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Postby Get Real! » Tue Dec 21, 2010 8:45 pm

Kikapu wrote:Bir, I'm in a strong belief and also what I've heard from others who may be in a position to know just a little bit more, that Israel will nuke Iran as a "First Strike" should Iran go ahead with it's nuclear weapons program no matter what the aftermath would be.

Nobody firing a nuke would be around long enough to find out if it was successful.
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Postby yialousa1971 » Tue Dec 21, 2010 9:01 pm

Daniella wrote:I agree with you Deniz, same doubt. :wink:
In diplomacy processes are fast and the ground slippery. Conditions are usually unstable and the rules liable to change.
Furthermore Israel which rarely implement international law….. have also “little” respect for international rules.


The same could be said about the Turks Rock girl. :roll:
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Postby Kikapu » Tue Dec 21, 2010 9:36 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Kikapu wrote:Bir, I'm in a strong belief and also what I've heard from others who may be in a position to know just a little bit more, that Israel will nuke Iran as a "First Strike" should Iran go ahead with it's nuclear weapons program no matter what the aftermath would be.

Nobody firing a nuke would be around long enough to find out if it was successful.


Who in the Muslim world going to nuke Israel as a retaliation for them nuking Iran, Pakistan.??

I don't think so.!

I believe, for Israel it would be the case of "it's easier to ask for forgiveness than to ask for permission" after the fact.
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Dec 21, 2010 11:13 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Kikapu wrote:Bir, I'm in a strong belief and also what I've heard from others who may be in a position to know just a little bit more, that Israel will nuke Iran as a "First Strike" should Iran go ahead with it's nuclear weapons program no matter what the aftermath would be.

Nobody firing a nuke would be around long enough to find out if it was successful.


Who in the Muslim world going to nuke Israel as a retaliation for them nuking Iran, Pakistan.??

I don't think so.!

I believe, for Israel it would be the case of "it's easier to ask for forgiveness than to ask for permission" after the fact.

For starters Iran itself would retaliate and who would blame them? Iran being 2-3 times the size of Turkey cannot be easily neutralized with one or two strikes, but Israel would not survive a single strike by Iran if it were to hit the fragile Dimona reactor sticking out like a sore thumb from miles away.

They’ve got Patriot anti-missiles all around its perimeter but they’re not perfect technology.

http://www.armscontrolwonk.com/images/1249.jpg
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Postby Kikapu » Tue Dec 21, 2010 11:47 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Kikapu wrote:Bir, I'm in a strong belief and also what I've heard from others who may be in a position to know just a little bit more, that Israel will nuke Iran as a "First Strike" should Iran go ahead with it's nuclear weapons program no matter what the aftermath would be.

Nobody firing a nuke would be around long enough to find out if it was successful.


Who in the Muslim world going to nuke Israel as a retaliation for them nuking Iran, Pakistan.??

I don't think so.!

I believe, for Israel it would be the case of "it's easier to ask for forgiveness than to ask for permission" after the fact.

For starters Iran itself would retaliate and who would blame them? Iran being 2-3 times the size of Turkey cannot be easily neutralized with one or two strikes, but Israel would not survive a single strike by Iran if it were to hit the fragile Dimona reactor sticking out like a sore thumb from miles away.

They’ve got Patriot anti-missiles all around its perimeter but they’re not perfect technology.

http://www.armscontrolwonk.com/images/1249.jpg


For starters, the Patriot Missiles of today are not the Patriot Missiles of the 1990 Gulf War era where the Iraqi crude scuds missiles were hitting Israel almost at will, since the Patriot Missiles of that era were a "proximity missiles" that it would explode close to the incoming missiles in the hopes that the exploding pieces would send the incoming missile off it's course, if not destroying it. Today's advanced Patriot Missiles are designed to actually shoot down the incoming missile in mid air with full impact and head on.

