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Postby Gasman » Sat Jun 12, 2010 6:24 pm

More hypocrisy. From one who loves to bandy the word 'racism' around. Now cuddling up to Israel, whose RACIST treatment of Ethiopian Jews in Israel is a disgrace.
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Postby Gasman » Sat Jun 12, 2010 6:30 pm

Israel’s Greatest Loss: Its Moral Imagination

http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/israel-s-greatest-loss-its-moral-imagination-1.295600

Article on a JEWISH website - HAARETZ. Written well before the flotilla incident.

Plenty of Jews inside and outside Israel are condemning Israel too.

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Fully 80% of Gaza’s population lives on the edge of malnutrition, depending on international charities for their daily nourishment. According to the UN and World Health authorities, Gaza’s children suffer from dramatically increased morbidity that will affect and shorten the lives of many of them. This obscenity is a consequence of a deliberate and carefully calculated Israeli policy aimed at de-developing Gaza by destroying not only its economy but its physical and social infrastructure while sealing it hermitically from the outside world.

Particularly appalling is that this policy has been the source of amusement for some Israeli leaders, who according to Israeli press reports have jokingly described it as “putting Palestinians on a diet.” That, too, is reminiscent of the Hitler years, when Jewish suffering amused the Nazis.
...


Like their 'con the world' spoof video.
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Re: The Cypriot-Israeli Alliance to free Cyprus.

Postby denizaksulu » Sat Jun 12, 2010 6:42 pm

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The E.U., which on Dec. 8 adopted a strong, ambitious text concerning the broad lines of a future settlement, must itself move forward with the parties, in conjunction with U.S. mediation, with a view to the building and recognition of a Palestinian state living in peace and security side by side with Israel.


Was it the above quoted part you wished to highlight in your source but couldn't dare? What if they follow the suit for Cyprus too? :wink:


That has absolutely no bearing on Cyprus and its undisputed sovereignty.

Why would the EU give away part of the EU (Cyprus) to a bunch of terrorist Turks from the East?



Please provide links stainf that Turks are 'a bunch of terrorists' thank you. :?
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Re: The Cypriot-Israeli Alliance to free Cyprus.

Postby Oracle » Sat Jun 12, 2010 7:23 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
insan wrote:
The E.U., which on Dec. 8 adopted a strong, ambitious text concerning the broad lines of a future settlement, must itself move forward with the parties, in conjunction with U.S. mediation, with a view to the building and recognition of a Palestinian state living in peace and security side by side with Israel.


Was it the above quoted part you wished to highlight in your source but couldn't dare? What if they follow the suit for Cyprus too? :wink:


That has absolutely no bearing on Cyprus and its undisputed sovereignty.

Why would the EU give away part of the EU (Cyprus) to a bunch of terrorist Turks from the East?



Please provide links stainf that Turks are 'a bunch of terrorists' thank you. :?


Here's a bunch ...

http://www.terrorism-info.org.il/malam_ ... s_e105.htm

http://www.turkishweekly.net/article/17 ... cases.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ergenekon_(organization)

Turkey

Turkey overall

This Advice is current for Sunday, 13 June 2010.
Be alert to own security

Exercise caution High degree of caution

Reconsider your need to travel Do not travel
Borders with Syria, Iraq and Iran
Be alert to own security
Exercise caution High degree of caution

Reconsider your need to travel Do not travel

This advice has been reviewed and reissued. It contains new information in the Summary and under Safety and Security: Terrorism (recent attacks), and Money and Valuables (new currency). The overall level of the advice has not changed.

Summary

We advise you to exercise a high degree of caution in Turkey because of the high threat of terrorist attack.

Pay close attention to your personal security at all times and monitor the media for information about possible new safety or security risks.

Terrorist attacks can occur anywhere at any time in Turkey. Foreigners have been killed and injured.

Terrorists have in the past mounted attacks on significant dates and anniversaries. The tourist season during Turkey's spring and summer months has also traditionally been marked by increased terrorist attacks. See the Terrorism section below for a list of possible targets and a list of significant dates.

You should avoid any large gatherings and demonstrations as they may turn violent.

