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[Malapapa]

DNA study confirms geographical origin of Jews

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/ar ... y8VoeNc26A

PARIS — New research has found Jews share a genetic bond with Cypriots and Druze and confirms the Jewish diaspora maintained a strong DNA continuity despite its long separation from the Middle East, scientists said on Wednesday.

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More unexpected, though, was the discovery that Jewish patterns of SNPs were closer to those of Cypriots and Druze than with the other populations of the Middle East.



Oi re! Oy vey!

[Malapapa]

They're rejoicing in the States....

[denizaksulu]

Gets more complicated by the minute.

The lost 13th tribe of the exiled Jews............the Khazars (supposedly Turkic)...............Jews and common links with Cypriots..........hey Presto.

OMG. Ancient Cypriots are...................T.. I can possibly say it.


http://www.sullivan-county.com/identity/khazars.htm

THE KHAZARS

INTRODUCTION

Some believe the theory that modern day "Jews" are not in fact physically descended from Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, but are instead descended from the KHAZARS, supposedly a Turkish, non-semitic race. Those who hold this view include

IDENTITY (British Israelism): those who believe ANGLO-SAXONS to be the 10 LOST TRIBES of Israel.

WHITE SUPREMACISTS

NEO-NAZIS

For more information on these hate groups see the following:

Paranoia as Patriotism: Aryan Nations
Christian Identity: A Religion for White Racists and Jew Bashers
Willie Martin and Christian Identity on Trial Neo-Nazi Cult
Background on Arthur Koestler
Protocols of Zion Fraud
Randy Weaver gets the Boot in Vegas
Randy Weaver Visits Tri-Cities, Gets It Wrong Again
Since these groups form a fringe that is not edifying to orthodox Bible base Christianity it seemed good to address them and their erroneous beliefs.

ABOUT THE KAZARS

It is proposed that around the 8th century (A.D.) the (non-Jewish) KHAZARS converted to Judaism en masse, and later spread out to become the "Jewish" populations of eastern Europe. Therefore those who call themselves "JEWS" today (they say) are not really Jews at all. We would like to point out the historical data on the subject, and show the weaknesses in this theory.

THE SIGNIFICANCE of this is their following "arguments:

The "JEWS" today are NOT really Jews, and therefore not recipients of GOD's promises to Israel

The real Jews are the CAUCASIAN people, the true (so they say) descendants of Israel, and therefore the promises and prophecies apply to WHITE AMERICANS

The 1948 re-establishment of the NATION OF ISRAEL is NOT a fulfillment of prophecy.

NOTE: Let us point out that we am using the word "JEW" as it is commonly understood today: a reference to all physical descendants of Jacob (Israel) from any of the 12 tribes. We are well aware (as the white supremacists constantly point out) that the word etymologically comes from "JUDAH," which is only one of the 12 tribes, but word usage often changes over time and so we use the term as most English-speaking people today understand it: any Israelite from any of the 12 tribes.

KHAZARS: A RESPONSE TO THE THIRTEENTH TRIBE by Arthur Koestler

Here are some sources that allude to the above theory, pro and con:

ENCYCLOPEDIA BRITANNICA: "A few scholars have even asserted that the Judaized Khazars were the remote ancestors of many of the Jews of eastern Europe and Russia."

JEWISH ENCYCLOPEDIA (1906): "Many (Khazars) intermingled in the Crimea with the local Jews; the Krimtschaki are probably their descendants-perhaps some of the Subotniki also.... Some went to Hungary, but the great mass of the people remained in their native country. Many members of the Khazarian royal family emigrated to Spain."

UNIVERSAL JEWISH ENCYCLOPEDIA (1945): "Descendants of the Khazar Jews are believed to have migrated to Kiev and other parts of Russia."

