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Turkish Frigates F244 and F243 in Greek Waters.

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Postby Nikitas » Wed Jun 09, 2010 9:08 am

the buzzing involved flying 150 feet over the ship, during a programmed and fully announced exercise, a formal protest is being filed today. The fact remains that the turkish air force would love to cause the Greeks to switch on their full anti air craft response, but this is not happening. With 1400 islands it is obvious that they want to know exactly which ones and are not hosting what the military call "assets".
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Re: Turkish Frigates F244 and F243 in Greek Waters.

Postby Get Real! » Wed Jun 09, 2010 9:21 am

Paphitis wrote:Turkish Frigates F244 and F243 in Greek Waters.

This insignificant garbage between Greece and Turkey has NOTHING to do with the CyProb, but incompetent Paphitis who probably had to bribe half of Australia to get a Cessna license :roll: knows no better…
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Postby denizaksulu » Wed Jun 09, 2010 9:24 am

Nikitas wrote:the buzzing involved flying 150 feet over the ship, during a programmed and fully announced exercise, a formal protest is being filed today. The fact remains that the turkish air force would love to cause the Greeks to switch on their full anti air craft response, but this is not happening. With 1400 islands it is obvious that they want to know exactly which ones and are not hosting what the military call "assets".



Was there a treaty which stated that the Aegean islands belonging to Greece should remain de-militarised. Was it the Lausanne Treaty?
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Postby DT. » Wed Jun 09, 2010 10:12 am

denizaksulu wrote:
Nikitas wrote:the buzzing involved flying 150 feet over the ship, during a programmed and fully announced exercise, a formal protest is being filed today. The fact remains that the turkish air force would love to cause the Greeks to switch on their full anti air craft response, but this is not happening. With 1400 islands it is obvious that they want to know exactly which ones and are not hosting what the military call "assets".



Was there a treaty which stated that the Aegean islands belonging to Greece should remain de-militarised. Was it the Lausanne Treaty?


I think its just Mytilini and a few others close to Turkey.
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Postby denizaksulu » Wed Jun 09, 2010 10:57 am

DT. wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Nikitas wrote:the buzzing involved flying 150 feet over the ship, during a programmed and fully announced exercise, a formal protest is being filed today. The fact remains that the turkish air force would love to cause the Greeks to switch on their full anti air craft response, but this is not happening. With 1400 islands it is obvious that they want to know exactly which ones and are not hosting what the military call "assets".



Was there a treaty which stated that the Aegean islands belonging to Greece should remain de-militarised. Was it the Lausanne Treaty?


I think its just Mytilini and a few others close to Turkey.


I better dig old my old archives from my olde laptop.
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Postby Oracle » Wed Jun 09, 2010 11:04 am

Throw Turkey out of NATO. They are a disgrace!
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Postby denizaksulu » Wed Jun 09, 2010 11:12 am

It appears youwere partially correct DT. But also the Dodecanese was also included. There were two treaties involved, Laussanne and the treaty of Paris.


C. http://ngklaw.com/index.php?page=treaty ... is-of-1947


"Because Greece militarized the Northern Islands and the Dodecanese in violation of the de- militarization provisions of the Treaties Turkey may suspend or terminate the Treaties.
Under each Treaty, the Northern Islands and the Dodecanese were demilitarized. Because Greece had re-militarized these islands, Turkey argues that Greece has materially breached each of the Treaties. Turkey is therefore entitled to suspend or terminate its observance of the Treaties.
Unlike the other Northern Islands, Limnos and Samothraki were demilitarized in a document that was executed at the same time at which the Treaty of Lausanne was executed called the Lausanne Convention on the Straits. The Montreux Convention on the Straits of 1936 superceded the Lausanne Convention and enabled the militarization of those islands so that the re-militarization argument fails with respect to Limnos and Samothraki. The Montreux Convention did not, however, affect the demilitarized status of Lesbos, Chios, Samos and Ikaria and, in fact, that Convention confirmed the demilitarized status of those islands"
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Re: Turkish Frigates F244 and F243 in Greek Waters.

Postby Paphitis » Wed Jun 09, 2010 11:25 am

Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:Turkish Frigates F244 and F243 in Greek Waters.

This insignificant garbage between Greece and Turkey has NOTHING to do with the CyProb, but incompetent Paphitis who probably had to bribe half of Australia to get a Cessna license :roll: knows no better…


It has everything to do with the Cyprus Problem! Turkey's power and Geopolitical plays in the region not only apply to Greece and Israel, but also apply and are a threat to Cyprus.

BTW, I have less than 20 hours on Cessnas, and I doubt I can even remember how to start one up!
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Re: Turkish Frigates F244 and F243 in Greek Waters.

Postby EricSeans » Wed Jun 09, 2010 12:26 pm

Paphitis wrote:Another Turkish provocation is currently under way.

Turkish Naval Frigates F244 Barbaros and F243 Yildrim Yavus are in the Saronic Gulf near Athens.

The 2 MEKO 200 Class Frigates, have been sailing in and out of Greek Territorial Waters!

First Greece, then Cyprus, now Israel and Greece once again!

Turkey will not just stop with Israel. It's Geopolitical posturing will hinder regional stability.

Greece should not have cancelled its joint Military exercise with Israel! Stupid!

http://agora-dialogue.com/?p=7134



They should avoid this kind of behaviour bearing in mind what confusion and bad leadership has led to in the past.

http://www.turkiye-wrecks.com/kocatepeeng.html
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Postby repulsewarrior » Wed Jun 09, 2010 1:22 pm

...Greece demonstrates a very strong will, and a clear vision of their international responsibility. Turkey will go too far, with the hope that their incursions will forever be ignored by the global community. like a house made out of cards, when it falls, it will collapse in ruin completely.
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