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Cyprus Leaders Criticize Turkey During Pope Visit

Postby Get Real! » Sat Jun 05, 2010 10:20 pm

Cyprus Leaders Criticize Turkey During Pope Visit

PAPHOS, Cyprus — In the presence of Pope Benedict XVI, Cypriot religious and political leaders unleashed a furious broadside on Friday against Turkey, whose troops have occupied northern Cyprus since 1974.

Archbishop Chrysostomos II, the leader of the Orthodox Church of Cyprus, accused Turkey of an “obscure plan” to take over the entire island and called for the pope’s “active cooperation” in resolving the longstanding dispute.


http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/05/world ... ?ref=world


What is this... Turkey open season? Within the space of a couple of days Turkey's religious fallout includes Jews, Orthodox and now Catholics! :lol:
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Postby turkkan » Sat Jun 05, 2010 11:24 pm

Pope: Turkey, its people can’t be held responsible for bishop’s murder

Pope greets faithful as he enters the Church of Agia Kyriaki Chrysopolitissa.
Pope Benedict XVI said on Friday that the brutal killing of a leading Catholic bishop in Turkey should not be allowed to hinder dialogue about Islam or stain the image of Turkey and its people.



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“Turkey and the Turkish people cannot be held responsible,” he told reporters on a plane taking him to Cyprus for a three-day visit, marking the first by a pontiff to the ethnically divided island nation.

“We are still awaiting a full explanation, but we don't want to mix up this tragic episode with Islam. It is a case apart which saddens us but should not be allowed to darken the dialogue [with Islam] in any way,” the pope said. “Muslims are our brothers despite our differences,” he added. Papal Apostolic Vicar in Anatolia Bishop Luigi Padovese, an Italian and a leading proponent of Christian dialogue with Islam, was stabbed to death by his Turkish driver on Thursday. It was the pope's first comment on the killing of Padovese, who was to have participated in the pope's trip to Cyprus.

The pontiff also said he did not believe the killing of Padovese was politically or religiously motivated.Cyprus, an island divided between ethnic Turks and Greeks, is viewed by the Vatican as a bridge between Europe and the Mideast. The pope's visit is expected to be a key test of whether the pope has found his diplomatic feet after his linking of Islam to violence during a speech in Germany led to outrage in the Muslim world -- and nearly forced the cancellation of a trip to Turkey in 2006.

Touching upon the lethal Israeli raid on a Gaza aid flotilla east of the island, which killed nine civilians, the pope said that hope for Middle East peace should not be lost. “In all of these episodes we have been living through, there has always been the danger that people lose patience and say, ‘I no longer want to seek peace,’” the pope told reporters en route to Cyprus. “In the face of each instance of violence, you must not lose patience or courage,” he said. “You always have to begin again afresh in the certainty that you can go forward and achieve peace.” He said peace would not come “from one day to the next.”

“It is very important not only to take the necessary policy steps but also to ready the men capable of taking these necessary steps so that they can open their hearts to peace,” he added. Benedict, meanwhile, also underlined that he hoped that Cyprus’s divided Greek and Turkish communities could find the “desire for harmony” to reach peace.

The pope was scheduled to meet in Cyprus with prelates from the region to set an agenda for an October meeting in Rome to build a strategy to stem an exodus of Catholics from the Holy Land, Iraq because of violence and economic hardship. The Middle East includes Christian communities.

Benedict also faces issues on the division in Cyprus, splits in the Orthodox Christian community and concerns over damaged Christian and Muslim houses of worship. Cyprus was ethnically split in 1974 when Turkey militarily intervened on the island after a coup by supporters of a union with Greece. Turkish Cypriots declared an independent republic in the north, the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus (KKTC), in 1983, but only Turkey recognizes it and maintains 35,000 troops there.

The Greek Cypriot ambassador to the Holy See, George F. Poulides, said Benedict will be staying at the Vatican Nunciature, located right on the so-called Green Line in Nicosia -- the UN-patrolled buffer zone between bullet-pocked buildings and army sentry posts separating the ethnically divided communities. A government official in Ankara said Turkey would be watching the visit closely and may comment if there is a sign of political support for the Greek Cypriots or any allusion to the alleged destruction of churches in the north.



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Postby Gasman » Sat Jun 05, 2010 11:34 pm

The Greek Cypriot ambassador to the Holy See, George F. Poulides, said Benedict will be staying at the Vatican Nunciature, located right on the so-called Green Line in Nicosia -- the UN-patrolled buffer zone between bullet-pocked buildings and army sentry posts


Bit of a culture shock for Papa after the splendour of the Vatican!