We advise you to reconsider your need to travel to provinces in the southeast of Turkey, including those in the border region between Turkey, Syria, Iraq and Iran, due to the unpredictable security situation. If you do decide to travel to these areas, you should exercise extreme caution.



Safety and Security
Terrorism

We advise you to exercise a high degree of caution in Turkey because of the high threat of terrorist attack. International and domestic terrorist groups have carried out attacks for several years. Pay close attention to your personal security at all times and monitor the media for information about possible new safety or security risks.
Terrorist attacks can occur anywhere at any time in Turkey. Significant dates and anniversaries are symbolic and terrorists have in the past used such occasions to mount attacks. Significant dates and anniversaries include: 15 February (anniversary of Abdullah Ocalan's capture), 21 March (Nevruz, Persian New Year celebrations), 4 April (Abdullah Ocalan's birthday), 1 May (May Day), 15 August (anniversary of Kurdistan Workers' Party's first attack). Possible locations include major cities, such as Ankara and Istanbul, regional centres and tourist destinations, particularly those in the Aegean and Mediterranean regions. In the past, attacks have occurred in Istanbul, Izmir, Marmaris, Antalya, Mersin, Kusadasi, Cesme, Cizre, Mugla, Manavgat and Adana.
Turkish authorities regularly arrest individuals suspected of planning terrorist activities. This demonstrates an on-going threat of attack in Turkey.
The tourist season during Turkey's spring and summer months has traditionally been marked by increased terrorist attacks. Foreign tourists have been killed and injured.
Terrorist attacks include:
In January 2010, the US Consulate in Adana was the target of a shooting attack.
In November 2009, a girl was killed when a Molotov cocktail was thrown into a public bus in Istanbul.
In March 2009, a bar in the Black Sea port of Trabzon was bombed, injuring nine people.
In December 2008, a bomb exploded outside a bank in central Istanbul injuring two people and an office of the governing political party in Istanbul was attacked with a parcel bomb, injuring ten people.
In October 2008, a woman was arrested in downtown Istanbul carrying 10 kilograms of explosive and a detonator in her bag.
In July 2008, twin explosions killed 17 people and injured more than 150 in a busy residential area of Istanbul. The second blast detonated minutes after the first, killing and injuring those who had gone to the scene to help.
Also in July 2008, armed gunmen attacked the US Consulate in Istanbul and killed three police officers.
Clashes between terrorist groups and Turkish security forces occur frequently in the south-east. Turkish militants often act in retaliation to Turkish military action in northern Iraq.
In planning your activities, consider the kind of places known to be terrorist targets and the level of security provided. Possible targets include commercial and public areas frequented by foreigners such as public transport facilities, including buses, mini-buses, trains and railway lines, hotels, bars, clubs, restaurants, cafes, fast food outlets, internet cafes, shopping malls and markets, places of worship and other sites associated with religion, embassies, banks, public gatherings, outdoor recreation events, resorts, tourist areas and their surrounds, including beaches, national parks and forests, and ports, including those used by international cruise liners.
Attacks have been conducted against western government, economic, commercial and political interests, including diplomatic premises such as embassies and consulates. Symbols, buildings and sites associated with Turkish security forces, such as military barracks and police vehicles, government, judiciary and political parties, businesses, places of worship, banks, financial institutions and automatic teller machines have also been targeted.
Borders with Syria, Iraq and Iran: We advise you to reconsider your need to travel to provinces in the southeast of Turkey, including those in the border region with Syria, Iraq and Iran, due to the unpredictable security situation.
The Turkish military has been conducting operations, including air strikes, in south-eastern Turkey and northern Iraq since November 2007. Terrorist groups have retaliated with violence and attacks resulting in multiple deaths are common.
Military strikes may also trigger violent demonstrations, particularly in south-eastern Turkey. In the past, such demonstrations have resulted in deaths, injuries and widespread property destruction. Roadside explosions are common.
Identification is required at checkpoints in this region and restrictions on travel in areas bordering Iraq are enforced. The security situation is more dangerous at night.
Civil Unrest/Political Tension
You should avoid any large gatherings and demonstrations throughout Turkey as they may become violent. International events and political developments may prompt demonstrations. If you are in an area affected by demonstrations, you should find a safe location, remain indoors and follow the advice of local authorities.
In the past, violence has occurred during May Day rallies on 1 May in Istanbul's Taksim Square. The Persian New Year (20-21 March), celebrated by Turkey's Kurdish communities as "Nevruz", has also been accompanied by unrest.
Crime
Muggings, assaults, pickpocketing and bag snatching occur in Turkey, especially in Istanbul in areas where tourists congregate including Taksim Square, Sultanahmet, the Grand Bazaar and the Spice Bazaar.
Foreigners, including Australians, have been drugged and had their passports and other personal effects stolen after being befriended by English-speaking strangers. Drugs may be administered through drinks, food, chewing gum or confectionery. The victim becomes disorientated and compliant and may even become unconscious.
Tourists may be befriended by English-speaking locals, taken to a bar for food or drinks and then expected to pay an inflated bill, often thousands of dollars for a few drinks. Violence is threatened with the demand for payment. These scams are common, particularly in Istanbul. Several Australians have been recent victims.
Sexual assaults have been reported in coastal tourist areas.
Local Travel
Turkey has one of the highest road accident rates in the world and fatalities occur frequently. With the exception of major freeways and arterial roads, the standard of road construction in Turkey is generally poor. Travel at night on most country roads is very dangerous due to inadequate lighting and local driving practices....
Source: Aus.gov

