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Postby denizaksulu » Fri Jun 11, 2010 11:53 pm

Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
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denizaksulu wrote: I was posting to show what scientist come up with at different times. I just saw the funny side of it, that all. Wake up chaps fcs. :roll: God knows what some other crackpot will come up with next year. :lol: :lol:


What YOU posted was NOT scientific!

Are you disputing a peer reviewed Nature paper?


Dont you now pretend you do not have a sense of humour. I saw the funny side of all these 'works', only you couldn't. It is as funny as you calling GR a 'Turk' fcs. :roll: (which was funny) :lol: :lol:


What's the funny side? That Turks, despite their overwhelming physical presence, have no historical migratory reasons for their overwhelming expansionism and control in this part of the world?



Oh loosen up woman will ya. I did and you do not see the funny side. That is what differentiates people from one another - variance.
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Postby YFred » Fri Jun 11, 2010 11:58 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote: I was posting to show what scientist come up with at different times. I just saw the funny side of it, that all. Wake up chaps fcs. :roll: God knows what some other crackpot will come up with next year. :lol: :lol:


What YOU posted was NOT scientific!

Are you disputing a peer reviewed Nature paper?


Dont you now pretend you do not have a sense of humour. I saw the funny side of all these 'works', only you couldn't. It is as funny as you calling GR a 'Turk' fcs. :roll: (which was funny) :lol: :lol:


What's the funny side? That Turks, despite their overwhelming physical presence, have no historical migratory reasons for their overwhelming expansionism and control in this part of the world?



Oh loosen up woman will ya. I did and you do not see the funny side. That is what differentiates people from one another - variance.

Deniz it is not differentiation we are seeking, it is integration. But if you insist on variance then for goodness sake make sure you have baseline set up.
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Postby denizaksulu » Sat Jun 12, 2010 12:04 am

YFred wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote: I was posting to show what scientist come up with at different times. I just saw the funny side of it, that all. Wake up chaps fcs. :roll: God knows what some other crackpot will come up with next year. :lol: :lol:


What YOU posted was NOT scientific!

Are you disputing a peer reviewed Nature paper?


Dont you now pretend you do not have a sense of humour. I saw the funny side of all these 'works', only you couldn't. It is as funny as you calling GR a 'Turk' fcs. :roll: (which was funny) :lol: :lol:


What's the funny side? That Turks, despite their overwhelming physical presence, have no historical migratory reasons for their overwhelming expansionism and control in this part of the world?



Oh loosen up woman will ya. I did and you do not see the funny side. That is what differentiates people from one another - variance.

Deniz it is not differentiation we are seeking, it is integration. But if you insist on variance then for goodness sake make sure you have baseline set up.



:shock: :shock:


Dont complicate matters Yfred. O might blow a fuse. :lol:
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Postby YFred » Sat Jun 12, 2010 12:11 am

denizaksulu wrote:
YFred wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote: I was posting to show what scientist come up with at different times. I just saw the funny side of it, that all. Wake up chaps fcs. :roll: God knows what some other crackpot will come up with next year. :lol: :lol:


What YOU posted was NOT scientific!

Are you disputing a peer reviewed Nature paper?


Dont you now pretend you do not have a sense of humour. I saw the funny side of all these 'works', only you couldn't. It is as funny as you calling GR a 'Turk' fcs. :roll: (which was funny) :lol: :lol:


What's the funny side? That Turks, despite their overwhelming physical presence, have no historical migratory reasons for their overwhelming expansionism and control in this part of the world?



Oh loosen up woman will ya. I did and you do not see the funny side. That is what differentiates people from one another - variance.

Deniz it is not differentiation we are seeking, it is integration. But if you insist on variance then for goodness sake make sure you have baseline set up.



:shock: :shock:


Dont complicate matters Yfred. O might blow a fuse. :lol:

Is she steaming yet. Recently she left me alone, don't get me wrong, I am not complaining, just merely making an observation.

Has she got her baseline. Or is she tied up?
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Re: Jews and Cypriots share genetic bond...

Postby Get Real! » Sat Jun 12, 2010 12:53 am

Malapapa wrote:DNA study confirms geographical origin of Jews

If that’s the case then Israel has an obligation to declare war on Turkey! :wink: Unlike stupid Greece who had run away because they knew their mythologies had gone too far! :roll:
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Re: Jews and Cypriots share genetic bond...

