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Postby Paphitis » Wed Jun 09, 2010 7:16 pm

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Paphitis wrote:No one said that Neolithic man was a cave dweller waiting for the Greeks to come along and bring in new "modern ways" mate. :lol:

This is just some credible evidence that Greek seafarers had developed trade routes from Greece and Cyprus into the Middle East spreading Greek Culture and artifacts, which intermingled and blended with any local influences!


My dear Paphitis, aren't you again confirming what I may or may not have accused you of earlier when you give this one way route of ...from Greece to...Cy ... to ....

My point really is that the routes were omni-directional, it wasn't one way traffic. Much like today with our vast and complicated world wide web.


Yes Bill. Trade routes are omni-directional and all that. I was merely referring to Greek trade routes and perhaps the creation of the odd Greek trading station (settlement) in Cyprus and elsewhere in the Mediterranean.

Did not mention anyone waiting in caves for Greeks to come along to spread civilisation.
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Postby Oracle » Wed Jun 09, 2010 7:32 pm

I'm surprised that seemingly intelligent people can continue to deny the evidence unfolding around them, preferring instead to believe in some mythical dweller who emerged out of the waves, unrelated to anyone else and especially to the most ubiquitous and gregarious Greeks; instead of fitting the pieces of the puzzle together and accepting the highly supported fact that the people who made Greece and Cyprus so rich and civilised, are ONE and the same.

It's like those who deny all the fossil evidence and disbelieve the unifying theory of evolution but prefer the myth of a God who sprung up in some mysterious way.
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Postby denizaksulu » Wed Jun 09, 2010 8:59 pm

bill cobbett wrote:Gawd ... :shock: .... talk about stretching things to breaking point and beyond with the usual greekness codswallop.

These and so many other finds confirm that people thousands of years ago were far more adventurous in their travels and sea-faring and in developing trade routes than we sometimes give them credit for.... and it proves an inter-relationship between centres of population based on these tradings, within a web of areas influencing one another, with new technologies of value being replicated or with a similarly multi-directional spread of ideas.

Early Man/Woman invented Networking.

(Please get it out of your heads... this idea that neolithic and bronze age people were sitting around in caves dressed in animal skins waiting for the geeks to come along and bring in new modern ways. They travelled, they inter-mixed, ideas spreading from group to group.)



If the Greeks travelled so did the inhabitants of these lands too. I am sure they were generous with there seed.

:lol:
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Postby Paphitis » Wed Jun 09, 2010 10:13 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:Gawd ... :shock: .... talk about stretching things to breaking point and beyond with the usual greekness codswallop.

These and so many other finds confirm that people thousands of years ago were far more adventurous in their travels and sea-faring and in developing trade routes than we sometimes give them credit for.... and it proves an inter-relationship between centres of population based on these tradings, within a web of areas influencing one another, with new technologies of value being replicated or with a similarly multi-directional spread of ideas.

Early Man/Woman invented Networking.

(Please get it out of your heads... this idea that neolithic and bronze age people were sitting around in caves dressed in animal skins waiting for the geeks to come along and bring in new modern ways. They travelled, they inter-mixed, ideas spreading from group to group.)



If the Greeks travelled so did the inhabitants of these lands too. I am sure they were generous with there seed.

:lol:


At the time, the main Seafarers were Greeks and Phoenicians!
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Postby EricSeans » Wed Jun 09, 2010 10:23 pm

The old ship in Kyrenia Castle is from this period, isn't she? Pity the authorities there haven't had the decency to credit the sponge diver who discovered her. I e-mailed Talat's office about this ages ago. No reply...
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Postby denizaksulu » Wed Jun 09, 2010 10:39 pm

Paphitis wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:Gawd ... :shock: .... talk about stretching things to breaking point and beyond with the usual greekness codswallop.

These and so many other finds confirm that people thousands of years ago were far more adventurous in their travels and sea-faring and in developing trade routes than we sometimes give them credit for.... and it proves an inter-relationship between centres of population based on these tradings, within a web of areas influencing one another, with new technologies of value being replicated or with a similarly multi-directional spread of ideas.

Early Man/Woman invented Networking.

(Please get it out of your heads... this idea that neolithic and bronze age people were sitting around in caves dressed in animal skins waiting for the geeks to come along and bring in new modern ways. They travelled, they inter-mixed, ideas spreading from group to group.)



If the Greeks travelled so did the inhabitants of these lands too. I am sure they were generous with there seed.

:lol:


At the time, the main Seafarers were Greeks and Phoenicians!



Did you look at the map where the artifacts were found? That was Gasmans posted link. Southern Phoenicia covered the area mentioned.
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Postby Oracle » Wed Jun 09, 2010 10:41 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:Gawd ... :shock: .... talk about stretching things to breaking point and beyond with the usual greekness codswallop.