ENCYCLOPEDIA JUDAICA (1973): "Groups have been mentioned as migrating to Central Europe from the East or have been referred to as Khazars, thus making it impossible to overlook the possibility that they originated from within the former Khazar Empire. The Turkish-speaking Karaites [Jews] of the Crimea, Poland, and elsewhere have affirmed a connection with the Khazars, which is perhaps confirmed by evidence from folklore and anthropology as well as language. There seems to be a considerable amount of evidence attesting to the continued presence in Europe of descendants of the Khazars."

D.M. DUNLOP, HISTORY OF THE JEWISH KHAZARS (Princeton Univ. Press, 1954): "It only remains now to consider the theory that the modern Jews of eastern Europe, or more particularly those in Poland, are the descendants of the medieval Khazars. This can be dealt with very shortly, because there is LITTLE EVIDENCE which bears directly upon it, and it unavoidably retains the character of a mere assumption. ... To speak of the Jews of eastern Europe as descendants of the Khazars...would be to GO MUCH BEYOND WHAT OUR IMPERFECT RECORDS ALLOW." (pp. 261,263. Emphasis has been added to quotations. Dunlop is a source book for Koestler. Koestler believes the theory that east European Jews are descendants of the Khazars.)

WHO WERE THE KHAZARS?

The Khazar Empire was located between the Caspian and Black Seas in what is now southern Russia. The empire flourished from about the 6th to the 10th centuries. They are mentioned in Arab, Jewish, Greek and Byzantine literature from mid-6th to mid-13th centuries. Where they came from is uncertain. Where they ended up after their fall is unknown for sure. The 2 Khazar contributions to history are:

they stopped the advance of the Muslims about the same time Charles Martel defeated the Muslims at the battle of Tours (732). If not for the Khazars the Muslims might have taken over Europe, and we might all be Mohammedans today;

THE CONVERSION TO JUDAISM of the Khazar king and his court about 740 A.D.(?).

THE SOURCES OF INFORMATION

The Khazars are mentioned in several sources, dating from the 6th to the 13th centuries.

There are about half a dozen or more BYZANTINE sources, ......................

[denizaksulu]

So when Oracle calls GR a Turk she IS CORRECT for a change

[Cap]

So when Oracle calls GR a Turk she IS CORRECT for a change

lol

[Oracle]

Gets more complicated by the minute.

The lost 13th tribe of the exiled Jews..........

Deniz ... I wonder why you felt the need to post this? Are you feeling insecure, again?

[Oracle]

DNA study confirms geographical origin of Jews

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/ar ... y8VoeNc26A

PARIS — New research has found Jews share a genetic bond with Cypriots and Druze and confirms the Jewish diaspora maintained a strong DNA continuity despite its long separation from the Middle East, scientists said on Wednesday.

....

More unexpected, though, was the discovery that Jewish patterns of SNPs were closer to those of Cypriots and Druze than with the other populations of the Middle East.



Oi re! Oy vey!

No surprises here as well. The picture which is unfolding, with correctly compared SNPs, is that relatedness fits in with the accurate historical records of migrations and closest neighbour analysis.

This is what the Turks fear the most (see Deniz's reaction) and their only way to claim some reason for a presence in Asia Minor is if they hold on to Kurds et al., to substantiate (murky) linkage data.

[Oracle]

They're rejoicing in the States....

So Malapapa ... now you identify the natives of Cyprus (related to neighbouring Jews) as Greek Key banner bouzouki players!

Nice progress ... I knew it would happen in the end!

We have gone full circle and are now back as all part of the Greek World ... Jews and all!

[Malapapa]

They're rejoicing in the States....

So Malapapa ... now you identify the natives of Cyprus (related to neighbouring Jews) as Greek Key banner bouzouki players!

Not at all. And you misunderstand why they are rejoicing. The Greek Americans are relieved that a far more powerful and effective Lobby will be taking up the Cypriot cause.

[denizaksulu]

Gets more complicated by the minute.

The lost 13th tribe of the exiled Jews..........

Deniz ... I wonder why you felt the need to post this? Are you feeling insecure, again?

Are you stalking me?