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[YFred]

Question regarding the Larnaca Airport....

A government can use a PRIVATE land to BUILD PUBLIC FACILITIES (airports, parks etc...) whatever the situation!!!

That is what i know, but i need to find the excact documents to prove the point

If it was an roc decision I would agree, but it has not been since 1963. Unfortunately it was GRoC that made those decisions and it is as null and void as TRNC decisions. TCs will accept nothing less. If you accept those as being legitimate then TRNC is just as. These negotiations are proving and will finally prove that exact point.

One is a government representing the island and the other is an illegal regime.

Don't be daft.

Who is being daft. Has roc been ok since 1963? Just because it is legitimate does that make it right? So was the Third Reich.

If you are happy with that then you are happy with status quo.

Just because it is legitimate does that make it right?

So then, 6 million deaths were carried out under legitimate Third Reich.
The Armenian genocide was also carried out under legitimate Ottoman government.

They must all be beyond reproach then?

Back to school.

I was going to say you have a strange sense of humour but you don't and that's the only funny aspect to this conversation.

[DT.]

Question regarding the Larnaca Airport....

A government can use a PRIVATE land to BUILD PUBLIC FACILITIES (airports, parks etc...) whatever the situation!!!

That is what i know, but i need to find the excact documents to prove the point

If it was an roc decision I would agree, but it has not been since 1963. Unfortunately it was GRoC that made those decisions and it is as null and void as TRNC decisions. TCs will accept nothing less. If you accept those as being legitimate then TRNC is just as. These negotiations are proving and will finally prove that exact point.

One is a government representing the island and the other is an illegal regime.

Don't be daft.

Who is being daft. Has roc been ok since 1963? Just because it is legitimate does that make it right? So was the Third Reich.

If you are happy with that then you are happy with status quo.

Just because it is legitimate does that make it right?

So then, 6 million deaths were carried out under legitimate Third Reich.
The Armenian genocide was also carried out under legitimate Ottoman government.

They must all be beyond reproach then?

Back to school.

I was going to say you have a strange sense of humour but you don't and that's the only funny aspect to this conversation.

I promised myself i wouldn't debate with fruitcakes anymore but I'll make an exception for your educational needs. This is what you quoted:

If it was an roc decision I would agree, but it has not been since 1963. Unfortunately it was GRoC that made those decisions and it is as null and void as TRNC decisions. TCs will accept nothing less. If you accept those as being legitimate then TRNC is just as. These negotiations are proving and will finally prove that exact point

You then admitted that the ROC is legitimate.

Now you do the math.

[BirKibrisli]

Question regarding the Larnaca Airport....

A government can use a PRIVATE land to BUILD PUBLIC FACILITIES (airports, parks etc...) whatever the situation!!!

That is what i know, but i need to find the excact documents to prove the point

If it was an roc decision I would agree, but it has not been since 1963. Unfortunately it was GRoC that made those decisions and it is as null and void as TRNC decisions. TCs will accept nothing less. If you accept those as being legitimate then TRNC is just as. These negotiations are proving and will finally prove that exact point.

One is a government representing the island and the other is an illegal regime.

Don't be daft.

You know what YFred is saying though,DT...
RoC might be a legitimate government in the eyes of the world. In TC eyes it is a pirated state lacking moral fibre...If you can't understand why the TCs feel that way, you are the one who is being daft...

[DT.]

Question regarding the Larnaca Airport....

A government can use a PRIVATE land to BUILD PUBLIC FACILITIES (airports, parks etc...) whatever the situation!!!

That is what i know, but i need to find the excact documents to prove the point

If it was an roc decision I would agree, but it has not been since 1963. Unfortunately it was GRoC that made those decisions and it is as null and void as TRNC decisions. TCs will accept nothing less. If you accept those as being legitimate then TRNC is just as. These negotiations are proving and will finally prove that exact point.

One is a government representing the island and the other is an illegal regime.

Don't be daft.

You know what YFred is saying though,DT...
RoC might be a legitimate government in the eyes of the world. In TC eyes it is a pirated state lacking moral fibre...If you can't understand why the TCs feel that way, you are the one who is being daft...

I also "feel" many things Bir. I'm a big boy however and I have to go by how the world works, both in my business and my life.

The fact that you are disagreeing with me calling Yfred daft is an eye opener though.

[YFred]

Question regarding the Larnaca Airport....

A government can use a PRIVATE land to BUILD PUBLIC FACILITIES (airports, parks etc...) whatever the situation!!!

