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Postby Oracle » Mon Dec 20, 2010 10:56 pm

Good for you!

This thread is about Cyprus' alliances! :wink:

(After all, I did not dictate to you what you should discuss here, did I? - so kindly allow me, also, the freedom to set the record straight, when someone decides to denigrate Cyprus, for the alliances it chooses to make in the here-and-now!)
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Postby BirKibrisli » Mon Dec 20, 2010 11:58 pm

Oracle wrote:Just like the "Direct Trade" debacle, this will go to the higher, deciding courts - EU - and then the TCs will see how much they have lost by inviting belligerent Turkey into the equation to fulfil their greedy, short-term thieving roles of consuming the GCs' properties!

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Ahmmmmmm....Get your head out of the sand,Oracle dear...It wasn't the TCs who invited Turkey 'into the equation'...It was the Greek Junta and its EOKA B thugs who overthrew Makarios in a bloody coup,Remember????
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Postby Oracle » Tue Dec 21, 2010 12:26 am

BirKibrisli wrote:
Oracle wrote:Just like the "Direct Trade" debacle, this will go to the higher, deciding courts - EU - and then the TCs will see how much they have lost by inviting belligerent Turkey into the equation to fulfil their greedy, short-term thieving roles of consuming the GCs' properties!

:D


Ahmmmmmm....Get your head out of the sand,Oracle dear...It wasn't the TCs who invited Turkey 'into the equation'...It was the Greek Junta and its EOKA B thugs who overthrew Makarios in a bloody coup,Remember????


But, the GCs did not invite the junta! Makarios was overthrown by the enemies of Cyprus - the CIA-led junta. Instead of joining in with the friends of Cyprus, the majority GCs, to protect Cyprus, you instead opened the portholes to Turkey and joyfully took your rehearsed places (belonging to GCs), from where you now moan you are refused recognition, trade and meaningful alliances!
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Postby DT. » Tue Dec 21, 2010 12:26 am

BirKibrisli wrote:
Oracle wrote:Just like the "Direct Trade" debacle, this will go to the higher, deciding courts - EU - and then the TCs will see how much they have lost by inviting belligerent Turkey into the equation to fulfil their greedy, short-term thieving roles of consuming the GCs' properties!

:D


Ahmmmmmm....Get your head out of the sand,Oracle dear...It wasn't the TCs who invited Turkey 'into the equation'...It was the Greek Junta and its EOKA B thugs who overthrew Makarios in a bloody coup,Remember????


Then why the disappointment by the tc population on 3 different occasions prior to the coup that the Turks failed to show up?
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Postby BirKibrisli » Tue Dec 21, 2010 12:43 am

DT. wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
Oracle wrote:Just like the "Direct Trade" debacle, this will go to the higher, deciding courts - EU - and then the TCs will see how much they have lost by inviting belligerent Turkey into the equation to fulfil their greedy, short-term thieving roles of consuming the GCs' properties!

:D


Ahmmmmmm....Get your head out of the sand,Oracle dear...It wasn't the TCs who invited Turkey 'into the equation'...It was the Greek Junta and its EOKA B thugs who overthrew Makarios in a bloody coup,Remember????


Then why the disappointment by the tc population on 3 different occasions prior to the coup that the Turks failed to show up?


When people feel themselves to be in mortal danger,it is always a disappointment when cavalry fails to appear! :)
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Postby DT. » Tue Dec 21, 2010 12:49 am

BirKibrisli wrote:
DT. wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
Oracle wrote:Just like the "Direct Trade" debacle, this will go to the higher, deciding courts - EU - and then the TCs will see how much they have lost by inviting belligerent Turkey into the equation to fulfil their greedy, short-term thieving roles of consuming the GCs' properties!

:D


Ahmmmmmm....Get your head out of the sand,Oracle dear...It wasn't the TCs who invited Turkey 'into the equation'...It was the Greek Junta and its EOKA B thugs who overthrew Makarios in a bloody coup,Remember????


Then why the disappointment by the tc population on 3 different occasions prior to the coup that the Turks failed to show up?



When people feel themselves to be in mortal danger,it is always a disappointment when cavalry fails to appear! :)


Yes but you said they came for the coup. What where the qualifying reasons the tc's demanded the Turks to invade and remove 1/3 of the gc population from their homes in the previous instances? What was grounds enough for the tc's to manage to justify in their conscience that this is where 200,000 gcs and thousands dead are justified?
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Postby BirKibrisli » Tue Dec 21, 2010 1:07 am

DT. wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
DT. wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
Oracle wrote:Just like the "Direct Trade" debacle, this will go to the higher, deciding courts - EU - and then the TCs will see how much they have lost by inviting belligerent Turkey into the equation to fulfil their greedy, short-term thieving roles of consuming the GCs' properties!

