi-zonality of the federation should be clearly brought out by the fact that each federated State will be administered by one community which will be firmly guaranteed a clear majority of the population and of the land ownership in its area.” (S/21183 Effective participation doesnt mean the Tc would be able to veto any thing they want

... and vice versa of course... or does it mean GCs would be able to veto anything they want? Oh i forgot that the GCs r always the angels and TCs the evils...

[denizaksulu]

Well have shown Mahatma Ghandhi to be a fascist b'stard with my libertarian and loose morals...

http://www.politicalcompass.org/printab ... &soc=-7.74

This is what bill would look like if he were to straighten his curls and grow a beard....

Blasfemy, blasphemy, I will write a Ferman for your extinction.

[Malapapa]

“The political equality of the two communities in and the bi-communal nature of the federation need to be acknowledged. While political equality does not mean equal numerical participation in all federal government branches and administration, it should be reflected inter alia in various ways: in the requirement that the federal constitution of the State of Cyprus be approved or amended with the concurrence of both communities; in the effective participation of both communities in all organs and decisions of the federal Government in safeguards to ensure that the federal Government will not be empowered to adopt any measures against the interests of one community; and in the equality and identical powers and functions of the two federated States.” “The bi-zonality of the federation should be clearly brought out by the fact that each federated State will be administered by one community which will be firmly guaranteed a clear majority of the population and of the land ownership in its area.” (S/21183 Effective participation doesnt mean the Tc would be able to veto any thing they want

... and vice versa of course... or does it mean GCs would be able to veto anything they want? Oh i forgot that the GCs r always the angels and TCs the evils...

I see the village idiot position created by the vacant YFred is being expertly filled by an equally vacant insan.

[insan]

“The political equality of the two communities in and the bi-communal nature of the federation need to be acknowledged. While political equality does not mean equal numerical participation in all federal government branches and administration, it should be reflected inter alia in various ways: in the requirement that the federal constitution of the State of Cyprus be approved or amended with the concurrence of both communities; in the effective participation of both communities in all organs and decisions of the federal Government in safeguards to ensure that the federal Government will not be empowered to adopt any measures against the interests of one community; and in the equality and identical powers and functions of the two federated States.” “The bi-zonality of the federation should be clearly brought out by the fact that each federated State will be administered by one community which will be firmly guaranteed a clear majority of the population and of the land ownership in its area.” (S/21183 Effective participation doesnt mean the Tc would be able to veto any thing they want

... and vice versa of course... or does it mean GCs would be able to veto anything they want? Oh i forgot that the GCs r always the angels and TCs the evils...

I see the village idiot position created by the vacant YFred is being expertly filled by an equally vacant insan.

hassikdir lan!

[Malapapa]

Here's a trick I used to play on Fredogomio...

insan, there's a fly on your nose.

[insan]

Here's a trick I used to play on Fredogomio...

insan, there's a fly on your nose.

You are a killjoy that contribute nothing but a lots of galimatias... when i need some entertainment, i'll call you to entertainment section... though you are a very bad joker!

[denizaksulu]

“The political equality of the two communities in and the bi-communal nature of the federation need to be acknowledged. While political equality does not mean equal numerical participation in all federal government branches and administration, it should be reflected inter alia in various ways: in the requirement that the federal constitution of the State of Cyprus be approved or amended with the concurrence of both communities; in the effective participation of both communities in all organs and decisions of the federal Government in safeguards to ensure that the federal Government will not be empowered to adopt any measures against the interests of one community; and in the equality and identical powers and functions of the two federated States.” “The bi-zonality of the federation should be clearly brought out by the fact that each federated State will be administered by one community which will be firmly guaranteed a clear majority of the population and of the land ownership in its area.” (S/21183 Effective participation doesnt mean the Tc would be able to veto any thing they want

... and vice versa of course... or does it mean GCs would be able to veto anything they want? Oh i forgot that the GCs r always the angels and TCs the evils...

