by DT. » Sat Jun 12, 2010 3:28 pm
Bananiot wrote:I hear Qatar is rethinking about investing in the RoC. If the money goes to the occupied areas instead we may be in for a shock, since the moronic "we cannot afford to be choosy" has dominated the political arguments recently as though uttered by a deep thinker.
by Oracle » Sat Jun 12, 2010 4:14 pm
EU Ministers Propose Plan for Ending Gaza Blockade
A group of European Union foreign ministers have proposed a new plan for ending the Israeli blockade of Gaza.
The foreign ministers of France, Italy and Spain proposed having EU monitoring teams in Cyprus inspect Gaza-bound cargo to prevent weapons and other banned items from entering the Palestinian territory.
by denizaksulu » Sat Jun 12, 2010 4:24 pm
Oracle wrote:The EU is backing the Cypriot Peace Efforts in the Middle East ...EU Ministers Propose Plan for Ending Gaza Blockade
A group of European Union foreign ministers have proposed a new plan for ending the Israeli blockade of Gaza.
The foreign ministers of France, Italy and Spain proposed having EU monitoring teams in Cyprus inspect Gaza-bound cargo to prevent weapons and other banned items from entering the Palestinian territory.
http://www1.voanews.com/english/news/eu ... 49979.html
I am pleased for the Gaza'ians. 
)
by Oracle » Sat Jun 12, 2010 4:52 pm
denizaksulu wrote:Oracle wrote:The EU is backing the Cypriot Peace Efforts in the Middle East ...EU Ministers Propose Plan for Ending Gaza Blockade
A group of European Union foreign ministers have proposed a new plan for ending the Israeli blockade of Gaza.
The foreign ministers of France, Italy and Spain proposed having EU monitoring teams in Cyprus inspect Gaza-bound cargo to prevent weapons and other banned items from entering the Palestinian territory.
http://www1.voanews.com/english/news/eu ... 49979.html
You mean Turkeys sacrifice has worked.
(I knew she would come around to the idea that Turkey helped
by insan » Sat Jun 12, 2010 5:01 pm
Oracle wrote:How Turkey’s loss could be a gain for Cyprus
The acrimonious split between the reluctant bride that was Turkey, and the groom Israel, has been a pretty nasty affair, with Turkish prime minister Erdogan accusing Israel in Davos last year of killing people in Gaza and saying "I find it very sad that people applaud what you said (Shimon Peres). You killed people. And I think that it is very wrong."
The operation undertaken by the IDF on the Turkish vessel Mavi Marmaris which resulted in the deaths of at least 10 Turks, signalled the end of any "normal relations" between Ankara and Jerusalem, and has opened the door to a new era of relations between the Republic of Cyprus and Israel.
In London, talks have already begun amongst Greek-Cypriot supporters of Israel, and Israeli officials to lay the "groundwork" as one official has said, for Nicosia to move ahead and work closely with Jerusalem on military, economic, political and cultural co-operation.
One senior Greek-Cypriot politician in London said last night who is close to the talks with Israel said:
"It is time that Cyprus and Israel join together in an alliance to help each other in a region that is full of Islamic extremists and terrorist groups that want one thing, the destruction of the state of Israel and the establishment of Islam in the near and middle east".
In Cyprus this week media commentators have already started arguing for a closer alliance with Israel with Savvas Iacovides of the daily newspaper Simerini saying:
"The Republic of Cyprus is powerless. It does not have the luxury to choose friends and enemies. The enemies, they impose on you. The friends, are chosen, based on mutual interests, how near each one’s objectives are to the other’s, and mutual aims. Let us talk straight and cynically: Our enemy’s enemies, those of the Turkish invaders of Cyprus, are or can be our friends and allies."
Israel has already instructed that its citizens do not go to Turkey for holidays, Greece and Cyprus are eager for extra tourism given the economic problems both economies are facing, and will be seeing more Israelis this summer.
With Turkey now deepening its commercial ties with Arab countries with a new trade accord with Lebanon, Syria and Jordan, this surely underlines Turkey’s objective to turn to its historical and political past and work with the Islamic world.
By Turkey moving to the east, this does not mean Cyprus and Greece cannot have a good relationship with Turkey, but there must be a move to embrace Israel and signal that the Hellenes are the natural allies for Israel, and not with Turkey.
http://www.thelondondailynews.com/turke ... -4224.html
According to the report, Turkey would supervise all humanitarian aid entering Gaza, as well as commit to preventing the entry of weapons and money destined for Hamas.
