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[Oracle]

ciao gas
Who decides if is allowed or not?

The RoC.

[Kikapu]

Not a holiday brochure at all. Medview is one of the biggest property developers/property sellers in the North, they've built some of the biggest developments over there - owned by Ali Safa. I would've thought you'd keep yourself more up to date on who is flogging off all this GC owned land, who's financing the projects and all that jazz?

If you ever ventured over there - you'd see it all for yourself. But then your only interest in the North and any GC owned land and property in the North is just to whinge and moan about it all on here - you've no real knowledge of anything happening there (or for that matter in the South apart from your Pafos district Brit outpost) - as you so often demonstrate on here!

Medview don't do 'holidays' - they build and sell property.

Here you go - their brochure just for you!

http://www.medviewhomes.com/medview/brochure/englishbrochure.pdf

Ooops - just remembered - you've said in the past you DO NOT BELIEVE Israelis are buying in the North, let alone investing in building and selling property built on GC owned land.

Oh well - if it makes you happy to live in your little 'bubble' no pun intended.

"It has been estimated that within Cyprus waters there may be up to 8 million barrels of oil valued at $400 billion."

I hope the rest of the information given on the above site are more accurate than the one above.!

I'm sure the writer meant to say 8 Billion barrels worth $400 Billion, but that was the price of oil then. Today's market price for oil would be around $750 Billion.!

"Investments in the Bafra region have boosted the tourism sector. While the investments for sixteen 5star hotels, shopping centre and a desalination facility continue at full speed, the Famagusta- Karpas desert will be indistinguishable from Las Vegas when all of the construction work is completed by the end of 2010."

"With the desalination plant, the Cyprus desert will become green just like Vegas. Due to the agreement signed with TRNC Ministry of Culture and Tourism, the hotels within this project have to be completed before the end of 2010; otherwise the Ministry will be able to change the owner of the project for not meeting the requirements of the contract."

It's almost the end of 2010. Are all these proposed projects finished.??

By the way, no amount of desalination water can keep the north's desert areas as green as Las Vegas as stated in the article. First of all, if these people had been to Las Vegas, they will see that it is not GREEN at all, but a desert, except for few ares around the hotels grounds and the one or two artificial golf courses, and that's because, Las Vegas gets majority of it's water from the Colorado River and from underground water-table sources. Palm Springs is another story when it comers to making the whole place look green, despite being a desert.!


Word of warning to the north in trying to imitate Las Vegas, even in a very small way as a gambling tourist destination, because not every gabling city is a success story, since even Las Vegas is having a "bad day" these days..




You may find the below article (site) interesting to read, when an "economy" is based on gambling.

IX. Economic Impacts of Gambling

"But look at Atlantic City. It used to be a slum by the sea, and now, it's a slum by the sea with casinos."

http://www.library.ca.gov/crb/97/03/Chapt9.html

[DT.]

Not a holiday brochure at all. Medview is one of the biggest property developers/property sellers in the North, they've built some of the biggest developments over there - owned by Ali Safa. I would've thought you'd keep yourself more up to date on who is flogging off all this GC owned land, who's financing the projects and all that jazz?

If you ever ventured over there - you'd see it all for yourself. But then your only interest in the North and any GC owned land and property in the North is just to whinge and moan about it all on here - you've no real knowledge of anything happening there (or for that matter in the South apart from your Pafos district Brit outpost) - as you so often demonstrate on here!

Medview don't do 'holidays' - they build and sell property.

Here you go - their brochure just for you!

http://www.medviewhomes.com/medview/brochure/englishbrochure.pdf

Ooops - just remembered - you've said in the past you DO NOT BELIEVE Israelis are buying in the North, let alone investing in building and selling property built on GC owned land.

Oh well - if it makes you happy to live in your little 'bubble' no pun intended.

"It has been estimated that within Cyprus waters there may be up to 8 million barrels of oil valued at $400 billion."

I hope the rest of the information given on the above site are more accurate than the one above.!

I'm sure the writer meant to say 8 Billion barrels worth $400 Billion, but that was the price of oil then. Today's market price for oil would be around $750 Billion.!

"Investments in the Bafra region have boosted the tourism sector. While the investments for sixteen 5star hotels, shopping centre and a desalination facility continue at full speed, the Famagusta- Karpas desert will be indistinguishable from Las Vegas when all of the construction work is completed by the end of 2010."

"With the desalination plant, the Cyprus desert will become green just like Vegas. Due to the agreement signed with TRNC Ministry of Culture and Tourism, the hotels within this project have to be completed before the end of 2010; otherwise the Ministry will be able to change the owner of the project for not meeting the requirements of the contract."

It's almost the end of 2010. Are all these proposed projects finished.??

By the way, no amount of desalination water can keep the north's desert areas as green as Las Vegas as stated in the article. First of all, if these people had been to Las Vegas, they will see that it is not GREEN at all, but a desert, except for few ares around the hotels grounds and the one or two artificial golf courses, and that's because, Las Vegas gets majority of it's water from the Colorado River and from underground water-table sources. Palm Springs is another story when it comers to making the whole place look green, despite being a desert.!