These and so many other finds confirm that people thousands of years ago were far more adventurous in their travels and sea-faring and in developing trade routes than we sometimes give them credit for.... and it proves an inter-relationship between centres of population based on these tradings, within a web of areas influencing one another, with new technologies of value being replicated or with a similarly multi-directional spread of ideas.

Early Man/Woman invented Networking.

(Please get it out of your heads... this idea that neolithic and bronze age people were sitting around in caves dressed in animal skins waiting for the geeks to come along and bring in new modern ways. They travelled, they inter-mixed, ideas spreading from group to group.)



If the Greeks travelled so did the inhabitants of these lands too. I am sure they were generous with there seed.

:lol:


At the time, the main Seafarers were Greeks and Phoenicians!



Did you look at the map where the artifacts were found? That was Gasmans posted link. Southern Phoenicia covered the area mentioned.


Did you miss out the bit about Mycenaeans - Cyprus? The article didn't mention Phoenicians. Although the Greeks of Mycenae and Cyprus traded with the Phoenicians these were not Phoenician artefacts. They had obviously been brought over, or made according to Mycenaean-Cypriot styles abroad. This confirms the friendly trading routes observed by the Mycenaeans.
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Postby denizaksulu » Wed Jun 09, 2010 10:44 pm

Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:Gawd ... :shock: .... talk about stretching things to breaking point and beyond with the usual greekness codswallop.

These and so many other finds confirm that people thousands of years ago were far more adventurous in their travels and sea-faring and in developing trade routes than we sometimes give them credit for.... and it proves an inter-relationship between centres of population based on these tradings, within a web of areas influencing one another, with new technologies of value being replicated or with a similarly multi-directional spread of ideas.

Early Man/Woman invented Networking.

(Please get it out of your heads... this idea that neolithic and bronze age people were sitting around in caves dressed in animal skins waiting for the geeks to come along and bring in new modern ways. They travelled, they inter-mixed, ideas spreading from group to group.)



If the Greeks travelled so did the inhabitants of these lands too. I am sure they were generous with there seed.

:lol:


At the time, the main Seafarers were Greeks and Phoenicians!



Did you look at the map where the artifacts were found? That was Gasmans posted link. Southern Phoenicia covered the area mentioned.


Did you miss out the bit about Mycenaeans - Cyprus? The article didn't mention Phoenicians.


O woman, Paphitis did. :roll:
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Postby Paphitis » Wed Jun 09, 2010 10:50 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:Gawd ... :shock: .... talk about stretching things to breaking point and beyond with the usual greekness codswallop.

These and so many other finds confirm that people thousands of years ago were far more adventurous in their travels and sea-faring and in developing trade routes than we sometimes give them credit for.... and it proves an inter-relationship between centres of population based on these tradings, within a web of areas influencing one another, with new technologies of value being replicated or with a similarly multi-directional spread of ideas.

Early Man/Woman invented Networking.

(Please get it out of your heads... this idea that neolithic and bronze age people were sitting around in caves dressed in animal skins waiting for the geeks to come along and bring in new modern ways. They travelled, they inter-mixed, ideas spreading from group to group.)



If the Greeks travelled so did the inhabitants of these lands too. I am sure they were generous with there seed.

:lol:


At the time, the main Seafarers were Greeks and Phoenicians!



Did you look at the map where the artifacts were found? That was Gasmans posted link. Southern Phoenicia covered the area mentioned.


Did you miss out the bit about Mycenaeans - Cyprus? The article didn't mention Phoenicians.


O woman, Paphitis did. :roll:


Did you think I didn't read the article?

Are you trying to be tricky? :lol:
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Postby denizaksulu » Wed Jun 09, 2010 10:55 pm

Paphitis wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:Gawd ... :shock: .... talk about stretching things to breaking point and beyond with the usual greekness codswallop.

These and so many other finds confirm that people thousands of years ago were far more adventurous in their travels and sea-faring and in developing trade routes than we sometimes give them credit for.... and it proves an inter-relationship between centres of population based on these tradings, within a web of areas influencing one another, with new technologies of value being replicated or with a similarly multi-directional spread of ideas.

Early Man/Woman invented Networking.

(Please get it out of your heads... this idea that neolithic and bronze age people were sitting around in caves dressed in animal skins waiting for the geeks to come along and bring in new modern ways. They travelled, they inter-mixed, ideas spreading from group to group.)



If the Greeks travelled so did the inhabitants of these lands too. I am sure they were generous with there seed.

:lol:


At the time, the main Seafarers were Greeks and Phoenicians!



Did you look at the map where the artifacts were found? That was Gasmans posted link. Southern Phoenicia covered the area mentioned.


Did you miss out the bit about Mycenaeans - Cyprus? The article didn't mention Phoenicians.


O woman, Paphitis did. :roll:


Did you think I didn't read the article?

Are you trying to be tricky? :lol:



What them was your point in writing this? "At the time, the main Seafarers were Greeks and Phoenicians!"
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