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[Gasman]

So I take it you are all OK with the huge Israeli investment in the 'TRNC'? Because their government has no control over what they do?

When I posted a photograph of the 'TRNC Travel' Office in Israel - I was accused of making it up lol!

Oh well - if you want to believe these people are your friends and are the enemies of the 'TRNC' and will help you drive them out of Cyprus - go ahead.

My thoughts are that the Israelis probably see nothing wrong with what Turkey did and does in Cyprus - I'd be interested if you have links to Israel soundly condemning them.

[Gasman]

When Mizrachi commented that Turkey was not in a position to criticize Israel's actions in the Palestinian territories when it stations troops in northern Cyprus, the IDF fell over themselves to make it clear that his views did not reflect the 'official' position of the IDF on this matter.

An Israel Defense Forces spokesperson on Saturday said that IDF Maj. Gen. Avi Mizrahi's recent criticism of Turkey does not reflect the official position of the IDF.

"While referring to the criticism of Israel by Turkey, Gen. Mizrahi made statements that could be interpreted as criticism of Turkey's past," said a statement by Brig. Gen. Avi Benayahu, a spokesman for the IDF. We wish to clarify that this is not the official position of the IDF."

[Paphitis]

So I take it you are all OK with the huge Israeli investment in the 'TRNC'? Because their government has no control over what they do?

When I posted a photograph of the 'TRNC Travel' Office in Israel - I was accused of making it up lol!

Oh well - if you want to believe these people are your friends and are the enemies of the 'TRNC' and will help you drive them out of Cyprus - go ahead.

My thoughts are that the Israelis probably see nothing wrong with what Turkey did and does in Cyprus - I'd be interested if you have links to Israel soundly condemning them.

No I am not OK with it anymore than I am OK with the even larger private British investments in the "trnc" and I am also smart enough to understand that neither the UK, Russia or Israel are able to do anything about it even after many warnings issued by Britain's Foreign Office warning investors to not purchase illegitimate lands in occupied Cyprus!

Now grow up!

[Paphitis]

When Mizrachi commented that Turkey was not in a position to criticize Israel's actions in the Palestinian territories when it stations troops in northern Cyprus, the IDF fell over themselves to make it clear that his views did not reflect the 'official' position of the IDF on this matter.

An Israel Defense Forces spokesperson on Saturday said that IDF Maj. Gen. Avi Mizrahi's recent criticism of Turkey does not reflect the official position of the IDF.

"While referring to the criticism of Israel by Turkey, Gen. Mizrahi made statements that could be interpreted as criticism of Turkey's past," said a statement by Brig. Gen. Avi Benayahu, a spokesman for the IDF. We wish to clarify that this is not the official position of the IDF."

The IDF does not have an official position!

[shahmaran]

By welcoming Israel's input towards ridding Turkish influence, we are not offering our beaches in return!

Ironic too that once friendly Israel and Turkey (both bad, but Turkey takes the biscuit) are now enemies. That's life! But, any such change of power politics may be of vicarious help.

They are both enemies because they both have idiot fascist in power at the moment, that will change and everything will go back to normal.

With the history between the Jews and the Turks, and the number of Jewish families who make up quite a huge chunk of the upper class there, you have very little hope.

[shahmaran]

I find it ironic that a country who complains about being "occupied" seeks refuge from a country that actually occupies another one, through murder and illegalities.

You know what is ironic? I had a Smoke Salmon,Capers & Cream Cheese Bagel from the Yiddish Bakery for lunch not a Turkish Bowel Cancer Kebab.

You should try pork gyro, real treat, specially if you want a heart attack at 30

Also salmon being a "Jewish cuisine", is totally ridiculous don't you think?!

They sell it for the people who cannot take that horrendous salt beef sandwich, which is their real cuisine.

Pick the odd one out, desert - sand - sea - arabs - salmon

[shahmaran]

I find it ironic that a country who complains about being "occupied" seeks refuge from a country that actually occupies another one, through murder and illegalities.

Whats Ironic, s an invader occupier (aka Turkey) telling Israel it is guilty of war crimes and crimes against humanity. This very discusting shithole of a country is doing the same it is blasting Israel for. That Ironic, more hypocricy I would say.

Typical Turks, mine mine, yours mine.

I thought that was what Enosis was all about

You are lucky we don't treat you the way the Jews treat the Arabs, that's why little pricks like you find the space to talk so much crap

[shahmaran]

I find it ironic that a country who complains about being "occupied" seeks refuge from a country that actually occupies another one, through murder and illegalities.

Whats Ironic, s an invader occupier (aka Turkey) telling Israel it is guilty of war crimes and crimes against humanity. This very discusting shithole of a country is doing the same it is blasting Israel for. That Ironic, more hypocricy I would say.

Typical Turks, mine mine, yours mine.

And it was OK when Turkey was Israel's number one ally! It wasn't Ironic then!

Now that the tables are turning, the Turks are jumping up and down like a bunch of lunatics!

One thing is for sure, the Cypriots and the Israelis have more right to be where they are than the Turks do.

And yes, I said it before and I will say it again. Israel is a very important country for us. They should and will be our most important ally. Every other country places their interests above all else, and the RoC can't be any different. We have far too much to lose and it is quite interesting that the RoC and Israel have agreed to a fair share of Oil and Gas resources in the region. The only regional bully in this case is Turkey!