http://www.fco.gov.uk/en/travel-and-liv ... ope/turkey

http://www.jamestown.org/single/?no_cache=1&tx_ttnews[tt_news]=34910
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Re: The Cypriot-Israeli Alliance to free Cyprus.

Postby denizaksulu » Sat Jun 12, 2010 8:03 pm

Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
insan wrote:
The E.U., which on Dec. 8 adopted a strong, ambitious text concerning the broad lines of a future settlement, must itself move forward with the parties, in conjunction with U.S. mediation, with a view to the building and recognition of a Palestinian state living in peace and security side by side with Israel.


Was it the above quoted part you wished to highlight in your source but couldn't dare? What if they follow the suit for Cyprus too? :wink:


That has absolutely no bearing on Cyprus and its undisputed sovereignty.

Why would the EU give away part of the EU (Cyprus) to a bunch of terrorist Turks from the East?



Please provide links stainf that Turks are 'a bunch of terrorists' thank you. :?


Here's a bunch ...

http://www.terrorism-info.org.il/malam_ ... s_e105.htm

http://www.turkishweekly.net/article/17 ... cases.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ergenekon_(organization)

Turkey

Turkey overall

This Advice is current for Sunday, 13 June 2010.
Be alert to own security

Exercise caution High degree of caution

Reconsider your need to travel Do not travel
Borders with Syria, Iraq and Iran
Be alert to own security
Exercise caution High degree of caution

Reconsider your need to travel Do not travel

This advice has been reviewed and reissued. It contains new information in the Summary and under Safety and Security: Terrorism (recent attacks), and Money and Valuables (new currency). The overall level of the advice has not changed.

Summary

We advise you to exercise a high degree of caution in Turkey because of the high threat of terrorist attack.

Pay close attention to your personal security at all times and monitor the media for information about possible new safety or security risks.

Terrorist attacks can occur anywhere at any time in Turkey. Foreigners have been killed and injured.

Terrorists have in the past mounted attacks on significant dates and anniversaries. The tourist season during Turkey's spring and summer months has also traditionally been marked by increased terrorist attacks. See the Terrorism section below for a list of possible targets and a list of significant dates.

You should avoid any large gatherings and demonstrations as they may turn violent.

We advise you to reconsider your need to travel to provinces in the southeast of Turkey, including those in the border region between Turkey, Syria, Iraq and Iran, due to the unpredictable security situation. If you do decide to travel to these areas, you should exercise extreme caution.