Postby Oracle » Sat Jun 12, 2010 9:28 am

Get Real! wrote:
Malapapa wrote:DNA study confirms geographical origin of Jews

If that’s the case then Israel has an obligation to declare war on Turkey! :wink: Unlike stupid Greece who had run away because they knew their mythologies had gone too far! :roll:


Let's see if you will allow your brain to take in all the sources one would use to build up a picture of emergence of people in these regions:


A modern Historian armed with Malapapa's source;

Jews share a genetic bond with Cypriots



... plus this one from Lit;

the small vessels were used to carry precious liquids from Cyprus and Mycenae, Greece, 3,500 years ago. These vessels were replicated by people in those areas, illustrating a link between the regions [Israel],

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... 75&start=0

... would naturally conclude that the Mycenaeans of Greece and Cyprus traded and mixed with the the Jews since many thousands of years ago.

United by blood and historical culture to resist the modern day ( last few centuries) expansionist enemy, Turkey, which threatens our presence on this planet!
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Re: Jews and Cypriots share genetic bond...

Postby Oracle » Sat Jun 12, 2010 9:45 am

Get Real! wrote:
Malapapa wrote:DNA study confirms geographical origin of Jews

If that’s the case then Israel has an obligation to declare war on Turkey! :wink: Unlike stupid Greece who had run away because they knew their mythologies had gone too far! :roll:


I'll remind you how you have now done an about-turn (the kind you have been accusing others of [falsely] doing); ...

Epiktitos wrote:Image

A woman weeps during the deportation of the Jews of Ioannina on March 25, 1944. The deportation was enforced by the German army. Almost all of the people deported were murdered on or shortly after April 11, 1944, when the train carrying them reached Auschwitz-Berkinau.


These Jews' ancestors had been living with Greeks for thousands of years trading, working and travelling together all over the eastern Mediterranean for thousands of years (evidence from historical records plus genetics and antiquities) ....

Yet you said for the above photo:

Get Real wrote:I no longer look at WWII photos in the same way that I did in the past because today I know that the Jews turned out to be as bad if not worse than the Nazis once they had attained power.

These days when I see pictures of Jews in concentration camps, etc, I can’t help but think to myself… “I guess Hitler knew something about the Jews that the rest didn’t…”


Thankfully, Hitler didn't succeed in eliminating all the Jews of the world and their survival skills (plus ours) can now be used to defeat the followers/followees of Hitler and Turkey!
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Re: Jews and Cypriots share genetic bond...

Postby denizaksulu » Sat Jun 12, 2010 10:23 am

Oracle wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Malapapa wrote:DNA study confirms geographical origin of Jews

If that’s the case then Israel has an obligation to declare war on Turkey! :wink: Unlike stupid Greece who had run away because they knew their mythologies had gone too far! :roll:


I'll remind you how you have now done an about-turn (the kind you have been accusing others of [falsely] doing); ...

Epiktitos wrote:Image

A woman weeps during the deportation of the Jews of Ioannina on March 25, 1944. The deportation was enforced by the German army. Almost all of the people deported were murdered on or shortly after April 11, 1944, when the train carrying them reached Auschwitz-Berkinau.


These Jews' ancestors had been living with Greeks for thousands of years trading, working and travelling together all over the eastern Mediterranean for thousands of years (evidence from historical records plus genetics and antiquities) ....

Yet you said for the above photo:

Get Real wrote:I no longer look at WWII photos in the same way that I did in the past because today I know that the Jews turned out to be as bad if not worse than the Nazis once they had attained power.

These days when I see pictures of Jews in concentration camps, etc, I can’t help but think to myself… “I guess Hitler knew something about the Jews that the rest didn’t…”


Thankfully, Hitler didn't succeed in eliminating all the Jews of the world and their survival skills (plus ours) can now be used to defeat the followers/followees of Hitler and Turkey!



May I remind the lady of 'some misinformation' that most of these Jews (of Thesalonika) were resettled there by the Ottomans after they were expelled from Iberia. I am not denying that there may have been some Jews there before as the Jewish diaspora was very widespread. They should thank the Ottomans for their survival. Did the Greeks do much to help these poor Jews, that so many died in Auschwitz?
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Re: Jews and Cypriots share genetic bond...

