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[denizaksulu]

I wonder whats in it for Israel? Can it just be OIL? I hope Cyprus was never part of a 'Greater Israel'.

[B25]

It makes me laugh everytime, when Turdland always uses the TCs as an excuse for everything. Come on, 50,000 Vs 600,000 Anatolian peasants and it is the TCs that supposedly Turdland is cincerned about.

Yeah, pull the other one mate, the TCs are history, it is your own interest you are protecting. I wonder if Turdland will be acting tough against Israel like she does with little old Cyprus.

As I have predicted in the past, the minute we strike oil and gas, our 'friends' will suddenly start appearing.

[Oracle]

I wonder whats in it for Israel? Can it just be OIL? I hope Cyprus was never part of a 'Greater Israel'.

If nothing else Deniz, these peacefully conducted negotiations, over the exploration zones, between our neighbouring countries (e.g. Israel and Lebanon) and us, prove that most civilised countries can reach amicable and mutually fair agreements without threats, blackmails and troops. These are positive political steps which Cyprus exhibits. Compare those to the demands and unfair grabs which Turkey continues to practice and 'watchers' will learn a valuable lesson about who to trust.

[denizaksulu]

I wonder whats in it for Israel? Can it just be OIL? I hope Cyprus was never part of a 'Greater Israel'.

If nothing else Deniz, these peacefully conducted negotiations, over the exploration zones, between our neighbouring countries (e.g. Israel and Lebanon) and us, prove that most civilised countries can reach amicable and mutually fair agreements without threats, blackmails and troops. These are positive political steps which Cyprus exhibits. Compare those to the demands and unfair grabs which Turkey continues to practice and 'watchers' will learn a valuable lesson about who to trust.

I hope you are right, but I doubt the Israelis sincerity on most things. Its a personal thing.

[Daniella]

I agree with you Deniz, same doubt.
In diplomacy processes are fast and the ground slippery. Conditions are usually unstable and the rules liable to change.
Furthermore Israel which rarely implement international law….. have also “little” respect for international rules.

[denizaksulu]

I agree with you Deniz, same doubt.
In diplomacy processes are fast and the ground slippery. Conditions are usually unstable and the rules liable to change.
Furthermore Israel which rarely implement international law….. have also “little” respect for international rules.

Absolutely

[Oracle]

I wonder whats in it for Israel? Can it just be OIL? I hope Cyprus was never part of a 'Greater Israel'.

If nothing else Deniz, these peacefully conducted negotiations, over the exploration zones, between our neighbouring countries (e.g. Israel and Lebanon) and us, prove that most civilised countries can reach amicable and mutually fair agreements without threats, blackmails and troops. These are positive political steps which Cyprus exhibits. Compare those to the demands and unfair grabs which Turkey continues to practice and 'watchers' will learn a valuable lesson about who to trust.

I hope you are right, but I doubt the Israelis sincerity on most things. Its a personal thing.

I don't think it's a matter of 'sincerity' because one is not asking for favours from the other. They've come to some mutually agreeable arrangements which are legally recognizable by International conventions and that's a good basis. They'll probably become too busy to cause problems.

Regardless, the RoC doesn't seem to be putting all its eggs in one basket. And there's nothing negative about forming new friendships and alliances with as many as possible. The only belligerent mumblings are coming from Turkey and I hope everyone is taking note.

[Oracle]

Turkey is backing off ....


"Turkey's Foreign Ministry said in a statement Tuesday that Turkey has no claims on the areas subject to the agreement..."

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/world/ ... 47999.html

[Kikapu]

Turkey is backing off ....


"Turkey's Foreign Ministry said in a statement Tuesday that Turkey has no claims on the areas subject to the agreement..."

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/world/ ... 47999.html

"Turkey's Foreign Ministry said in a statement Tuesday that Turkey has no claims on the areas subject to the agreement, but the "Turkish Cypriots have also rights and jurisdiction over the maritime areas of the island of Cyprus." It says the Greek Cypriot government should not unilaterally sign international agreements without a solution to the division of the island."

Didn't Turkey just the other week sign an agreement with the "trnc" to drill for oil and gas in areas between their "two nations".??

Where was the concern of not having the GCs input.? Where was the concern that it would upset the negotiations.? Is Turkey talking like a chicken with it's head cut off.?? Is this the "twilight zone" or what.??

[Kikapu]

And what if Iran No 1 and Iran No 2 become allies...Who is ging to slap them???? America??? Who cannot even slap Taliban? Or Israel who cannot even slap Hamas???

The big difference is that unlike Turkey, Iran is mostly self sufficient after many years of isolation so she can easily survive.

Turkey though seems oblivious of how heavily reliant she is of the US. Her US-made weapons systems wouldn’t even twitch against the West.

The assumption is that Iran and Turkey would be allies,and they would help each other survive...Is it not???Try to imagine such an alliance...The USA is,and they are shitting themselves...But as you know,I am a man of peace,GR! I do not make war scenarios like you do as a pastime...There is not one nation on earth ,Russia and China included, who would dare take on Turkey and Iran combined...It would be total folly...They are too scared to take on Iran alone...Back to the drawing board,Tiberius (with a keyboard)...

ps..I am not saying no nation is capable of invading and overcoming initally the Turkish or Iranian defences,but....heaven help them afterwards!!! :wink:

Bir, I'm in a strong belief and also what I've heard from others who may be in a position to know just a little bit more, that Israel will nuke Iran as a "First Strike" should Iran go ahead with it's nuclear weapons program no matter what the aftermath would be. I believe that is their policy and there is nothing Turkey can do for Iran at that point in time.

As for defeating Turkey militarily, it is not as far-fetched as you believe. All anyone needs to do, is to defeat the "rich target" Turkish Forces in small area of Cyprus and the rest will fall in place. All that need to be done, is to cut off the TA in the north from being resupplied, which is a simple task for many nations with a good military readiness, just because the TA in the north is nothing but a "sitting duck" with their backs to the sea. Lets hope it will never come to that and that cooler heads will prevail.