That is what i know, but i need to find the excact documents to prove the point

If it was an roc decision I would agree, but it has not been since 1963. Unfortunately it was GRoC that made those decisions and it is as null and void as TRNC decisions. TCs will accept nothing less. If you accept those as being legitimate then TRNC is just as. These negotiations are proving and will finally prove that exact point.

One is a government representing the island and the other is an illegal regime.

Don't be daft.

You know what YFred is saying though,DT...
RoC might be a legitimate government in the eyes of the world. In TC eyes it is a pirated state lacking moral fibre...If you can't understand why the TCs feel that way, you are the one who is being daft...

I also "feel" many things Bir. I'm a big boy however and I have to go by how the world works, both in my business and my life.

The fact that you are disagreeing with me calling Yfred daft is an eye opener though.

I can only say I am so glad your eyes are finally opened. But I do feel you are practicing certain amount of eyes wide shut practices on the forum. Perhaps Eyes not open may work better for you.

[Nikitas]

Wait till after the meeting to get one of those cryptic statements that tell you nothing. Then tomorrow you can read the leaked information in various papers and hear them on the radio. Then more meetings and more cryptic statements and we will be kept in the dark till the publication of the "plan".

This one needs total openness from the start. Secret diplomacy on the properties issue is a recipe for failure.

[YFred]

Question regarding the Larnaca Airport....

A government can use a PRIVATE land to BUILD PUBLIC FACILITIES (airports, parks etc...) whatever the situation!!!

That is what i know, but i need to find the excact documents to prove the point

If it was an roc decision I would agree, but it has not been since 1963. Unfortunately it was GRoC that made those decisions and it is as null and void as TRNC decisions. TCs will accept nothing less. If you accept those as being legitimate then TRNC is just as. These negotiations are proving and will finally prove that exact point.

One is a government representing the island and the other is an illegal regime.

Don't be daft.

You know what YFred is saying though,DT...
RoC might be a legitimate government in the eyes of the world. In TC eyes it is a pirated state lacking moral fibre...If you can't understand why the TCs feel that way, you are the one who is being daft...

I also "feel" many things Bir. I'm a big boy however and I have to go by how the world works, both in my business and my life.

The fact that you are disagreeing with me calling Yfred daft is an eye opener though.

I would have though you would know by now that bullying tactics and name calling don't work with me.

It only makes you look more stupid. If only I could tell you what your friends are telling me about you in their PMs?
But you know forum etticate and all that?

How is the drinking problem DT, is it contained yet. Once it is contained, that is the road to recovery, you know that don't you?

But of course there is a host of psychological issues to deal with after that, so some time to go yet then.

[BirKibrisli]

Question regarding the Larnaca Airport....

A government can use a PRIVATE land to BUILD PUBLIC FACILITIES (airports, parks etc...) whatever the situation!!!

That is what i know, but i need to find the excact documents to prove the point

If it was an roc decision I would agree, but it has not been since 1963. Unfortunately it was GRoC that made those decisions and it is as null and void as TRNC decisions. TCs will accept nothing less. If you accept those as being legitimate then TRNC is just as. These negotiations are proving and will finally prove that exact point.

One is a government representing the island and the other is an illegal regime.

Don't be daft.

You know what YFred is saying though,DT...
RoC might be a legitimate government in the eyes of the world. In TC eyes it is a pirated state lacking moral fibre...If you can't understand why the TCs feel that way, you are the one who is being daft...

I also "feel" many things Bir. I'm a big boy however and I have to go by how the world works, both in my business and my life.

The fact that you are disagreeing with me calling Yfred daft is an eye opener though.

The fact that YFred tells you things you don't want to hear does not make him daft...You are at a crossroads now,DT...You either believe the official GC propaganda line that the TCs walked out of government because TMT told them so,or believe that they left in fear of their lives,and the fear was real...I know which one I believe and which one YFred believes...And we both lived through those heady days...Now you tell us which version you believe,and we shall see if there is any point to keep talking to each other...

[Nikitas]

The properties issue is interlinked with the territory question. The higher the percentage of territory returned to GC administration the easier the solution of the properties issue will be.

Anyone know if the title "properties" also covers territory?

In the territory question there is a huge danger involving the British bases. If we do not specify from the start that the bases lie on GC territory we will have a huge problem in the future. Anyone who does not see this should not be trusted to negotiate anything, let alone the future of a country. The fact that this has never been discussed in the past, and is not being discussed now (apparently), is indicative of the caliber of the negotiators on both sides.

[BirKibrisli]

Nikitas,didn't Britain say they would be willing to hand back one of the bases if that would help find a solution??? Perhaps this is the right time to talk about the future of the so-called British Sovereign areas,don't you think???