Postby Oracle » Sat Jun 12, 2010 10:33 am

denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Malapapa wrote:DNA study confirms geographical origin of Jews

If that’s the case then Israel has an obligation to declare war on Turkey! :wink: Unlike stupid Greece who had run away because they knew their mythologies had gone too far! :roll:


I'll remind you how you have now done an about-turn (the kind you have been accusing others of [falsely] doing); ...

Epiktitos wrote:Image

A woman weeps during the deportation of the Jews of Ioannina on March 25, 1944. The deportation was enforced by the German army. Almost all of the people deported were murdered on or shortly after April 11, 1944, when the train carrying them reached Auschwitz-Berkinau.


These Jews' ancestors had been living with Greeks for thousands of years trading, working and travelling together all over the eastern Mediterranean for thousands of years (evidence from historical records plus genetics and antiquities) ....

Yet you said for the above photo:

Get Real wrote:I no longer look at WWII photos in the same way that I did in the past because today I know that the Jews turned out to be as bad if not worse than the Nazis once they had attained power.

These days when I see pictures of Jews in concentration camps, etc, I can’t help but think to myself… “I guess Hitler knew something about the Jews that the rest didn’t…”


Thankfully, Hitler didn't succeed in eliminating all the Jews of the world and their survival skills (plus ours) can now be used to defeat the followers/followees of Hitler and Turkey!



May I remind the lady of 'some misinformation' that most of these Jews (of Thesalonika) were resettled there by the Ottomans after they were expelled from Iberia. I am not denying that there may have been some Jews there before as the Jewish diaspora was very widespread. They should thank the Ottomans for their survival. Did the Greeks do much to help these poor Jews, that so many died in Auschwitz?


You're wrong, Deniz! They were there long before the Ottomans. From their own website:

Oral history claims that Jews inhabited the Epirus area from the period just after the destruction of the Second Temple in Jerusalem in 7OCE.
The earliest documented evidence of a Jewish presence in janina is recorded from the 9th century.


There are many "stories" of how much Greece did to thwart Hitler's genocide of the Jews in WWII. Shame on you Deniz. Greece sustained some of the severest casualties/capita fighting the Italians and then, weakened, fighting the Germans.

Now we have the (continually menacing) Turks to contend with.
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Re: Jews and Cypriots share genetic bond...

Postby Lit » Sat Jun 12, 2010 10:38 am

denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Malapapa wrote:DNA study confirms geographical origin of Jews

If that’s the case then Israel has an obligation to declare war on Turkey! :wink: Unlike stupid Greece who had run away because they knew their mythologies had gone too far! :roll:


I'll remind you how you have now done an about-turn (the kind you have been accusing others of [falsely] doing); ...

Epiktitos wrote:Image

A woman weeps during the deportation of the Jews of Ioannina on March 25, 1944. The deportation was enforced by the German army. Almost all of the people deported were murdered on or shortly after April 11, 1944, when the train carrying them reached Auschwitz-Berkinau.


These Jews' ancestors had been living with Greeks for thousands of years trading, working and travelling together all over the eastern Mediterranean for thousands of years (evidence from historical records plus genetics and antiquities) ....

Yet you said for the above photo:

Get Real wrote:I no longer look at WWII photos in the same way that I did in the past because today I know that the Jews turned out to be as bad if not worse than the Nazis once they had attained power.

These days when I see pictures of Jews in concentration camps, etc, I can’t help but think to myself… “I guess Hitler knew something about the Jews that the rest didn’t…”


Thankfully, Hitler didn't succeed in eliminating all the Jews of the world and their survival skills (plus ours) can now be used to defeat the followers/followees of Hitler and Turkey!



May I remind the lady of 'some misinformation' that most of these Jews (of Thesalonika) were resettled there by the Ottomans after they were expelled from Iberia. I am not denying that there may have been some Jews there before as the Jewish diaspora was very widespread. They should thank the Ottomans for their survival. Did the Greeks do much to help these poor Jews, that so many died in Auschwitz?


What an idiotic comment to make. You cant rewrite history. Many Greeks died fighting the Nazis.

From the International Raoul Wallenberg Foundation:
http://www.raoulwallenberg.net/?en/news ... s.2992.htm

During the Holocaust, Archbishop Damaskinos and Athens police chief Angelos Evert saved thousands of Greek Jews.

Although an estimated 87% of the nation's Jewish population -- 60,000 to 70,000 Greek Jews -- perished during the Holocaust, 10,000 survived, largely due to the Greek people's refusal to cooperate with German plans for deportations.
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