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[Kikapu]

And what if Iran No 1 and Iran No 2 become allies...Who is ging to slap them???? America??? Who cannot even slap Taliban? Or Israel who cannot even slap Hamas???

The big difference is that unlike Turkey, Iran is mostly self sufficient after many years of isolation so she can easily survive.

Turkey though seems oblivious of how heavily reliant she is of the US. Her US-made weapons systems wouldn’t even twitch against the West.

The assumption is that Iran and Turkey would be allies,and they would help each other survive...Is it not???Try to imagine such an alliance...The USA is,and they are shitting themselves...But as you know,I am a man of peace,GR! I do not make war scenarios like you do as a pastime...There is not one nation on earth ,Russia and China included, who would dare take on Turkey and Iran combined...It would be total folly...They are too scared to take on Iran alone...Back to the drawing board,Tiberius (with a keyboard)...

ps..I am not saying no nation is capable of invading and overcoming initally the Turkish or Iranian defences,but....heaven help them afterwards!!! :wink:

Bir, I'm in a strong belief and also what I've heard from others who may be in a position to know just a little bit more, that Israel will nuke Iran as a "First Strike" should Iran go ahead with it's nuclear weapons program no matter what the aftermath would be. I believe that is their policy and there is nothing Turkey can do for Iran at that point in time.

As for defeating Turkey militarily, it is not as far-fetched as you believe. All anyone needs to do, is to defeat the "rich target" Turkish Forces in small area of Cyprus and the rest will fall in place. All that need to be done, is to cut off the TA in the north from being resupplied, which is a simple task for many nations with a good military readiness, just because the TA in the north is nothing but a "sitting duck" with their backs to the sea. Lets hope it will never come to that and that cooler heads will prevail.

I don't follow what you are saying ,Kikapu...How would the main Turkish Military collapse if the Cyprus contingent is defeated??? I simply can't find a logical path from one possible event to the other...

All I'm saying is, Bir, is that defeating the TA in Cyprus won't be a major task for any nation with a good military standing if and when they are cut off from the mainland for supplies. Defeat for the 40,000 strong TA in Cyprus is a defeat for the whole of Turkey, militarily and politically, which will result in the "implosion" of Turkey itself by her own citizens. Turkey's great military strength all boils down to it's weakest link, and that weakest link for Turkey is her "sitting duck" forces in Cyprus.

AS for Iran, do you really believe there can be any 'contained' nuclear attack by Israel...? If it can't be contained,where would it end? Can you really imagine the whole Iranian population be annihilated by Israel in a nuclear attack??? No,mate,there will be No nuclear attacks on anyone in that region...That would precipitate bloody events the like of which have never been seen in history...America,Russia,and China could not possibly allow it...

Iran is on record that it wants to "wipe Israel off the map", and the only way they can do that, would be with nuclear weapons. If anyone for a minute thinks that Israel is going to sit and wait for Iran to build the Nuclear weapons it needs to destroy Israel does not understand that they will do anything to make sure they will survive any threats, specially when they already posses the means to make sure they would survive. They would ask for "forgiveness than permission" to destroy the threat.....maybe, since they are yet to apologize to Turkey, their long time friends, for the killing 9 Turks on the flotilla aid to Palestine.

It does not need to be the annihilation of the Iranian population. It certainly wasn't the case with Japan and it won't be the case with Iran. Lets face it, one nuclear explosion can ruin any one's day. All I'm saying is, Israel will strike if and when they feel the need to do so, that's all, and then let the chips fall as they may. At the moment, there is no such threat, just because Iran cannot produce nuclear weapons yet, and may never be able to, which would be the best outcome for everyone concerned.!

But this is the misconception around the world, why can't Iran produce nuclear weapons when Israel receives billions of US dollars for military supplies and nuclear weapons? Why should Iran be the sitting duck when Israel has nuclear missiles that can target every muslim city around them. The misconception is that many arguements will be that Iran is unstable and funds terrorist activities so having such weapons in the hands of such a country will be catastrophic, but isn't Israel a terrorist state?

Now I don't support Iran nor am I in favour of Nuclear Weapons but for the discussion at hand on this forum I question the above of who is really pulling the strings saying one can and one can't have nuclear weapons.