In this position, Turkey would play a meaningful role in lifting the blockade of Gaza and a central figure in the Middle East which will enable the Islamic country to mediate between Israel and the Arab world in the future, as Turkey has sought in the past.
The report has not yet been validated by Turkish or Israeli officials.
by denizaksulu » Sat Jun 12, 2010 5:10 pm
Oracle wrote:denizaksulu wrote:Oracle wrote:The EU is backing the Cypriot Peace Efforts in the Middle East ...EU Ministers Propose Plan for Ending Gaza Blockade
A group of European Union foreign ministers have proposed a new plan for ending the Israeli blockade of Gaza.
The foreign ministers of France, Italy and Spain proposed having EU monitoring teams in Cyprus inspect Gaza-bound cargo to prevent weapons and other banned items from entering the Palestinian territory.
http://www1.voanews.com/english/news/eu ... 49979.html
You mean Turkeys sacrifice has worked.
(I knew she would come around to the idea that Turkey helped
If you think that Turkey, in trying to establish a route to arm terrorists across the region (Turkey-Gaza), has helped make the EU stand up and take notice how Turkey has been abusing the area it occupies in Cyprus; then you will realize what we have been saying all week and why this may be, finally, how the EU (and Israel/USA) work with us to remove the Turks. Eventually, if the other, more powerful, nations (Israel/USA) want to go a step further and totally tear apart Turkey into safer, smaller chunks (e.g. for the long-suffering Kurds) then we may see an end to this most belligerent of neighbours.
Now you know why Paphitis has been celebrating with his new flag ...
by Oracle » Sat Jun 12, 2010 5:10 pm
insan wrote:Oracle wrote:How Turkey’s loss could be a gain for Cyprus
The acrimonious split between the reluctant bride that was Turkey, and the groom Israel, has been a pretty nasty affair, with Turkish prime minister Erdogan accusing Israel in Davos last year of killing people in Gaza and saying "I find it very sad that people applaud what you said (Shimon Peres). You killed people. And I think that it is very wrong."
The operation undertaken by the IDF on the Turkish vessel Mavi Marmaris which resulted in the deaths of at least 10 Turks, signalled the end of any "normal relations" between Ankara and Jerusalem, and has opened the door to a new era of relations between the Republic of Cyprus and Israel.
In London, talks have already begun amongst Greek-Cypriot supporters of Israel, and Israeli officials to lay the "groundwork" as one official has said, for Nicosia to move ahead and work closely with Jerusalem on military, economic, political and cultural co-operation.
One senior Greek-Cypriot politician in London said last night who is close to the talks with Israel said:
"It is time that Cyprus and Israel join together in an alliance to help each other in a region that is full of Islamic extremists and terrorist groups that want one thing, the destruction of the state of Israel and the establishment of Islam in the near and middle east".
In Cyprus this week media commentators have already started arguing for a closer alliance with Israel with Savvas Iacovides of the daily newspaper Simerini saying:
"The Republic of Cyprus is powerless. It does not have the luxury to choose friends and enemies. The enemies, they impose on you. The friends, are chosen, based on mutual interests, how near each one’s objectives are to the other’s, and mutual aims. Let us talk straight and cynically: Our enemy’s enemies, those of the Turkish invaders of Cyprus, are or can be our friends and allies."
Israel has already instructed that its citizens do not go to Turkey for holidays, Greece and Cyprus are eager for extra tourism given the economic problems both economies are facing, and will be seeing more Israelis this summer.
With Turkey now deepening its commercial ties with Arab countries with a new trade accord with Lebanon, Syria and Jordan, this surely underlines Turkey’s objective to turn to its historical and political past and work with the Islamic world.
By Turkey moving to the east, this does not mean Cyprus and Greece cannot have a good relationship with Turkey, but there must be a move to embrace Israel and signal that the Hellenes are the natural allies for Israel, and not with Turkey.
http://www.thelondondailynews.com/turke ... -4224.html
Sorry dear that i've just shattered your dreams(one more time?)...According to the report, Turkey would supervise all humanitarian aid entering Gaza, as well as commit to preventing the entry of weapons and money destined for Hamas.
