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[paliometoxo]

Nice1 bill. Want one aswell but I will wait a while. Until the antennas issues are fixed and see what will happen with the jailbreak scene.

It's a software problem, fix coming out soon.

Well the problem that was first picked up was that if you bridged the break in the steel surround whilst holding the phone, the sig would drop.

I tried to deliberately do this the other day and there was no effect.

Yes, it does seem now that it's a minor software problem that has no effect on performance, with a fix to come.

some people already have no antenna issue or any with 4.0..

[paliometoxo]

I agree it's amazing the screen and recording in hd, I paid for iMovie also. With the battery life I use it non stop heavily for 6 hours roughly and it uses up most the battery.

Btw bill how is the MacBook pro with 4gb of ram? I am going to buy one soon but might wait and get 8gb ram instead what do you think? Plus it will be my first mac

4 gig of Ram is more than good for me mate, browsing, wp'ing, a bit of wordpress work.

and maybe some light gaming

btw did you see the futurama episode 03? it was funny they made fun of the iphone EYEiphone

[denizined]

I think I'll stick to HTC. Had touch diamond, switched to the touch diamond2 and it's the best winmo6.5 phone I've ever used to date. 5 megapixel camera, gps, wifi, 32gb SD card, all the bells and whistles plus the touchflo interface but most importantly for me it comes with MS Excel. If I can't comfortably use excel with a stylus on a phone it's useless to me.

And it's also the sexiest phone I've ever seen/owned:
http://www.google.com/images?q=touch%20 ... =en&tab=wi

[paliometoxo]

Really? You like to use excel on a tiny screen ? The cell phone pens are annoying. But the htc does look very good I was going to get one until my brother told me they are very un reliable also the nexus one google phone I wanted. The htc you have to buy extra sd card of up to 32gb with the iPhone it's on there

[FragnaticDeath]

htc is a brand I will never buy from ever again

[denizined]

Really? You like to use excel on a tiny screen ? The cell phone pens are annoying. But the htc does look very good I was going to get one until my brother told me they are very un reliable also the nexus one google phone I wanted. The htc you have to buy extra sd card of up to 32gb with the iPhone it's on there

It's not that bad using excel on a 3.2-inch screen, especially when you consider that the iphone has a 3.5-screen and you're supposed to be able to do practically anything you want on the iphone (nevermind that whatever you can do on the iphone you can do on the htc), plus once you get used to a stylus nothing beats it in terms of speed and accuracy, the stylus surface area is just a single small point making it very precise whereas thumbs and fingers take up much more surface area while also obscuring your view. When I have to send an email while on the move stylus beats finger input hands down.
Your brother says HTC is unreliable but that's such a broad statement. Unreliable in what exactly? In the last 8 months of owning my HTC it's crashed twice, maybe three times which is more than acceptable considering all the apps I'm running on it (simultaneously mind you )
When it comes to cost-benefit analysis the iphone 4 doesn't beat a year old touch diamond2 which is half the price and can do everything the iphone4 can do plus multitasking and flash support on top of that (let alone something like an HTC Evo 4G with its 8mp camera, 4.3-inch screen, 1ghz snapdragon, hdmi-out)

[paliometoxo]

Well whatever works for you the main reason I did not go with htc is I would of had to buy a sd card where as with my iPhone and nokia I had it came with internal memory of 32gb. Maybe my next phone will be a htc

[paliometoxo]

Apple do bring the features late, all other phones have had these features for years. But they did a good job. Yes flash would be nice also both phones have their good and bad. I'm sure the htc is very good.

[FragnaticDeath]

Really? You like to use excel on a tiny screen ? The cell phone pens are annoying. But the htc does look very good I was going to get one until my brother told me they are very un reliable also the nexus one google phone I wanted. The htc you have to buy extra sd card of up to 32gb with the iPhone it's on there

It's not that bad using excel on a 3.2-inch screen, especially when you consider that the iphone has a 3.5-screen and you're supposed to be able to do practically anything you want on the iphone (nevermind that whatever you can do on the iphone you can do on the htc), plus once you get used to a stylus nothing beats it in terms of speed and accuracy, the stylus surface area is just a single small point making it very precise whereas thumbs and fingers take up much more surface area while also obscuring your view. When I have to send an email while on the move stylus beats finger input hands down.
Your brother says HTC is unreliable but that's such a broad statement. Unreliable in what exactly? In the last 8 months of owning my HTC it's crashed twice, maybe three times which is more than acceptable considering all the apps I'm running on it (simultaneously mind you )
When it comes to cost-benefit analysis the iphone 4 doesn't beat a year old touch diamond2 which is half the price and can do everything the iphone4 can do plus multitasking and flash support on top of that (let alone something like an HTC Evo 4G with its 8mp camera, 4.3-inch screen, 1ghz snapdragon, hdmi-out)

Have you ever used an iphone?

[ChPhCh]

The problem is not related to the software and therefore there will be no fix in the next update.

The problem has to do with the way the device is designed. If you avoid touching the black sim on the lower left side of the phone you will have zero problems.

Some people say that they do not have the problem simply because they are in an area with strong signal. The scale for the signal is -51 dB for the strongest to -113 for the weakest. Having 5 bars on the phone simply means that you have signal anywhere in the (-89, -51) range. After some tests it's now well known that the iPhone 4 drops about 20 dB. So, if you start having something close to -51 with the drop you go to -71 and your phone still displays full bars. If you started with -89 on the other hand, you can go down to -109 i.e. zero to one bar. If you press and hold the phone tighter you can drop 24 dB.

All phones have a drop when you hold them but the drop for the iPhone 4 is more significant.