For starters, Israel has not threaten to wipe Iran off the map, therefore they (Iran) are not a "sitting duck" and neither is any other country in the region, Muslim or otherwise, but Iran has done so to Israel, therefore, Iran has set themselves up to be the "bad-boys" of the middle east, and having made the threat, any attempt by Iran to get nuclear weapons to execute their threat, that attempt will give the RIGHT and the JUSTIFICATION for Israel to "cut Iran off at the pass" in anyway they can, even if it means by lobing over one of their nuclear missiles to land in a very remote and deserted part of Iran to send the message, that the next one will be landing downtown Tehran. Now, I'm no fan of Israel in the way they have been doing "business" with the Palestinians and building on their land, which by the way, with the approval of Turkey and the "trnc" for decades, just because it very much resemble their own past and present actions in Cyprus. The fact that Turkey is now trying to do the right thing regarding Israel, is just a little too late for them to be seen as the protector and defender of moral justice when she is not prepared to do the same in Cyprus, but that's another topic for another day. Israel's concerns regarding Iran cannot be taken lightly however, which they will have every right to defend their country in anyway they see fit.

US has given/gives money to everyone in this region for decades to buy their loyalties (ass), which includes Turkey, Greece, Egypt, Jordan, Pakistan, Israel and more. These are the most expensive "whores" we have on the US payroll, I'm sure. Iran run by bunch of mullahs cannot be trusted with nuclear weapons. It's bad enough Pakistan and North Korea already have them, but they are not threatening to wipe Israel off the map, is the reason why Israel will not nuke Pakistan, but Iran is a different case. We are of course long ways from Israel ever using their nukes on Iran. Right now, they are able to sabotage Iran's nuclear centrifuges by using a "virus" to not make them operational properly. That is as good as anything else for Israel to remain safe, and for Iran also.!

[All4114All]

And what if Iran No 1 and Iran No 2 become allies...Who is ging to slap them???? America??? Who cannot even slap Taliban? Or Israel who cannot even slap Hamas???

The big difference is that unlike Turkey, Iran is mostly self sufficient after many years of isolation so she can easily survive.

Turkey though seems oblivious of how heavily reliant she is of the US. Her US-made weapons systems wouldn’t even twitch against the West.

The assumption is that Iran and Turkey would be allies,and they would help each other survive...Is it not???Try to imagine such an alliance...The USA is,and they are shitting themselves...But as you know,I am a man of peace,GR! I do not make war scenarios like you do as a pastime...There is not one nation on earth ,Russia and China included, who would dare take on Turkey and Iran combined...It would be total folly...They are too scared to take on Iran alone...Back to the drawing board,Tiberius (with a keyboard)...

ps..I am not saying no nation is capable of invading and overcoming initally the Turkish or Iranian defences,but....heaven help them afterwards!!! :wink:

Bir, I'm in a strong belief and also what I've heard from others who may be in a position to know just a little bit more, that Israel will nuke Iran as a "First Strike" should Iran go ahead with it's nuclear weapons program no matter what the aftermath would be. I believe that is their policy and there is nothing Turkey can do for Iran at that point in time.

As for defeating Turkey militarily, it is not as far-fetched as you believe. All anyone needs to do, is to defeat the "rich target" Turkish Forces in small area of Cyprus and the rest will fall in place. All that need to be done, is to cut off the TA in the north from being resupplied, which is a simple task for many nations with a good military readiness, just because the TA in the north is nothing but a "sitting duck" with their backs to the sea. Lets hope it will never come to that and that cooler heads will prevail.

I don't follow what you are saying ,Kikapu...How would the main Turkish Military collapse if the Cyprus contingent is defeated??? I simply can't find a logical path from one possible event to the other...

All I'm saying is, Bir, is that defeating the TA in Cyprus won't be a major task for any nation with a good military standing if and when they are cut off from the mainland for supplies. Defeat for the 40,000 strong TA in Cyprus is a defeat for the whole of Turkey, militarily and politically, which will result in the "implosion" of Turkey itself by her own citizens. Turkey's great military strength all boils down to it's weakest link, and that weakest link for Turkey is her "sitting duck" forces in Cyprus.

AS for Iran, do you really believe there can be any 'contained' nuclear attack by Israel...? If it can't be contained,where would it end? Can you really imagine the whole Iranian population be annihilated by Israel in a nuclear attack??? No,mate,there will be No nuclear attacks on anyone in that region...That would precipitate bloody events the like of which have never been seen in history...America,Russia,and China could not possibly allow it...