In this position, Turkey would play a meaningful role in lifting the blockade of Gaza and a central figure in the Middle East which will enable the Islamic country to mediate between Israel and the Arab world in the future, as Turkey has sought in the past.
http://www.cyprus-forum.com/posting.php ... e&p=593576
Though still there's a little hope...The report has not yet been validated by Turkish or Israeli officials.
http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-d ... s-1.295714
by insan » Sat Jun 12, 2010 5:31 pm
Oracle wrote:insan wrote:Oracle wrote:How Turkey’s loss could be a gain for Cyprus
The acrimonious split between the reluctant bride that was Turkey, and the groom Israel, has been a pretty nasty affair, with Turkish prime minister Erdogan accusing Israel in Davos last year of killing people in Gaza and saying "I find it very sad that people applaud what you said (Shimon Peres). You killed people. And I think that it is very wrong."
The operation undertaken by the IDF on the Turkish vessel Mavi Marmaris which resulted in the deaths of at least 10 Turks, signalled the end of any "normal relations" between Ankara and Jerusalem, and has opened the door to a new era of relations between the Republic of Cyprus and Israel.
In London, talks have already begun amongst Greek-Cypriot supporters of Israel, and Israeli officials to lay the "groundwork" as one official has said, for Nicosia to move ahead and work closely with Jerusalem on military, economic, political and cultural co-operation.
One senior Greek-Cypriot politician in London said last night who is close to the talks with Israel said:
"It is time that Cyprus and Israel join together in an alliance to help each other in a region that is full of Islamic extremists and terrorist groups that want one thing, the destruction of the state of Israel and the establishment of Islam in the near and middle east".
In Cyprus this week media commentators have already started arguing for a closer alliance with Israel with Savvas Iacovides of the daily newspaper Simerini saying:
"The Republic of Cyprus is powerless. It does not have the luxury to choose friends and enemies. The enemies, they impose on you. The friends, are chosen, based on mutual interests, how near each one’s objectives are to the other’s, and mutual aims. Let us talk straight and cynically: Our enemy’s enemies, those of the Turkish invaders of Cyprus, are or can be our friends and allies."
Israel has already instructed that its citizens do not go to Turkey for holidays, Greece and Cyprus are eager for extra tourism given the economic problems both economies are facing, and will be seeing more Israelis this summer.
With Turkey now deepening its commercial ties with Arab countries with a new trade accord with Lebanon, Syria and Jordan, this surely underlines Turkey’s objective to turn to its historical and political past and work with the Islamic world.
By Turkey moving to the east, this does not mean Cyprus and Greece cannot have a good relationship with Turkey, but there must be a move to embrace Israel and signal that the Hellenes are the natural allies for Israel, and not with Turkey.
http://www.thelondondailynews.com/turke ... -4224.html
Sorry dear that i've just shattered your dreams(one more time?)...According to the report, Turkey would supervise all humanitarian aid entering Gaza, as well as commit to preventing the entry of weapons and money destined for Hamas.
In this position, Turkey would play a meaningful role in lifting the blockade of Gaza and a central figure in the Middle East which will enable the Islamic country to mediate between Israel and the Arab world in the future, as Turkey has sought in the past.
http://www.cyprus-forum.com/posting.php ... e&p=593576
Though still there's a little hope...The report has not yet been validated by Turkish or Israeli officials.
http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-d ... s-1.295714
That might be what Turkey wants, but if you see my post further up, you will see that it is NOT what Turkey is going to get!
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/11/opini ... chner.html
The E.U., which on Dec. 8 adopted a strong, ambitious text concerning the broad lines of a future settlement, must itself move forward with the parties, in conjunction with U.S. mediation, with a view to the building and recognition of a Palestinian state living in peace and security side by side with Israel.
U.S. President Barack Obama has updated America's official vision of Israel's future to stress that the Jewish state must ensure equal rights for Israeli Arabs. His new National Security Strategy, released by the White House last month, defines the two-state solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict in a way that differs from the terminology used by previous American administrations. According to the document, the U.S. seeks two states that will live side by side in peace and security: "a Jewish state of Israel, with true security, acceptance, and rights for all Israelis; and a viable, independent Palestine with contiguous territory that ends the occupation that began in 1967 and realizes the potential of the Palestinian people."
by Gasman » Sat Jun 12, 2010 5:50 pm
by Oracle » Sat Jun 12, 2010 6:04 pm
insan wrote:The E.U., which on Dec. 8 adopted a strong, ambitious text concerning the broad lines of a future settlement, must itself move forward with the parties, in conjunction with U.S. mediation, with a view to the building and recognition of a Palestinian state living in peace and security side by side with Israel.
Was it the above quoted part you wished to highlight in your source but couldn't dare? What if they follow the suit for Cyprus too?
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