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[YFred]

Halil

Unfortunately, I think you are broadly right.

This is the sad outcome of Christofias's decision to scrap the 8th July agreement (which offered protection against precisely this scenario) and effectively corner the GC side into negotiating on the basis of "UN parameters" aka the Annan plan.

It looks like we are heading towards another 2004, as the solution currently being negotiated simply cannot pass a GC referendum. This second NO by GCs (especially if at referendum) will bring the occupied areas' status closer to that of Taiwan.

The best Christofias can do at this stage is to try and secure more land in return for more sovereignty i.e. grant TCs near-sovereign status with only the absolute minimum required functions for the central government in return for the TC state having an area of say 22%. Such a solution may have a chance of passing at both sides.

Tony, in the past 25% has been offered and was refused, why on earth would the TCs accept any less now.
27% is reasonable with all the GCs who wish to return to return to their lands and all to have one of three choices. Restitution with return or without or compensation only. You can't ask fairer than that.

[Get Real!]

Tony, in the past 25% has been offered and was refused, why on earth would the TCs accept any less now.

Where did you get that from? “Turkish Cypriot” barbeque newspapers by any chance?

27% is reasonable with all the GCs who wish to return to return to their lands and all to have one of three choices. Restitution with return or without or compensation only. You can't ask fairer than that.

If you only owned 12.3% then you should only get 12.3%, or we’ll wait till the time is right and you’ll get 0% and a good kick up the arse… which is my preferred method of solving the problem because I know very well what garbage most “Turkish Cypriots” are!

[YFred]

Tony, in the past 25% has been offered and was refused, why on earth would the TCs accept any less now.

Where did you get that from? “Turkish Cypriot” barbeque newspapers by any chance?

27% is reasonable with all the GCs who wish to return to return to their lands and all to have one of three choices. Restitution with return or without or compensation only. You can't ask fairer than that.

If you only owned 12.3% then you should only get 12.3%, or we’ll wait till the time is right and you’ll get 0% and a good kick up the arse… which is my preferred method of solving the problem because I know very well what garbage most “Turkish Cypriots” are!

12.3% is bullshit and you know it. You carry on like that and we'll have 37.5%.

[Get Real!]

Tony, in the past 25% has been offered and was refused, why on earth would the TCs accept any less now.

Where did you get that from? “Turkish Cypriot” barbeque newspapers by any chance?

27% is reasonable with all the GCs who wish to return to return to their lands and all to have one of three choices. Restitution with return or without or compensation only. You can't ask fairer than that.

If you only owned 12.3% then you should only get 12.3%, or we’ll wait till the time is right and you’ll get 0% and a good kick up the arse… which is my preferred method of solving the problem because I know very well what garbage most “Turkish Cypriots” are!

12.3% is bullshit and you know it. You carry on like that and we'll have 37.5%.

Garbage you were born and garbage you will die!

When the time is right I will take great pleasure in putting an end to this charade once and for all.

[YFred]

Tony, in the past 25% has been offered and was refused, why on earth would the TCs accept any less now.

Where did you get that from? “Turkish Cypriot” barbeque newspapers by any chance?

27% is reasonable with all the GCs who wish to return to return to their lands and all to have one of three choices. Restitution with return or without or compensation only. You can't ask fairer than that.

If you only owned 12.3% then you should only get 12.3%, or we’ll wait till the time is right and you’ll get 0% and a good kick up the arse… which is my preferred method of solving the problem because I know very well what garbage most “Turkish Cypriots” are!

12.3% is bullshit and you know it. You carry on like that and we'll have 37.5%.

Garbage you were born and garbage you will die!

When the time is right I will take great pleasure in putting an end to this charade once and for all.

Ehasda bale, en imboris na vgalis dammathgasu re bello shilla.
And what is this week's sucrifical figure ol chap?

[Get Real!]

Tony, in the past 25% has been offered and was refused, why on earth would the TCs accept any less now.

Where did you get that from? “Turkish Cypriot” barbeque newspapers by any chance?

27% is reasonable with all the GCs who wish to return to return to their lands and all to have one of three choices. Restitution with return or without or compensation only. You can't ask fairer than that.

If you only owned 12.3% then you should only get 12.3%, or we’ll wait till the time is right and you’ll get 0% and a good kick up the arse… which is my preferred method of solving the problem because I know very well what garbage most “Turkish Cypriots” are!

12.3% is bullshit and you know it. You carry on like that and we'll have 37.5%.

Garbage you were born and garbage you will die!

When the time is right I will take great pleasure in putting an end to this charade once and for all.

Ehasda bale, en imboris na vgalis dammathgasu re bello shilla.
And what is this week's sucrifical figure ol chap?

One thing is for sure… when the time is right and the moment to face the consequences of 35+ years of fucking this country around is at hand… it’ll make EOKA B, C, D, and G look like a pensioner’s sewing circle!

[B25]

Tony, in the past 25% has been offered and was refused, why on earth would the TCs accept any less now.

Where did you get that from? “Turkish Cypriot” barbeque newspapers by any chance?

27% is reasonable with all the GCs who wish to return to return to their lands and all to have one of three choices. Restitution with return or without or compensation only. You can't ask fairer than that.

If you only owned 12.3% then you should only get 12.3%, or we’ll wait till the time is right and you’ll get 0% and a good kick up the arse… which is my preferred method of solving the problem because I know very well what garbage most “Turkish Cypriots” are!

12.3% is bullshit and you know it. You carry on like that and we'll have 37.5%.