Iran is on record that it wants to "wipe Israel off the map", and the only way they can do that, would be with nuclear weapons. If anyone for a minute thinks that Israel is going to sit and wait for Iran to build the Nuclear weapons it needs to destroy Israel does not understand that they will do anything to make sure they will survive any threats, specially when they already posses the means to make sure they would survive. They would ask for "forgiveness than permission" to destroy the threat.....maybe, since they are yet to apologize to Turkey, their long time friends, for the killing 9 Turks on the flotilla aid to Palestine.

It does not need to be the annihilation of the Iranian population. It certainly wasn't the case with Japan and it won't be the case with Iran. Lets face it, one nuclear explosion can ruin any one's day. All I'm saying is, Israel will strike if and when they feel the need to do so, that's all, and then let the chips fall as they may. At the moment, there is no such threat, just because Iran cannot produce nuclear weapons yet, and may never be able to, which would be the best outcome for everyone concerned.!

But this is the misconception around the world, why can't Iran produce nuclear weapons when Israel receives billions of US dollars for military supplies and nuclear weapons? Why should Iran be the sitting duck when Israel has nuclear missiles that can target every muslim city around them. The misconception is that many arguements will be that Iran is unstable and funds terrorist activities so having such weapons in the hands of such a country will be catastrophic, but isn't Israel a terrorist state?

Now I don't support Iran nor am I in favour of Nuclear Weapons but for the discussion at hand on this forum I question the above of who is really pulling the strings saying one can and one can't have nuclear weapons.

For starters, Israel has not threaten to wipe Iran off the map, therefore they (Iran) are not a "sitting duck" and neither is any other country in the region, Muslim or otherwise, but Iran has done so to Israel, therefore, Iran has set themselves up to be the "bad-boys" of the middle east, and having made the threat, any attempt by Iran to get nuclear weapons to execute their threat, that attempt will give the RIGHT and the JUSTIFICATION for Israel to "cut Iran off at the pass" in anyway they can, even if it means by lobing over one of their nuclear missiles to land in a very remote and deserted part of Iran to send the message, that the next one will be landing downtown Tehran. Now, I'm no fan of Israel in the way they have been doing "business" with the Palestinians and building on their land, which by the way, with the approval of Turkey and the "trnc" for decades, just because it very much resemble their own past and present actions in Cyprus. The fact that Turkey is now trying to do the right thing regarding Israel, is just a little too late for them to be seen as the protector and defender of moral justice when she is not prepared to do the same in Cyprus, but that's another topic for another day. Israel's concerns regarding Iran cannot be taken lightly however, which they will have every right to defend their country in anyway they see fit.

US has given/gives money to everyone in this region for decades to buy their loyalties (ass), which includes Turkey, Greece, Egypt, Jordan, Pakistan, Israel and more. These are the most expensive "whores" we have on the US payroll, I'm sure. Iran run by bunch of mullahs cannot be trusted with nuclear weapons. It's bad enough Pakistan and North Korea already have them, but they are not threatening to wipe Israel off the map, is the reason why Israel will not nuke Pakistan, but Iran is a different case. We are of course long ways from Israel ever using their nukes on Iran. Right now, they are able to sabotage Iran's nuclear centrifuges by using a "virus" to not make them operational properly. That is as good as anything else for Israel to remain safe, and for Iran also.!

I agree and nor I am a fan of Israel aswell. Although Iran who sends such threats I do not defend Iran but at the same time Israel may not say anything but justify their intentions by actions instead of words/threats.

[Gasman]

When they are all cozy with the Israelis and discussing the 'exploration', perhaps it would be a good time to ask them about the Israeli investors in the 'TRNC'?

From the latest Medview brochure:

Tourism investments in the Famagusta-Karpas region are not limited to “Vegas Hotels”. For instance, Skyline will be the highest building in Cyprus and will open in 2011. A yacht harbour is being built near the Karpaz Bay Resort, a joint enterprise of Israeli and English associates, when finished it will serve approximately 350 yachts. A French-English-Israeli partnership company is building a desalination facility to meet the water requirements of the region.

Or maybe the members here in charge of Facebook campaigns could get something going about it? Worked when they didn't want JLo supporting 'an illegal regime'.

[Gasman]

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[Oracle]

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No shit

It's just pitiful what it would Googlefart and repeat

- Some ancient "North Cyprus" Holiday brochure prepared in Newington Green - by MR-from-NG, no doubt, in collaboration with some desperate googlefarter intent on keeping its anti-Cypriot publications going to provide "evidence" that no GC should dare make an alliance with any country because some carpetbagger-googlefarter will happily invent a little private company association which will blow the RoC government's efforts right out of the window.

