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Postby denizaksulu » Mon Jun 14, 2010 10:23 pm

Linichka wrote:I have to wonder about your extreme hatred for Israelis, Deniz. It can't have arisen merely from that experience in Cana.



How can I hate Israelis? They are more than one group of people. I simply hate Zionists, thats all. From the first time I heard the words, ' This land is mine, God gave this land to me', I have hated the notion that People can come from all over the world, displace Arabs/Palestinians to create a new home-land at the expense of peoples who have lived there for Millenia.

Some hate Turks, some hate Greeks and my pet hate is Zionists. Savvy? I dont hate Jews as I have been taught to respect Jews, and not all Jews are Zionist.
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Postby YFred » Mon Jun 14, 2010 10:25 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
Linichka wrote:I have to wonder about your extreme hatred for Israelis, Deniz. It can't have arisen merely from that experience in Cana.



How can I hate Israelis? They are more than one group of people. I simply hate Zionists, thats all. From the first time I heard the words, ' This land is mine, God gave this land to me', I have hated the notion that People can come from all over the world, displace Arabs/Palestinians to create a new home-land at the expense of peoples who have lived there for Millenia.

Some hate Turks, some hate Greeks and my pet hate is Zionists. Savvy? I dont hate Jews as I have been taught to respect Jews, and not all Jews are Zionist.

Here is another lot that do not like Israel policy.

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Postby IMPOSTALIEDUS » Mon Jun 14, 2010 10:38 pm

I notice when things get hot , paph goes missing , when you cant stand the heat get out of the kitchen , paphetic,,,, just had a few beers and a great curry ,good night folks see you in the morning
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Postby YFred » Mon Jun 14, 2010 10:52 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
Linichka wrote:I have to wonder about your extreme hatred for Israelis, Deniz. It can't have arisen merely from that experience in Cana.



How can I hate Israelis? They are more than one group of people. I simply hate Zionists, thats all. From the first time I heard the words, ' This land is mine, God gave this land to me', I have hated the notion that People can come from all over the world, displace Arabs/Palestinians to create a new home-land at the expense of peoples who have lived there for Millenia.

Some hate Turks, some hate Greeks and my pet hate is Zionists. Savvy? I dont hate Jews as I have been taught to respect Jews, and not all Jews are Zionist.

Zionists of today are not the Zionists of WW2 when they were fighting for survival. The Zionists of today are the new Nazis and the opressors.
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Re: The Cypriot-Israeli Alliance to free Cyprus.

Postby Omer Seyhan » Mon Jun 14, 2010 11:34 pm

Oracle wrote:How Turkey’s loss could be a gain for Cyprus


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The acrimonious split between the reluctant bride that was Turkey, and the groom Israel, has been a pretty nasty affair, with Turkish prime minister Erdogan accusing Israel in Davos last year of killing people in Gaza and saying "I find it very sad that people applaud what you said (Shimon Peres). You killed people. And I think that it is very wrong."

The operation undertaken by the IDF on the Turkish vessel Mavi Marmaris which resulted in the deaths of at least 10 Turks, signalled the end of any "normal relations" between Ankara and Jerusalem, and has opened the door to a new era of relations between the Republic of Cyprus and Israel.

In London, talks have already begun amongst Greek-Cypriot supporters of Israel, and Israeli officials to lay the "groundwork" as one official has said, for Nicosia to move ahead and work closely with Jerusalem on military, economic, political and cultural co-operation.

One senior Greek-Cypriot politician in London said last night who is close to the talks with Israel said:

"It is time that Cyprus and Israel join together in an alliance to help each other in a region that is full of Islamic extremists and terrorist groups that want one thing, the destruction of the state of Israel and the establishment of Islam in the near and middle east".

In Cyprus this week media commentators have already started arguing for a closer alliance with Israel with Savvas Iacovides of the daily newspaper Simerini saying:

"The Republic of Cyprus is powerless. It does not have the luxury to choose friends and enemies. The enemies, they impose on you. The friends, are chosen, based on mutual interests, how near each one’s objectives are to the other’s, and mutual aims. Let us talk straight and cynically: Our enemy’s enemies, those of the Turkish invaders of Cyprus, are or can be our friends and allies."

Israel has already instructed that its citizens do not go to Turkey for holidays, Greece and Cyprus are eager for extra tourism given the economic problems both economies are facing, and will be seeing more Israelis this summer.

With Turkey now deepening its commercial ties with Arab countries with a new trade accord with Lebanon, Syria and Jordan, this surely underlines Turkey’s objective to turn to its historical and political past and work with the Islamic world.

By Turkey moving to the east, this does not mean Cyprus and Greece cannot have a good relationship with Turkey, but there must be a move to embrace Israel and signal that the Hellenes are the natural allies for Israel, and not with Turkey.

http://www.thelondondailynews.com/turke ... -4224.html


Good, I hope Israel does help Cyprus.
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Re: The Cypriot-Israeli Alliance to free Cyprus.

Postby Malapapa » Tue Jun 15, 2010 12:20 am

Omer Seyhan wrote:
Oracle wrote:How Turkey’s loss could be a gain for Cyprus


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The acrimonious split between the reluctant bride that was Turkey, and the groom Israel, has been a pretty nasty affair, with Turkish prime minister Erdogan accusing Israel in Davos last year of killing people in Gaza and saying "I find it very sad that people applaud what you said (Shimon Peres). You killed people. And I think that it is very wrong."

The operation undertaken by the IDF on the Turkish vessel Mavi Marmaris which resulted in the deaths of at least 10 Turks, signalled the end of any "normal relations" between Ankara and Jerusalem, and has opened the door to a new era of relations between the Republic of Cyprus and Israel.