Safety and Security
Terrorism

We advise you to exercise a high degree of caution in Turkey because of the high threat of terrorist attack. International and domestic terrorist groups have carried out attacks for several years. Pay close attention to your personal security at all times and monitor the media for information about possible new safety or security risks.
Terrorist attacks can occur anywhere at any time in Turkey. Significant dates and anniversaries are symbolic and terrorists have in the past used such occasions to mount attacks. Significant dates and anniversaries include: 15 February (anniversary of Abdullah Ocalan's capture), 21 March (Nevruz, Persian New Year celebrations), 4 April (Abdullah Ocalan's birthday), 1 May (May Day), 15 August (anniversary of Kurdistan Workers' Party's first attack). Possible locations include major cities, such as Ankara and Istanbul, regional centres and tourist destinations, particularly those in the Aegean and Mediterranean regions. In the past, attacks have occurred in Istanbul, Izmir, Marmaris, Antalya, Mersin, Kusadasi, Cesme, Cizre, Mugla, Manavgat and Adana.
Turkish authorities regularly arrest individuals suspected of planning terrorist activities. This demonstrates an on-going threat of attack in Turkey.
The tourist season during Turkey's spring and summer months has traditionally been marked by increased terrorist attacks. Foreign tourists have been killed and injured.
Terrorist attacks include:
In January 2010, the US Consulate in Adana was the target of a shooting attack.
In November 2009, a girl was killed when a Molotov cocktail was thrown into a public bus in Istanbul.
In March 2009, a bar in the Black Sea port of Trabzon was bombed, injuring nine people.
In December 2008, a bomb exploded outside a bank in central Istanbul injuring two people and an office of the governing political party in Istanbul was attacked with a parcel bomb, injuring ten people.
In October 2008, a woman was arrested in downtown Istanbul carrying 10 kilograms of explosive and a detonator in her bag.
In July 2008, twin explosions killed 17 people and injured more than 150 in a busy residential area of Istanbul. The second blast detonated minutes after the first, killing and injuring those who had gone to the scene to help.
Also in July 2008, armed gunmen attacked the US Consulate in Istanbul and killed three police officers.
Clashes between terrorist groups and Turkish security forces occur frequently in the south-east. Turkish militants often act in retaliation to Turkish military action in northern Iraq.
In planning your activities, consider the kind of places known to be terrorist targets and the level of security provided. Possible targets include commercial and public areas frequented by foreigners such as public transport facilities, including buses, mini-buses, trains and railway lines, hotels, bars, clubs, restaurants, cafes, fast food outlets, internet cafes, shopping malls and markets, places of worship and other sites associated with religion, embassies, banks, public gatherings, outdoor recreation events, resorts, tourist areas and their surrounds, including beaches, national parks and forests, and ports, including those used by international cruise liners.
Attacks have been conducted against western government, economic, commercial and political interests, including diplomatic premises such as embassies and consulates. Symbols, buildings and sites associated with Turkish security forces, such as military barracks and police vehicles, government, judiciary and political parties, businesses, places of worship, banks, financial institutions and automatic teller machines have also been targeted.
Borders with Syria, Iraq and Iran: We advise you to reconsider your need to travel to provinces in the southeast of Turkey, including those in the border region with Syria, Iraq and Iran, due to the unpredictable security situation.
The Turkish military has been conducting operations, including air strikes, in south-eastern Turkey and northern Iraq since November 2007. Terrorist groups have retaliated with violence and attacks resulting in multiple deaths are common.
Military strikes may also trigger violent demonstrations, particularly in south-eastern Turkey. In the past, such demonstrations have resulted in deaths, injuries and widespread property destruction. Roadside explosions are common.
Identification is required at checkpoints in this region and restrictions on travel in areas bordering Iraq are enforced. The security situation is more dangerous at night.
Civil Unrest/Political Tension
You should avoid any large gatherings and demonstrations throughout Turkey as they may become violent. International events and political developments may prompt demonstrations. If you are in an area affected by demonstrations, you should find a safe location, remain indoors and follow the advice of local authorities.
In the past, violence has occurred during May Day rallies on 1 May in Istanbul's Taksim Square. The Persian New Year (20-21 March), celebrated by Turkey's Kurdish communities as "Nevruz", has also been accompanied by unrest.
Crime
Muggings, assaults, pickpocketing and bag snatching occur in Turkey, especially in Istanbul in areas where tourists congregate including Taksim Square, Sultanahmet, the Grand Bazaar and the Spice Bazaar.
Foreigners, including Australians, have been drugged and had their passports and other personal effects stolen after being befriended by English-speaking strangers. Drugs may be administered through drinks, food, chewing gum or confectionery. The victim becomes disorientated and compliant and may even become unconscious.
Tourists may be befriended by English-speaking locals, taken to a bar for food or drinks and then expected to pay an inflated bill, often thousands of dollars for a few drinks. Violence is threatened with the demand for payment. These scams are common, particularly in Istanbul. Several Australians have been recent victims.
Sexual assaults have been reported in coastal tourist areas.
Local Travel
Turkey has one of the highest road accident rates in the world and fatalities occur frequently. With the exception of major freeways and arterial roads, the standard of road construction in Turkey is generally poor. Travel at night on most country roads is very dangerous due to inadequate lighting and local driving practices....
Source: Aus.gov