You are an idiot, we have the same right to be here as you do.

But the trouble is Turks and Jews have been allies historically, even during the Ottoman era, there is a huge Jewish population in Turkey, who the fuck are you?

30 year old country with only the power to veto everything and that's about it

You are just a whiny little bitch Paphity, nothing more.

[Paphitis]

I find it ironic that a country who complains about being "occupied" seeks refuge from a country that actually occupies another one, through murder and illegalities.

Whats Ironic, s an invader occupier (aka Turkey) telling Israel it is guilty of war crimes and crimes against humanity. This very discusting shithole of a country is doing the same it is blasting Israel for. That Ironic, more hypocricy I would say.

Typical Turks, mine mine, yours mine.

And it was OK when Turkey was Israel's number one ally! It wasn't Ironic then!

Now that the tables are turning, the Turks are jumping up and down like a bunch of lunatics!

One thing is for sure, the Cypriots and the Israelis have more right to be where they are than the Turks do.

And yes, I said it before and I will say it again. Israel is a very important country for us. They should and will be our most important ally. Every other country places their interests above all else, and the RoC can't be any different. We have far too much to lose and it is quite interesting that the RoC and Israel have agreed to a fair share of Oil and Gas resources in the region. The only regional bully in this case is Turkey!

You are an idiot, we have the same right to be here as you do.

As long as your Army stays in Turkey then we don't have a problem!

But the trouble is Turks and Jews have been allies historically, even during the Ottoman era, there is a huge Jewish population in Turkey, who the fuck are you?

Not anymore!

Also, there was a massive Jewish community in Greece, up until the Nazis cleared them out. Sarkhozi, is apparently a Greek citizen of Jewish stock.

30 year old country with only the power to veto everything and that's about it

Well, aint life a bitch!

You are just a whiny little bitch Paphity, nothing more.

And you are an Ottoman remnant and GC serf that is good for nothing other than shining our boots! Now, get on with it boy!

[Oracle]

With the history between the Jews and the Turks, and the number of Jewish families who make up quite a huge chunk of the upper class there, you have very little hope.

Turkish Jews Living Under Threat Of Extremism

By DAVID BEDEIN, Middle East Correspondent

Saturday, November 28, 2009

Jerusalem – A nervous Rabbi recently appeared at The Bulletin’s bureau in Jerusalem and related that the small Jewish community in Turkey feels threatened by the new Islamic resurgence and by the new Turkish alliance with Iran.

As a result, there is a a significant increase in the number of Jews leaving Turkey and immigrating to Israel.

One hundred and thirty five immigrants from Turkey have made the journey this year, compared with 108 in 2008.

The Jewish Agency predicts that, by the year’s end, some 200 immigrants will have come, nearly twice as many as in previous years.

The assessment is based on the fact that, for the first time in many years, Jewish Agency representatives are being swamped with calls. As of now there is a 100 percent increase in those expressing interest in immigrating to Israel, inquiring as to their rights and obligations – and for the first time, a long list of Jews hoping to relocate their businesses from Turkey to Israel.

Most of those asking to register as new immigrants explain that this is due to the new extremist attitudes towards Jews in Turkey.

One of those who have registered, a 39-yard-old father of four who did not give his name, is the owner of a large and prosperous shop in the capital. The man decided to sell his business and move to Israel.

“We are being harassed, Turkey is no longer the same Turkey. They listen to the words of the prime minister and refrain from setting foot in Jewish shops. Turkey is falling into extremism,” he explained.

He said that many of his Jewish colleagues were leaving for the West, not only to Israel, and others were considering doing so.

“We anticipated that the number of people interested in moving to Israel was going to rise, but we didn’t anticipate that there would be such a large number of people who wanted to immigrate and so swiftly,” said a senior Jewish Agency executive. He said that 600 Jews were expected to immigrate to Israel from Turkey in 2010, which is an unprecedented number.

Eli Cohen, the director of the Aliyah Department in the Jewish Agency, personally oversees the immigration of Turkish Jews told the Yediot Ahronot newspaper that “2009 is going to be a very successful year in terms of Aliyah – immigration to Israel – mainly from Turkey. We are pleased with this and have been operating to absorb them across Israel in the best way possible.”

Mr. Cohen said that there has been a 20 percent rise around the world in immigration to Israel, after years in which interest had declined, and that interest in Turkey was significantly higher than that.

“That proves that Israel is the home of the Jewish people. We serve as a safe haven for Jews. We do everything we can to improve the methods of absorption and to give the new immigrants a sense of belonging,” said Mr. Cohen.

Three Jewish families that came from Turkey not long ago currently live in an absorption center in Ashdod. One of the families explained yesterday that the reason they decided to immigrate to Israel was the sense that the Turkish public was taking the statements made by Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan into action.

“I was born in Turkey, I grew up in Turkey, I know the Turks, and they’re tolerant of Jews. Regrettably, in the past year there has been a shift that has hurt the Jews. Curses, anti-Semitic comments, radicalization on the street – all of that left me with no choice. I took my family and immigrated to Israel. Some of my extended family intends to immigrate to Israel or to uproot for America,” said one woman who recently moved to Israel from Turkey.


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