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[BOF]

I don't think anyone has actually lost any homes in the free areas with the equivalent scams we are presented with by the actions of the Turks in the occupied areas.

Yeah, some loudmouths wanted to extort Billions from Cypriot developers and (inadvertently) over-publicised their own greed, but there are no justified grievances!

from todays Cyprus Mail

Further proof that no one has ACTUALLY lost any of their homes through such scams. But issues of shoddy work and contractual disputes arise as they do anywhere else -- don't encourage me to post evidence from the UK and my friend's fiasco with a "starter home"

Anyone can go crying to the Cyprus Mail with alleged stories. Not disputing this couples plight, but to offer it as a credible link to highlight a point is pathetic. You can dig up shit and on any country is you want. Since the CM sells to the brits, then its obvious they are looking to 'cash in' on these poor peoples misfortunes.

The difference between issues in legalised countries and illegal occupied areas such as the 'trnc', is that, in the illegal areas you can run to no where when you have been shafted.

BOF you certainly live up to your nic. "Big 'Orrible Fartypants"

the thread is about property scams in cyprus is it not?
so whats with the "your dad is worse than my dad" shit?
clearly schools out - be careful how you ride your moped along the road from Orphonides to Elizantre its very dangerous!

[denizaksulu]

I don't think anyone has actually lost any homes in the free areas with the equivalent scams we are presented with by the actions of the Turks in the occupied areas.

Yeah, some loudmouths wanted to extort Billions from Cypriot developers and (inadvertently) over-publicised their own greed, but there are no justified grievances!

from todays Cyprus Mail

Further proof that no one has ACTUALLY lost any of their homes through such scams. But issues of shoddy work and contractual disputes arise as they do anywhere else -- don't encourage me to post evidence from the UK and my friend's fiasco with a "starter home"

Anyone can go crying to the Cyprus Mail with alleged stories. Not disputing this couples plight, but to offer it as a credible link to highlight a point is pathetic. You can dig up shit and on any country is you want. Since the CM sells to the brits, then its obvious they are looking to 'cash in' on these poor peoples misfortunes.

The difference between issues in legalised countries and illegal occupied areas such as the 'trnc', is that, in the illegal areas you can run to no where when you have been shafted.

BOF you certainly live up to your nic. "Big 'Orrible Fartypants"

You are absolutely right. Lot of forumers do the same here too. If it suits you, its a good link; if not to your liking its a 'rubbish' link. Pick and choose at will.

[EricSeans]

Oh Bill go dance on the grave of one of the GCs or Brits that were conned in the south. Such hubris - shows how shallow and pathetic you are.

The issue is not about property of GCs, it is the issue of bent bankers and developers working around insufficient legal regulation.

The rest of the island is moving on post ECHR, though this post is not about that.

Don't be daft, if there was no GC property in the north the issue would never have arisen.
This topic has already been aired on the forum.
http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... highlight=

Click the link on the first post and read about the comments from the thieving carpetbaggers, Pikey tells them like it is and they don't like it up 'em, do they Pike?

Who can you mean, Mr Mainwaring?

[Oracle]

This thread would be improved if the title read:

Horror in N. Cyprus at public Execution for ex-pats houses

[repulsewarrior]

...i would have imagined that the authorities in the north would have demonstrated a different ethos, given how land development is so important to them. what with the seemingly incompetant and corrupt behaviour in the south, it should have been easy for this "government" to demonstrate a better administration, one with the courage to form legislation, in advance, before such incidence, which protects its constituents far better. instead it is far too little far too late, indicating for the most part that it is unable to defend a Rule of Law.

making comparisons, have no useful benefits to the carpetbaggers, "it happens in the south" is specious for a"country" that is supposedly able and sovereign.

[Gasman]

Can't believe anyone is unaware that it goes on in the RoC too. It is given enough publicity.

http://www.cyprus-mail.com/cyprus/bar-association-advises-lawyers-after-landmark-ruling/20100516

The recent landmark case - first time ever a Cyprus lawyer has agreed to take on a case against another lawyer (doctors are the same here):

The lawyer had failed to inform the couple that the property had been twice mortgaged and had a charge registered against it. The developer who signed the contract subsequently went bankrupt and never finished the house.

http://www.cyprus-mail.com/cm-search?ke ... developers

Unscrupulous developers need to be taken to task

... we pointed out in this column two weeks ago, is caused by developers who do not pay off their loans to the banks and thus cannot take ... to wait for his title deed? When someone has paid for a property, he should be able to enjoy the right to ownership immediately and not ...