Garbage you were born and garbage you will die!

When the time is right I will take great pleasure in putting an end to this charade once and for all.

Ehasda bale, en imboris na vgalis dammathgasu re bello shilla.
And what is this week's sucrifical figure ol chap?

One thing is for sure… when the time is right and the moment to face the consequences of 35+ years of fucking this country around is at hand… it’ll make EOKA B, C, D, and G look like a pensioner’s sewing circle!

Maybe and I am right behind you, but you are going to need the israelis help to do that. You can't do it alone, sorry.

[YFred]

Tony, in the past 25% has been offered and was refused, why on earth would the TCs accept any less now.

Where did you get that from? “Turkish Cypriot” barbeque newspapers by any chance?

27% is reasonable with all the GCs who wish to return to return to their lands and all to have one of three choices. Restitution with return or without or compensation only. You can't ask fairer than that.

If you only owned 12.3% then you should only get 12.3%, or we’ll wait till the time is right and you’ll get 0% and a good kick up the arse… which is my preferred method of solving the problem because I know very well what garbage most “Turkish Cypriots” are!

12.3% is bullshit and you know it. You carry on like that and we'll have 37.5%.

Garbage you were born and garbage you will die!

When the time is right I will take great pleasure in putting an end to this charade once and for all.

Ehasda bale, en imboris na vgalis dammathgasu re bello shilla.
And what is this week's sucrifical figure ol chap?

One thing is for sure… when the time is right and the moment to face the consequences of 35+ years of fucking this country around is at hand… it’ll make EOKA B, C, D, and G look like a pensioner’s sewing circle!

Maybe and I am right behind you, but you are going to need the israelis help to do that. You can't do it alone, sorry.

Just remind you of what Inonu said to the TCs in the sixties.

We will come and save you from the GCs but who will come to save you from us?"

You get nout for nout as the old yorkshire man said.

I noticed you are right behind him. Any particular reason?

[Get Real!]

Tony, in the past 25% has been offered and was refused, why on earth would the TCs accept any less now.

Where did you get that from? “Turkish Cypriot” barbeque newspapers by any chance?

27% is reasonable with all the GCs who wish to return to return to their lands and all to have one of three choices. Restitution with return or without or compensation only. You can't ask fairer than that.

If you only owned 12.3% then you should only get 12.3%, or we’ll wait till the time is right and you’ll get 0% and a good kick up the arse… which is my preferred method of solving the problem because I know very well what garbage most “Turkish Cypriots” are!

12.3% is bullshit and you know it. You carry on like that and we'll have 37.5%.

Garbage you were born and garbage you will die!

When the time is right I will take great pleasure in putting an end to this charade once and for all.

Ehasda bale, en imboris na vgalis dammathgasu re bello shilla.
And what is this week's sucrifical figure ol chap?

One thing is for sure… when the time is right and the moment to face the consequences of 35+ years of fucking this country around is at hand… it’ll make EOKA B, C, D, and G look like a pensioner’s sewing circle!

Maybe and I am right behind you, but you are going to need the israelis help to do that. You can't do it alone, sorry.

Which scenario are you talking about?

The liberation of Turkish occupied territory as a result of a military operation is one thing, and the removal of Turkey from the equation altogether as a result of geopolitical changes is another.

We all saw how volatile this region can be recently and how alliances and perceptions can swing from one end to the other…

“Turkish Cypriots” need to realize that they are NOT in a position to play games because they are relying on a temporary 3rd party to foolishly extract concessions which can only last as long as the 3rd party lasts… but in reality the only thing that is guaranteed to last on Cyprus are the indigenous Cypriots with whom they must coexist if they are to exist at all!

[YFred]

Tony, in the past 25% has been offered and was refused, why on earth would the TCs accept any less now.

Where did you get that from? “Turkish Cypriot” barbeque newspapers by any chance?

27% is reasonable with all the GCs who wish to return to return to their lands and all to have one of three choices. Restitution with return or without or compensation only. You can't ask fairer than that.

If you only owned 12.3% then you should only get 12.3%, or we’ll wait till the time is right and you’ll get 0% and a good kick up the arse… which is my preferred method of solving the problem because I know very well what garbage most “Turkish Cypriots” are!

12.3% is bullshit and you know it. You carry on like that and we'll have 37.5%.

Garbage you were born and garbage you will die!

When the time is right I will take great pleasure in putting an end to this charade once and for all.

Ehasda bale, en imboris na vgalis dammathgasu re bello shilla.
And what is this week's sucrifical figure ol chap?

One thing is for sure… when the time is right and the moment to face the consequences of 35+ years of fucking this country around is at hand… it’ll make EOKA B, C, D, and G look like a pensioner’s sewing circle!

Maybe and I am right behind you, but you are going to need the israelis help to do that. You can't do it alone, sorry.

Which scenario are you talking about?

The liberation of Turkish occupied territory as a result of a military operation is one thing, and the removal of Turkey from the equation altogether as a result of geopolitical changes is another.

We all saw how volatile this region can be recently and how alliances and perceptions can swing from one end to the other…

“Turkish Cypriots” need to realize that they are NOT in a position to play games because they are relying on a temporary 3rd party to foolishly extract concessions which can only last as long as the 3rd party lasts… but in reality the only thing that is guaranteed to last on Cyprus are the indigenous Cypriots with whom they must coexist if they are to exist at all!

Do not worry your little head about our existance old chap. We'll be here for the duration and so will the Turks thanks to people like you and my friend Bastardo25.