[Gasman]

Not a holiday brochure at all. Medview is one of the biggest property developers/property sellers in the North, they've built some of the biggest developments over there - owned by Ali Safa. I would've thought you'd keep yourself more up to date on who is flogging off all this GC owned land, who's financing the projects and all that jazz?

If you ever ventured over there - you'd see it all for yourself. But then your only interest in the North and any GC owned land and property in the North is just to whinge and moan about it all on here - you've no real knowledge of anything happening there (or for that matter in the South apart from your Pafos district Brit outpost) - as you so often demonstrate on here!

Medview don't do 'holidays' - they build and sell property.

Here you go - their brochure just for you!

http://www.medviewhomes.com/medview/brochure/englishbrochure.pdf

Ooops - just remembered - you've said in the past you DO NOT BELIEVE Israelis are buying in the North, let alone investing in building and selling property built on GC owned land.

Oh well - if it makes you happy to live in your little 'bubble' no pun intended.

[Schnauzer]

Iran is on record that it wants to "wipe Israel off the map", and the only way they can do that, would be with nuclear weapons. If anyone for a minute thinks that Israel is going to sit and wait for Iran to build the Nuclear weapons it needs to destroy Israel does not understand that they will do anything to make sure they will survive any threats, specially when they already posses the means to make sure they would survive. They would ask for "forgiveness than permission" to destroy the threat.....maybe, since they are yet to apologize to Turkey, their long time friends, for the killing 9 Turks on the flotilla aid to Palestine.

One would have thought that 'By Now' the nonsense about Iran's threat to Israel would be generally known as such.

It serves Israel well that there are still those FOOL enough to accept the alleged 'Threat' as 'Fact', particularly since the matter was discussed and exposed as 'Nonsense' many moons ago.

[Oracle]

Not a holiday brochure at all. Medview is one of the biggest property developers/property sellers in the North, they've built some of the biggest developments over there - owned by Ali Safa. I would've thought you'd keep yourself more up to date on who is flogging off all this GC owned land, who's financing the projects and all that jazz?

If you ever ventured over there - you'd see it all for yourself. But then your only interest in the North and any GC owned land and property in the North is just to whinge and moan about it all on here - you've no real knowledge of anything happening there (or for that matter in the South apart from your Pafos district Brit outpost) - as you so often demonstrate on here!

Medview don't do 'holidays' - they build and sell property.

Here you go - their brochure just for you!

http://www.medviewhomes.com/medview/brochure/englishbrochure.pdf

Ooops - just remembered - you've said in the past you DO NOT BELIEVE Israelis are buying in the North, let alone investing in building and selling property built on GC owned land.

Oh well - if it makes you happy to live in your little 'bubble' no pun intended.

Another opportunity for anyone in any doubt, to work out what your job is and your reasons for posting here. Promoting illicit, illegal activities for the occupied north.

No gasfart, I don't care what you call that ragbag - but an advert for "building and selling properties" it is NOT - even calling it a "Holiday brochure" is promoting its worth! It is in fact just another blacklisted and unauthorised circular - of usefulness only to you and your criminal friends.

[Daniella]

Not a holiday brochure at all. Medview is one of the biggest property developers/property sellers in the North, they've built some of the biggest developments over there - owned by Ali Safa. I would've thought you'd keep yourself more up to date on who is flogging off all this GC owned land, who's financing the projects and all that jazz?

If you ever ventured over there - you'd see it all for yourself. But then your only interest in the North and any GC owned land and property in the North is just to whinge and moan about it all on here - you've no real knowledge of anything happening there (or for that matter in the South apart from your Pafos district Brit outpost) - as you so often demonstrate on here!

Medview don't do 'holidays' - they build and sell property.

Here you go - their brochure just for you!

http://www.medviewhomes.com/medview/brochure/englishbrochure.pdf

Ooops - just remembered - you've said in the past you DO NOT BELIEVE Israelis are buying in the North, let alone investing in building and selling property built on GC owned land.

Oh well - if it makes you happy to live in your little 'bubble' no pun intended.

ciao gas
Who decides if is allowed or not?
I have several greek cypriot living in the south that have maintained the land to the north. Some of them are also selling