http://www.cyprus-mail.com/cyprus/property-tax-scam-you-re-your-own

Property tax scam: you’re on your own

while developers are paying the state the correct IPT, which can run into as little as the hundreds of euros, buyers are being asked for thousands, even though if they were in possession of their title deeds they would not have to pay any IPT. CPAG says the developers are pocketing the difference between what they extract from the buyers and what they pay to the state. The group has obtained a legal opinion on the issue, which was given to the government. CPAG says this has been ignored.

http://www.cyprus-mail.com/cyprus/bills-hope-ease-title-deeds-squeeze/20100415

Bills hope to ease up title deeds squeeze

Thousands of home buyers, including many foreign nationals, remain without title deeds for various reasons like minor irregularities in the building or more seriously, the developer not having paid off or is unable to pay off the mortgage.

And the economic downturn and the slump in the property market is not making their lives easier.

The Cyprus property market has received a lot of bad publicity because of the matter, as many foreign buyers, especially British nationals, have taken the issue to their own government.

[DT.]

Can't believe anyone is unaware that it goes on in the RoC too. It is given enough publicity.

http://www.cyprus-mail.com/cyprus/bar-association-advises-lawyers-after-landmark-ruling/20100516

The recent landmark case - first time ever a Cyprus lawyer has agreed to take on a case against another lawyer (doctors are the same here):

The lawyer had failed to inform the couple that the property had been twice mortgaged and had a charge registered against it. The developer who signed the contract subsequently went bankrupt and never finished the house.

http://www.cyprus-mail.com/cm-search?ke ... developers

Unscrupulous developers need to be taken to task

... we pointed out in this column two weeks ago, is caused by developers who do not pay off their loans to the banks and thus cannot take ... to wait for his title deed? When someone has paid for a property, he should be able to enjoy the right to ownership immediately and not ...

http://www.cyprus-mail.com/cyprus/property-tax-scam-you-re-your-own

Property tax scam: you’re on your own

while developers are paying the state the correct IPT, which can run into as little as the hundreds of euros, buyers are being asked for thousands, even though if they were in possession of their title deeds they would not have to pay any IPT. CPAG says the developers are pocketing the difference between what they extract from the buyers and what they pay to the state. The group has obtained a legal opinion on the issue, which was given to the government. CPAG says this has been ignored.

http://www.cyprus-mail.com/cyprus/bills-hope-ease-title-deeds-squeeze/20100415

Bills hope to ease up title deeds squeeze

Thousands of home buyers, including many foreign nationals, remain without title deeds for various reasons like minor irregularities in the building or more seriously, the developer not having paid off or is unable to pay off the mortgage.

And the economic downturn and the slump in the property market is not making their lives easier.

The Cyprus property market has received a lot of bad publicity because of the matter, as many foreign buyers, especially British nationals, have taken the issue to their own government.

The first article if anything shows how well the justice system is imporving here in Cyprus. If a lawyer can be found personally liable for his/her performance then that sets a precedent that very few countries have followed.

The rest show me no example of owners being kicked out of their homes by the banks because they developer defaulted.

[B25]

I don't think anyone has actually lost any homes in the free areas with the equivalent scams we are presented with by the actions of the Turks in the occupied areas.

Yeah, some loudmouths wanted to extort Billions from Cypriot developers and (inadvertently) over-publicised their own greed, but there are no justified grievances!

from todays Cyprus Mail

Further proof that no one has ACTUALLY lost any of their homes through such scams. But issues of shoddy work and contractual disputes arise as they do anywhere else -- don't encourage me to post evidence from the UK and my friend's fiasco with a "starter home"

Anyone can go crying to the Cyprus Mail with alleged stories. Not disputing this couples plight, but to offer it as a credible link to highlight a point is pathetic. You can dig up shit and on any country is you want. Since the CM sells to the brits, then its obvious they are looking to 'cash in' on these poor peoples misfortunes.

The difference between issues in legalised countries and illegal occupied areas such as the 'trnc', is that, in the illegal areas you can run to no where when you have been shafted.

BOF you certainly live up to your nic. "Big 'Orrible Fartypants"

the thread is about property scams in cyprus is it not?
so whats with the "your dad is worse than my dad" shit?
clearly schools out - be careful how you ride your moped along the road from Orphonides to Elizantre its very dangerous!