http://www.fco.gov.uk/en/travel-and-liv ... ope/turkey

http://www.jamestown.org/single/?no_cache=1&tx_ttnews[tt_news]=34910



These links prove one thing though; that you are a sad case. These little known organisations with links to radical groups, are in your opinion justification to label all Turks as a 'Bunch of terrorists'? Whay are you nuts? Just because of the IRA, did not make all the Irish terrorists, did it? If I were you I would check what you write and modify your m.o.

Thaks for your very informative links. :?
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Postby wyoming cowboy » Sat Jun 12, 2010 8:30 pm

Gasman wrote:Anyone that doesn't agree that the loss of Turkish lives on that flotilla did not FOCUS WORLD ATTENTION on the plight of the occupants of Gaza is so far in DENIAL they are not worth arguing with!
Anyone sees whatever they want to see...ie the Arabs saw Turkey trying to break the Israeli blockade of Gaza,......the West saw a bunch of hooligans pseudo peace activists attacking Israeli commandoes, and their only choice was to kill the rufians Turks, who also murdered a catholic bishop a day before he was supposed to fly to Cyprus to greet the Pope, who was visiting a Christian Orthodox country being occuppied by the muslim Turks and were subconciously reminded that a muslim Turk tried to assasinate Pope John Paul the II.........
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Postby YFred » Sat Jun 12, 2010 10:02 pm

wyoming cowboy wrote:
Gasman wrote:Anyone that doesn't agree that the loss of Turkish lives on that flotilla did not FOCUS WORLD ATTENTION on the plight of the occupants of Gaza is so far in DENIAL they are not worth arguing with!
Anyone sees whatever they want to see...ie the Arabs saw Turkey trying to break the Israeli blockade of Gaza,......the West saw a bunch of hooligans pseudo peace activists attacking Israeli commandoes, and their only choice was to kill the rufians Turks, who also murdered a catholic bishop a day before he was supposed to fly to Cyprus to greet the Pope, who was visiting a Christian Orthodox country being occuppied by the muslim Turks and were subconciously reminded that a muslim Turk tried to assasinate Pope John Paul the II.........

Perhaps in his thoughts he can leave a little space for a Million people the Christians have killed in Iraq and Afghanistan. As he seems to have access to that dual carriage way to god, if it does exist that is.
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Postby Gasman » Sat Jun 12, 2010 11:05 pm

The western world has condemned Israel's actions.
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Postby YFred » Sat Jun 12, 2010 11:26 pm

Gasman wrote:The western world has condemned Israel's actions.

You better learn sign language and brail, cause our average GC patriot zealot bigot has stopped listening and seeing.
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Postby wyoming cowboy » Sun Jun 13, 2010 6:33 am

Gasman wrote:The western world has condemned Israel's actions.
Do you really think that the average western christian saw what happenned and were in favor of Turkey, when they were hearing that a Catholic Bishop was murdered, you guys are too naive on how the real world works...
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