I see the village idiot position created by the vacant YFred is being expertly filled by an equally vacant insan.

May I remind you of rule one of the Cyprus Forum:

"Personal attacks are not allowed - Don't attack others. Personal attacks on others will not be tolerated. Challenge others' points of view and opinions, but do so respectfully and thoughtfully without insult and personal attack."

[Malapapa]

“The political equality of the two communities in and the bi-communal nature of the federation need to be acknowledged. While political equality does not mean equal numerical participation in all federal government branches and administration, it should be reflected inter alia in various ways: in the requirement that the federal constitution of the State of Cyprus be approved or amended with the concurrence of both communities; in the effective participation of both communities in all organs and decisions of the federal Government in safeguards to ensure that the federal Government will not be empowered to adopt any measures against the interests of one community; and in the equality and identical powers and functions of the two federated States.” “The bi-zonality of the federation should be clearly brought out by the fact that each federated State will be administered by one community which will be firmly guaranteed a clear majority of the population and of the land ownership in its area.” (S/21183 Effective participation doesnt mean the Tc would be able to veto any thing they want

... and vice versa of course... or does it mean GCs would be able to veto anything they want? Oh i forgot that the GCs r always the angels and TCs the evils...

I see the village idiot position created by the vacant YFred is being expertly filled by an equally vacant insan.

May I remind you of rule one of the Cyprus Forum:

"Personal attacks are not allowed - Don't attack others. Personal attacks on others will not be tolerated. Challenge others' points of view and opinions, but do so respectfully and thoughtfully without insult and personal attack."

Who rattled your cage?

[Piratis]

Pro-Unity Cypriot Nationalist 7%
Pro-Unity Cypriot Conservative 14%
Pro-Unity Cypriot Liberal 7%
Pro-Unity Cypriot Social Democrat 14%
Pro-Unity Cypriot Communist 7%
Pro-Unity Cypriot Anarchist 7%
Pro-Unity Cypriot (other) 7%

Total: 65%

Cypriot Unionists are in a majority it seems - we are all from diverse backgrounds. But combined we make 65% so far.

I think this means we need a national unity approach rather than a partisan one...

Ask Greek speaking Cypriots what unity means to them, they will tell you "A Cyprus that Greek speaking 'Cypriots' rule and Turkish speaking 'Cypriots' were given minority rights, just like what Turkish speaking 'Greeks' have in Greece...

Is that what you too want Ömer? If it is not, than you are a partitionist in eyes of overwhelming majority of Greek speaking(Hellenic minded) "Cypriots" who aspire to erase anything Turkish on this island... Without political equality of two communities as it was envisaged in UN, a so-called unity in any form which would degrade TCs into a minority status is not acceptable for overwhelming majority of TCs...

The most basic parameter of unity is unity on historical facts regarding the people of Cyprus...

There are two, almost totally opposite version of Cyprus history that have been taught to "Cypriots" for hundreds of years... In a so-called democratic Cyprus, Turkish speaking "Cypriots" would be doomed to accept the GC version of history... why? Because majority rule... This is what GCs call democracy...

Most probably, this is what Ömer too call as democracy and unity... Shortly, the Greek speakers rule, Turkish speakers obey... It sounds very cool to the ears of Greek speaking "Cypriots" but not for the Turkish speaking "Cypriots"...

Ömer, can you tell us a little what your opinions r about the political equality of two communities? As it was envisaged in UN resolutions or different?

TCs are a minority like every other ethnic minority in every other country. Majority rule is not "so called democracy". Majority rule is what democracy is all about. What we call democracy is what everyone calls democracy. Or maybe in Turkey they ask for the separate aproval of every minority in order to take a decision? I don't think so.

TCs can have the 100% of their human and minority rights and they can be equal citizens like every other, but they have no right to deny democracy to the Cypriot people just because it doesn't suit them.