First of all I don't own a moped and I have no idea what Elizantre is.

Seems you have me mixed up with someone you think i am????

Try again. Oh and don't worry I can take care of myself.

[YFred]

Can't believe anyone is unaware that it goes on in the RoC too. It is given enough publicity.

http://www.cyprus-mail.com/cyprus/bar-association-advises-lawyers-after-landmark-ruling/20100516

The recent landmark case - first time ever a Cyprus lawyer has agreed to take on a case against another lawyer (doctors are the same here):

The lawyer had failed to inform the couple that the property had been twice mortgaged and had a charge registered against it. The developer who signed the contract subsequently went bankrupt and never finished the house.

http://www.cyprus-mail.com/cm-search?ke ... developers

Unscrupulous developers need to be taken to task

... we pointed out in this column two weeks ago, is caused by developers who do not pay off their loans to the banks and thus cannot take ... to wait for his title deed? When someone has paid for a property, he should be able to enjoy the right to ownership immediately and not ...

http://www.cyprus-mail.com/cyprus/property-tax-scam-you-re-your-own

Property tax scam: you’re on your own

while developers are paying the state the correct IPT, which can run into as little as the hundreds of euros, buyers are being asked for thousands, even though if they were in possession of their title deeds they would not have to pay any IPT. CPAG says the developers are pocketing the difference between what they extract from the buyers and what they pay to the state. The group has obtained a legal opinion on the issue, which was given to the government. CPAG says this has been ignored.

http://www.cyprus-mail.com/cyprus/bills-hope-ease-title-deeds-squeeze/20100415

Bills hope to ease up title deeds squeeze

Thousands of home buyers, including many foreign nationals, remain without title deeds for various reasons like minor irregularities in the building or more seriously, the developer not having paid off or is unable to pay off the mortgage.

And the economic downturn and the slump in the property market is not making their lives easier.

The Cyprus property market has received a lot of bad publicity because of the matter, as many foreign buyers, especially British nationals, have taken the issue to their own government.

The first article if anything shows how well the justice system is imporving here in Cyprus. If a lawyer can be found personally liable for his/her performance then that sets a precedent that very few countries have followed.

The rest show me no example of owners being kicked out of their homes by the banks because they developer defaulted.

You have just scratched the surface, for things to be improving; it had to be crappy in first place. After years of corruption and mayhem caused by the lawyers, one lawyer gets taken to task just so it looks as though they are doing something and that is hailed as civilised, to be followed by others. Pull the other one the middle one has bells on it.


When you reach the Title Deeds standards of the EU where you get your deeds the same time you pay your money, then you have something to boast about, but then again some of us have enjoyed such luxuries in a proper eu country for some time.

It would be funny if TRNC resolves it before the roc.

[Oracle]

I don't think anyone has actually lost any homes in the free areas with the equivalent scams we are presented with by the actions of the Turks in the occupied areas.

Yeah, some loudmouths wanted to extort Billions from Cypriot developers and (inadvertently) over-publicised their own greed, but there are no justified grievances!

from todays Cyprus Mail

Further proof that no one has ACTUALLY lost any of their homes through such scams. But issues of shoddy work and contractual disputes arise as they do anywhere else -- don't encourage me to post evidence from the UK and my friend's fiasco with a "starter home"

Anyone can go crying to the Cyprus Mail with alleged stories. Not disputing this couples plight, but to offer it as a credible link to highlight a point is pathetic. You can dig up shit and on any country is you want. Since the CM sells to the brits, then its obvious they are looking to 'cash in' on these poor peoples misfortunes.

The difference between issues in legalised countries and illegal occupied areas such as the 'trnc', is that, in the illegal areas you can run to no where when you have been shafted.

BOF you certainly live up to your nic. "Big 'Orrible Fartypants"

the thread is about property scams in cyprus is it not?
so whats with the "your dad is worse than my dad" shit?
clearly schools out - be careful how you ride your moped along the road from Orphonides to Elizantre its very dangerous!

First of all I don't own a moped and I have no idea what Elizantre is.

Seems you have me mixed up with someone you think i am????

Try again. Oh and don't worry I can take care of myself.

I hope he wasn't making some deranged reference to that unfortunate GC teenager who was followed by some holidaying Brits to ram him off his moped and kill him!
BOF isn't usually like this.
Maybe he's being influenced by that furtive pro-Turk-in-Cyprus gasbag.