In London, talks have already begun amongst Greek-Cypriot supporters of Israel, and Israeli officials to lay the "groundwork" as one official has said, for Nicosia to move ahead and work closely with Jerusalem on military, economic, political and cultural co-operation.

One senior Greek-Cypriot politician in London said last night who is close to the talks with Israel said:

"It is time that Cyprus and Israel join together in an alliance to help each other in a region that is full of Islamic extremists and terrorist groups that want one thing, the destruction of the state of Israel and the establishment of Islam in the near and middle east".

In Cyprus this week media commentators have already started arguing for a closer alliance with Israel with Savvas Iacovides of the daily newspaper Simerini saying:

"The Republic of Cyprus is powerless. It does not have the luxury to choose friends and enemies. The enemies, they impose on you. The friends, are chosen, based on mutual interests, how near each one’s objectives are to the other’s, and mutual aims. Let us talk straight and cynically: Our enemy’s enemies, those of the Turkish invaders of Cyprus, are or can be our friends and allies."

Israel has already instructed that its citizens do not go to Turkey for holidays, Greece and Cyprus are eager for extra tourism given the economic problems both economies are facing, and will be seeing more Israelis this summer.

With Turkey now deepening its commercial ties with Arab countries with a new trade accord with Lebanon, Syria and Jordan, this surely underlines Turkey’s objective to turn to its historical and political past and work with the Islamic world.

By Turkey moving to the east, this does not mean Cyprus and Greece cannot have a good relationship with Turkey, but there must be a move to embrace Israel and signal that the Hellenes are the natural allies for Israel, and not with Turkey.

http://www.thelondondailynews.com/turke ... -4224.html


Good, I hope Israel does help Cyprus.

They could start by paying this excuse for a journalist to go on a writing course.
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Re: The Cypriot-Israeli Alliance to free Cyprus.

Postby Omer Seyhan » Tue Jun 15, 2010 12:31 am

Malapapa wrote:
Omer Seyhan wrote:
Oracle wrote:How Turkey’s loss could be a gain for Cyprus


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The acrimonious split between the reluctant bride that was Turkey, and the groom Israel, has been a pretty nasty affair, with Turkish prime minister Erdogan accusing Israel in Davos last year of killing people in Gaza and saying "I find it very sad that people applaud what you said (Shimon Peres). You killed people. And I think that it is very wrong."

The operation undertaken by the IDF on the Turkish vessel Mavi Marmaris which resulted in the deaths of at least 10 Turks, signalled the end of any "normal relations" between Ankara and Jerusalem, and has opened the door to a new era of relations between the Republic of Cyprus and Israel.

In London, talks have already begun amongst Greek-Cypriot supporters of Israel, and Israeli officials to lay the "groundwork" as one official has said, for Nicosia to move ahead and work closely with Jerusalem on military, economic, political and cultural co-operation.

One senior Greek-Cypriot politician in London said last night who is close to the talks with Israel said:

"It is time that Cyprus and Israel join together in an alliance to help each other in a region that is full of Islamic extremists and terrorist groups that want one thing, the destruction of the state of Israel and the establishment of Islam in the near and middle east".

In Cyprus this week media commentators have already started arguing for a closer alliance with Israel with Savvas Iacovides of the daily newspaper Simerini saying:

"The Republic of Cyprus is powerless. It does not have the luxury to choose friends and enemies. The enemies, they impose on you. The friends, are chosen, based on mutual interests, how near each one’s objectives are to the other’s, and mutual aims. Let us talk straight and cynically: Our enemy’s enemies, those of the Turkish invaders of Cyprus, are or can be our friends and allies."

Israel has already instructed that its citizens do not go to Turkey for holidays, Greece and Cyprus are eager for extra tourism given the economic problems both economies are facing, and will be seeing more Israelis this summer.

With Turkey now deepening its commercial ties with Arab countries with a new trade accord with Lebanon, Syria and Jordan, this surely underlines Turkey’s objective to turn to its historical and political past and work with the Islamic world.

By Turkey moving to the east, this does not mean Cyprus and Greece cannot have a good relationship with Turkey, but there must be a move to embrace Israel and signal that the Hellenes are the natural allies for Israel, and not with Turkey.

http://www.thelondondailynews.com/turke ... -4224.html


Good, I hope Israel does help Cyprus.

They could start by paying this excuse for a journalist to go on a writing course.


Omg did the journalist actually use the term "Hellenes".... I haven't heard that since I took archaeology at university....
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Jun 15, 2010 12:51 am

IMPOSTALIEDUS wrote:...you do support israels financial backing of the pkk knowing that the pkk blow up women and children.ps i did understand your last reply ,but i thought you would have been man enough to say the word YES ,OR ARE YOU ASHAMED TO SAY IT

And how many Kurdish men, women, and children, have Turks killed?

http://www.thenational.ae/apps/pbcs.dll ... editorials
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Postby Omer Seyhan » Tue Jun 15, 2010 12:53 am

Get Real! wrote:
IMPOSTALIEDUS wrote:...you do support israels financial backing of the pkk knowing that the pkk blow up women and children.ps i did understand your last reply ,but i thought you would have been man enough to say the word YES ,OR ARE YOU ASHAMED TO SAY IT

And how many Kurdish men, women, and children, have Turks killed?

http://www.thenational.ae/apps/pbcs.dll ... editorials


Yes, we know Turkey is not doing it for human rights. They have no ground to stand on. We have moved on from that point.... I would say Erdogan is doing it for oil. Does anybody know who supplies Turkey with her oil?
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Jun 15, 2010 12:54 am

Linichka wrote:I have to wonder about your extreme hatred for Israelis, Deniz.

When a country exhibits extreme hatred towards others as Israel does against Palestinians, Lebanese, Syrians, Iranians, etc then such a country can only hope to receive hatred back! :roll:
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