:D


Ahmmmmmm....Get your head out of the sand,Oracle dear...It wasn't the TCs who invited Turkey 'into the equation'...It was the Greek Junta and its EOKA B thugs who overthrew Makarios in a bloody coup,Remember????


Then why the disappointment by the tc population on 3 different occasions prior to the coup that the Turks failed to show up?



When people feel themselves to be in mortal danger,it is always a disappointment when cavalry fails to appear! :)


Yes but you said they came for the coup. What where the qualifying reasons the tc's demanded the Turks to invade and remove 1/3 of the gc population from their homes in the previous instances? What was grounds enough for the tc's to manage to justify in their conscience that this is where 200,000 gcs and thousands dead are justified?


You are shifting the ground,and mixing the events,DT...
From 1964 onwards the TCs lived in constant fear and humiliation...I am sorry but they were not in a position to be concerned about what might happen to their oppressors,would-be-murderers once Turkey came to the resque... :(
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Postby Lit » Tue Dec 21, 2010 2:18 am

Israel defiant against Turkey’s objection to Greek Cypriot deal

http://www.todayszaman.com/news-230210- ... -deal.html

In a move likely to add further tension to already troubled bilateral relations with Ankara, Israel has spurned Turkey’s objections to a recent deal between Israel and Greek Cyprus, suggesting that Ankara has had nothing to say about the economic agreement, which is a bilateral issue.
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Postby DT. » Tue Dec 21, 2010 5:18 am

BirKibrisli wrote:
DT. wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
DT. wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
Oracle wrote:Just like the "Direct Trade" debacle, this will go to the higher, deciding courts - EU - and then the TCs will see how much they have lost by inviting belligerent Turkey into the equation to fulfil their greedy, short-term thieving roles of consuming the GCs' properties!

:D


Ahmmmmmm....Get your head out of the sand,Oracle dear...It wasn't the TCs who invited Turkey 'into the equation'...It was the Greek Junta and its EOKA B thugs who overthrew Makarios in a bloody coup,Remember????


Then why the disappointment by the tc population on 3 different occasions prior to the coup that the Turks failed to show up?



When people feel themselves to be in mortal danger,it is always a disappointment when cavalry fails to appear! :)


Yes but you said they came for the coup. What where the qualifying reasons the tc's demanded the Turks to invade and remove 1/3 of the gc population from their homes in the previous instances? What was grounds enough for the tc's to manage to justify in their conscience that this is where 200,000 gcs and thousands dead are justified?


You are shifting the ground,and mixing the events,DT...
From 1964 onwards the TCs lived in constant fear and humiliation...I am sorry but they were not in a position to be concerned about what might happen to their oppressors,would-be-murderers once Turkey came to the resque... :(


Bir you taking about the proposed genocide of the tc's uncovered by the tc's, the planned genocide of the gcs uncovered by the tc's or the actual genocide of the tc's that never happened? :?
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Postby Lit » Tue Dec 21, 2010 11:18 am

Turkish ire over Israel-Cyprus pact

Turkish authorities yesterday warned that a bilateral economic deal between Cyprus and Israel aimed at mutual prospecting for oil in the eastern Mediterranean could strain ongoing United Nations-mediated talks aimed at reunifying the divided island.

According to Turkey’s semiofficial Anatolia news agency, the Turkish Foreign Ministry’s undersecretary, Feridun Sinirlioglu, warned Gaby Levy, Israel’s ambassador to Turkey, that the deal would have a negative impact. Sinirlioglu argued that “such unilateral moves [on behalf of the Greek Cypriots] that ignore the will of the Turkish-Cypriot side will harm ongoing settlement talks on the island.”

Meanwhile, diplomatic sources told Kathimerini that Ankara aims to pressure Israel into breaking its pact with Cyprus. The sources said Ankara may use its ties with Lebanon and militant Shiite movement Hezbollah as a way of exerting pressure on Israel. Nicosia has made similar deals with Lebanon and Egypt, which Turkey also has urged the Arab nations to break.

Israel yesterday defended its decision. “This agreement is an issue between Israel and Cyprus and it in no way affects a third country,” Israel’s Foreign Ministry spokesman Yigal Palmor was quoted as saying by Agence France-Presse. “We do not see how a third country would have anything to say about it,” he added. Another unidentified Israeli official accused Turkey of “monstrous chutzpah” for using “as an argument its occupation of the northern part of Cyprus to denounce the deal.”

The agreement defines the sea border between Cyprus and Israel and delineates an exclusive economic zone between the two countries, allowing them to prospect for oil together. Already the discovery of a huge gas deposit off the Israeli port of Haifa, and close to Cyprus, has fueled great interest in the region’s potential.

http://www.ekathimerini.com/4dcgi/_w_ar ... 010_121910
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