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[Oracle]

I find your obtuseness rather offensive if not downright disgusting.

That means you can not find any evidence of any innocent GCs killed by TCs during 63-74 period...Just as i thought...

No, it doesn't mean your propaganda-slanted interpretation; it means exactly what I said. I've raised this with you before, but you always disappear after I spell it out, then come back with silly statements such as the above!

I'll leave the later years out which are even more devastatingly incriminating against the TCs and pick on your favourite year, which is somewhat in your favour.

In 1963 the figures of the dead were 364 TCs and 174 GCs. That means a population of some 90,000 TCs were responsible for 174 GCs. That's nearly 2 dead GCs for every 1,000 TCs in the general population. Conversely, the population of 600,000 GCs was responsible for 364 TC deaths. That's less than 1 TC dead for every 1,000 GCs. So, if you are going to blame any one side for harbouring more killers, it's the TC community!

And, these are the most favourable figures for you, leaving aside the worst your community has done to 1974. Now, I don't care for any lectures on "statistics and one dead is too much" (which we know) since this was necessitated by your silly stance.

But we are talking about innocent GCs killed by the TCs,Oracle...
If there were 174 GCs killed,and I have to take your word for it,they could not have been innocent...

Oh, the Turkish-TCs were innocently trying Taksim whilst the GCs were guiltily defending their culture and survival on this island?

[denizaksulu]

I find your obtuseness rather offensive if not downright disgusting.

That means you can not find any evidence of any innocent GCs killed by TCs during 63-74 period...Just as i thought...

No, it doesn't mean your propaganda-slanted interpretation; it means exactly what I said. I've raised this with you before, but you always disappear after I spell it out, then come back with silly statements such as the above!

I'll leave the later years out which are even more devastatingly incriminating against the TCs and pick on your favourite year, which is somewhat in your favour.

In 1963 the figures of the dead were 364 TCs and 174 GCs. That means a population of some 90,000 TCs were responsible for 174 GCs. That's nearly 2 dead GCs for every 1,000 TCs in the general population. Conversely, the population of 600,000 GCs was responsible for 364 TC deaths. That's less than 1 TC dead for every 1,000 GCs. So, if you are going to blame any one side for harbouring more killers, it's the TC community!

And, these are the most favourable figures for you, leaving aside the worst your community has done to 1974. Now, I don't care for any lectures on "statistics and one dead is too much" (which we know) since this was necessitated by your silly stance.

But we are talking about innocent GCs killed by the TCs,Oracle...
If there were 174 GCs killed,and I have to take your word for it,they could not have been innocent...

Oh, the Turkish-TCs were innocently trying Taksim whilst the GCs were guiltily defending their culture and survival on this island?

Oh my dear Oracle, you have a shock coming your way.

[BirKibrisli]

I find your obtuseness rather offensive if not downright disgusting.

That means you can not find any evidence of any innocent GCs killed by TCs during 63-74 period...Just as i thought...

No, it doesn't mean your propaganda-slanted interpretation; it means exactly what I said. I've raised this with you before, but you always disappear after I spell it out, then come back with silly statements such as the above!

I'll leave the later years out which are even more devastatingly incriminating against the TCs and pick on your favourite year, which is somewhat in your favour.

In 1963 the figures of the dead were 364 TCs and 174 GCs. That means a population of some 90,000 TCs were responsible for 174 GCs. That's nearly 2 dead GCs for every 1,000 TCs in the general population. Conversely, the population of 600,000 GCs was responsible for 364 TC deaths. That's less than 1 TC dead for every 1,000 GCs. So, if you are going to blame any one side for harbouring more killers, it's the TC community!

And, these are the most favourable figures for you, leaving aside the worst your community has done to 1974. Now, I don't care for any lectures on "statistics and one dead is too much" (which we know) since this was necessitated by your silly stance.

But we are talking about innocent GCs killed by the TCs,Oracle...
If there were 174 GCs killed,and I have to take your word for it,they could not have been innocent...

Oh, the Turkish-TCs were innocently trying Taksim whilst the GCs were guiltily defending their culture and survival on this island?

NO...The GCs were guiltily trying ENOSIS whilst the TCs were innocently defending their culture and survival on this island!

[Oracle]

Both couldn't be right - So, let's see how it has panned out ....

Turkey has invaded Cyprus and imposed its Taksim, not for any survival of "innocent TCs" but to re-install hundreds of thousands of its excess illiterate masses. These "innocent" acts are condemned by everyone except the TCs

Meanwhile, the "guilty" GCs have legitimate, world-renowned and much-envied Enosis with their sister, Greece. Thus, ensuring the GCs survival, as promised by the safety of such a longed-for, and hard-fought, Union ...

[supporttheunderdog]

What Enosis? Have those Greek invaded agin, like they did in '74.

The last I heard Cyprus was still an independant republic , and that is why we STILL have a President Christofias, a couucil of Ministers, and an assembly of Independant Deputies, passing laws that apply to Cyprus:

I have not heard we now have to kowtow to the republic of Greece, obey their laws, pay their taxes.

Just keep taking the medicine until the men in white coats come and takeyou away in a nice jacket with all sorts of decorative straps and buckles and put you in anice room with soft walls.

that is because (IMHO)YOU ARE A RAVING LOONY!

[Oracle]

Cyprus is a state, along with Greece, in the grand union, Enosis, with the EU - the offspring of Hellenic ideology and principles.

This was the freedom and independence Cyprus desired - the freedom to make our own laws, within a union of democratic co-Hellenists. What is so difficult to grasp? Are you going to (mentally) resist this 'freedom for Cyprus', as did the colonialist Brits and imperialist Turks?

[supporttheunderdog]

Funny, I always thought
(a)The EU was formed principally at the behest of France and Germany ostensibly to ensure peace in Europe but actually to bring about what Napoleon and Hitler failed to manage, namely the subjugation of the whole of Europe in a one centrally controlled undemocratic block (and that is not particularly Hellenic, in view of the proclaimed invention of Democracy by the Athenian Hellenes)
(b) Enosis was to achieve a union such that Cyprus became a part of the Greek state, and way if you have Enosis with Greece via the EU you also have Enosis with France, Germany, and Great Britain, and they too have Enosis.

However to celebrate Britain's Enosis with Greece (and of course vice versa) I have decided to fly the Greek Flag as my Avatar for the time being.

[Oracle]

Very wise. Good for you. Europe is Hellenic.

"Pytheas the Greek" mapped "Britannia", did you know?

Welcome on board ...

[denizaksulu]

Incorrigible

[Oracle]

Let's see you adopt the Greek flag then Deniz. You know you want to ... It's only a small diversion from the Makarios picked-Byzantine yellow-lookalike!