In any case, If Israel chooses to go down that path with a "first strike" plan, the Iranians will be in too much of a "shell shock" to respond effectively. Israel can also shut down the reactor in advance and secure the nuclear fuel rods in safety as an added measure.!
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Postby Oracle » Tue Dec 21, 2010 11:54 pm

Alternatively, take out all the Iranian nuclear physicists one by one ...
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Postby Get Real! » Wed Dec 22, 2010 12:05 am

Kikapu wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Kikapu wrote:Bir, I'm in a strong belief and also what I've heard from others who may be in a position to know just a little bit more, that Israel will nuke Iran as a "First Strike" should Iran go ahead with it's nuclear weapons program no matter what the aftermath would be.

Nobody firing a nuke would be around long enough to find out if it was successful.


Who in the Muslim world going to nuke Israel as a retaliation for them nuking Iran, Pakistan.??

I don't think so.!

I believe, for Israel it would be the case of "it's easier to ask for forgiveness than to ask for permission" after the fact.

For starters Iran itself would retaliate and who would blame them? Iran being 2-3 times the size of Turkey cannot be easily neutralized with one or two strikes, but Israel would not survive a single strike by Iran if it were to hit the fragile Dimona reactor sticking out like a sore thumb from miles away.

They’ve got Patriot anti-missiles all around its perimeter but they’re not perfect technology.

http://www.armscontrolwonk.com/images/1249.jpg


For starters, the Patriot Missiles of today are not the Patriot Missiles of the 1990 Gulf War era where the Iraqi crude scuds missiles were hitting Israel almost at will, since the Patriot Missiles of that era were a "proximity missiles" that it would explode close to the incoming missiles in the hopes that the exploding pieces would send the incoming missile off it's course, if not destroying it. Today's advanced Patriot Missiles are designed to actually shoot down the incoming missile in mid air with full impact and head on.

In any case, If Israel chooses to go down that path with a "first strike" plan, the Iranians will be in too much of a "shell shock" to respond effectively. Israel can also shut down the reactor in advance and secure the nuclear fuel rods in safety as an added measure.!

Although I cannot for the life of me figure out why Israel would need to strike Iran, there would be ZERO margin for error or miscalculations in such an operation because Iran is no pushover. They’ve been well schooled by the N.Koreans in the art of ballistics for around two decades now, so I hope the Israelis know what they’re doing… perhaps the fact that Israel hasn’t done anything says a lot.

As for a nuclear reactor being ok to strike when turned off and rods removed… ---> :lol:
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Israel-stay well clear!

Postby cymart » Wed Dec 22, 2010 12:11 am

Although I have Jewish ancestry I am not ashamed to condemn the current Israeli regime which follows Zionist policies and is guilty of repression against the Palestinian people.......Anti-Zionism does not mean Anti-Semitism and whilst I support anti-zionsim,I strongly condemn anti- Semitism,just like many other Jewish and Israeli people!
The last thing the Greek-Cypriots should do is to pander to Nethanyahus dirty and corrupt regime!Zionists are dangerous and can bring about Armageddon!
Another Greek Cypriot strategic error.....
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Re: Israel-stay well clear!

Postby denizaksulu » Wed Dec 22, 2010 12:23 am

cymart wrote:Although I have Jewish ancestry I am not ashamed to condemn the current Israeli regime which follows Zionist policies and is guilty of repression against the Palestinian people.......Anti-Zionism does not mean Anti-Semitism and whilst I support anti-zionsim,I strongly condemn anti- Semitism,just like many other Jewish and Israeli people!
The last thing the Greek-Cypriots should do is to pander to Nethanyahus dirty and corrupt regime!Zionists are dangerous and can bring about Armageddon!
Another Greek Cypriot strategic error.....



:shock: :shock: ...well I never............

........another like minded person. :lol: :lol:
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Postby Daniella » Wed Dec 22, 2010 12:53 am

This alliance can lead easily to a war.

1)Israel is not a signatory to the Convention of Montego Bay.

2) There is nothing positive about forming friendship with someone who is building a wall despite ONU disagreement.
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