Word of warning to the north in trying to imitate Las Vegas, even in a very small way as a gambling tourist destination, because not every gabling city is a success story, since even Las Vegas is having a "bad day" these days..




You may find the below article (site) interesting to read, when an "economy" is based on gambling.

IX. Economic Impacts of Gambling

"But look at Atlantic City. It used to be a slum by the sea, and now, it's a slum by the sea with casinos."

http://www.library.ca.gov/crb/97/03/Chapt9.html

I can actually shed some light on the desalination plant which is sponsored by the EU.

Funny thing, a GC company won the competition and a friend of mine is project managing it.

The Turks are yet to agree to let him dive in the area to check out the environmental impact...expected completion date.....2079

[Daniella]

Thanks but I ask an answer to gasman

[Lit]

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/babylon ... yprus.html

From the Los Angeles Times:

Agreement in the region is a short blanket; cover one side, and someone else's feet stick out. Now Turkey is angry.

Although Turkey has no claim to the area demarcated with Israel, the Turkish foreign ministry fiercely criticized the agreement saying it didn't consider "Turkish Cypriot" rights and jurisdiction over the maritime areas of the island.

Turkey's 1974 takeover of northern Cyprus remains internationally contested, as Israeli commentators were pleased to point out when Turkish officials slammed the agreement. Turkey has gall to demand rights based on its occupation of northern Cyprus, Israeli diplomatic sources said.

[Oracle]

Thanks but I ask an answer to gasman

Sure; and perhaps next time you can PM her for a personal answer, since this is a public forum.

You might reflect on the fact that her self-appointed "Governor of Cyprus' role remains unrecognised by the RoC.

And, you'll do yourself no harm if you cast an eye over how Kikapu and DT. have trashed her latest (ancient) googlefart promoting illegal activities in the occupied north.

[Oracle]

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/babylonbeyond/2010/12/israel-neighbors-watchful-as-israel-demarcates-maritime-borders-with-cyprus.html

From the Los Angeles Times:

Agreement in the region is a short blanket; cover one side, and someone else's feet stick out. Now Turkey is angry.

Although Turkey has no claim to the area demarcated with Israel, the Turkish foreign ministry fiercely criticized the agreement saying it didn't consider "Turkish Cypriot" rights and jurisdiction over the maritime areas of the island.

Turkey's 1974 takeover of northern Cyprus remains internationally contested, as Israeli commentators were pleased to point out when Turkish officials slammed the agreement. Turkey has gall to demand rights based on its occupation of northern Cyprus, Israeli diplomatic sources said.

Turkey is out on a limb ...

Israel is focusing on a boost of its relations with Balkan countries, including Bulgaria, which some have interpreted as a thrust to compensate for its rift with Turkey, a rising major power and a traditional Israeli ally prior to 2008-2010.

"There is an amazing and constant improvement in our relations with Greece, Cyprus, Bulgaria, Romania and other countries, with whom our cooperation is increasing at all levels," Israel's Foreign Ministry spokesman Yigal Palmor said, as cited by BGNES, which quotes international media.

"This warming of ties is a natural development which we welcome and is not a substitution measure directed against a third country," he explains.

"Our relations with Turkey are at their lowest level, and so we have looked for new friends in the Balkans," Alon Liel, a former Israeli ambassador to Turkey, is quoted as saying. He further warns that if the Israeli-Palestinian peace talks keep stalling, Israel is threatened of an increased regional isolation.

http://www.novinite.com/view_news.php?id=123541

[Daniella]

Thanks but I ask an answer to gasman

Sure; and perhaps next time you can PM her for a personal answer, since this is a public forum.

You might reflect on the fact that her self-appointed "Governor of Cyprus' role remains unrecognised by the RoC.

And, you'll do yourself no harm if you cast an eye over how Kikapu and DT. have trashed her latest (ancient) googlefart promoting illegal activities in the occupied north.

Thanks again

[Gasman]

Another opportunity for anyone in any doubt, to work out what your job is and your reasons for posting here.

Some don't have to work it out. They know exactly what I do for a living - and your assumptions (as usual) couldn't be more wrong.

Quite why you seem to have this desperate need to get people to believe your lies about me having come from the North, entered the RoC illegally, owning property in the North, selling property in the North, paid 'spy for Turkey' or whatever else your hate filled and warped mind can come up with, I don't know.

I could post lots more links stating Israelis are investing in the North. You wouldn't believe them - because you don't want it to be true!

My whole point is that these are the new 'partners' you embrace and who you seem to think (having given up on your idea of an avenging EU army doing the job) will kick Turkey's arse out of Cyprus.

Is it only 'some' people you take offence at buying GC owned property in the North then? And if they are Israelie, it is OK? I object to ANYONE doing so! I don't swallow the lines they spin about how they 'didn't know' or 'were misled'. I question why the RoC makes it a criminal offence and then doesn't prosecute anyone for it? Why there isn't more outrage in general when the people selling and buying are hardly HIDING from the rest of the world. They are ADVERTISING what they do worldwide!

At least I have some idea what is going on over there and who is selling and who is buying. You, as usual, are clueless. Even more clueless than you are about what is going on in the RoC.

[Oracle]

At least I have some idea what is going on over there ...

Why don't you read what Kikapu and DT. have written for you.