I doubt he will go out of his way to sort Cyprus's probs out. There were enough Cyps demonstrating against his visit. And weren't there Greeks threatening to come over and demonstrate too?
Returning to the ecclesial aspect of Benedict XVI's visit, the Archbishop of Cyprus has rebuked two metropolitans, Athanasios of Lemesso and Pavlos of Kirinias who have spoken out against the Pope's presence in Cyprus, threatening fire and flames and finding an ally in the Metropolitan Seraphim of Piraeus, who in turn has threatened a massive landing of "pure" Orthodox believers on the island against the visit. Crysostmos has brought them to order, reminding them to respect their commitments and threatening them with suspension, adding: "I invited them to behave properly and respect the decisions of the synod, which they had initially agreed with”. And the necessary consequences will be met at the end of the visit.
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Postby Gasman » Sat Jun 05, 2010 11:39 pm

NICOSIA, Cyprus – Pope Benedict XVI appealed Saturday for support for embattled Christian communities in the Middle East, calling them a vital force for peace in the region.

He also met with a Turkish Cypriot Muslim religious leader, part of careful diplomacy reaching out to both sides in the decades-old conflict between ethic Greeks and Turks on the divided island.

Benedict's three-day pilgrimage to Cyprus is part of preparations for a crisis summit of Middle East bishops in Rome in October. Many bishops from the region have traveled to Cyprus to see Benedict and receive a working paper for the summit that will be made public


What happened to the idea that Cyprus was NOT in the Middle East? Was now in Europe?
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Postby Get Real! » Sun Jun 06, 2010 12:10 am

Gasman wrote:
The Greek Cypriot ambassador to the Holy See, George F. Poulides, said Benedict will be staying at the Vatican Nunciature, located right on the so-called Green Line in Nicosia -- the UN-patrolled buffer zone between bullet-pocked buildings and army sentry posts


Bit of a culture shock for Papa after the splendour of the Vatican!

Culture shock ain't the word... :lol:

I have a feeling he regrets ever setting foot here after all the crappy places he's been taken to!
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Re: Cyprus Leaders Criticize Turkey During Pope Visit

Postby runaway » Sun Jun 06, 2010 11:06 am

Get Real! wrote:south cyprus Leaders Criticize Turkey During Pope Visit


surprise surprise. And the crucial question is: Who cares???
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Postby Gasman » Sun Jun 06, 2010 11:13 am

I have a feeling he regrets ever setting foot here after all the crappy places he's been taken to!


Not to mention the number of miserable 'music to hang yerself to' hymns he's had to listen to!
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Re: Cyprus Leaders Criticize Turkey During Pope Visit

Postby denizaksulu » Sun Jun 06, 2010 12:25 pm

Get Real! wrote:Cyprus Leaders Criticize Turkey During Pope Visit

PAPHOS, Cyprus — In the presence of Pope Benedict XVI, Cypriot religious and political leaders unleashed a furious broadside on Friday against Turkey, whose troops have occupied northern Cyprus since 1974.

Archbishop Chrysostomos II, the leader of the Orthodox Church of Cyprus, accused Turkey of an “obscure plan” to take over the entire island and called for the pope’s “active cooperation” in resolving the longstanding dispute.


http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/05/world ... ?ref=world


What is this... Turkey open season? Within the space of a couple of days Turkey's religious fallout includes Jews, Orthodox and now Catholics! :lol:



Do you think that falling out with the Catholics, Orthodox and Jews matters much to Turkey. Its swings and roundabouts. They have almost the whole of the Islamic world behind them now. I think that does matter - unfortunately viv-a vis - peace in Cyprus.
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Re: Cyprus Leaders Criticize Turkey During Pope Visit

Postby Malapapa » Sun Jun 06, 2010 1:58 pm

runaway wrote:
runaway incorrectly quotes Get Real! as saying wrote:south cyprus Leaders Criticize Turkey During Pope Visit


surprise surprise. And the crucial question is: Who cares???


Listen, you eastern Greek twit. Just because you have ignorantly and erronously termed the area of Cyprus controlled by Turkey's military 'north Cyprus' it doesn't follow that the rest of the island is 'south Cyprus'.

Perhaps you'd like to look at a map of Cyprus and explain to me how northern areas free of troops from Turkey - such as Tilliria and Akamas, with coastlines facing due north - can, in anyway, be considered to be situated in 'south Cyprus'.
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Re: Cyprus Leaders Criticize Turkey During Pope Visit

Postby Oracle » Sun Jun 06, 2010 3:22 pm

Malapapa wrote:
runaway wrote:
runaway incorrectly quotes Get Real! as saying wrote:south cyprus Leaders Criticize Turkey During Pope Visit


surprise surprise. And the crucial question is: Who cares???


Listen, you eastern Greek twit. Just because you have ignorantly and erronously termed the area of Cyprus controlled by Turkey's military 'north Cyprus' it doesn't follow that the rest of the island is 'south Cyprus'.

Perhaps you'd like to look at a map of Cyprus and explain to me how northern areas free of troops from Turkey - such as Tilliria and Akamas, with coastlines facing due north - can, in anyway, be considered to be situated in 'south Cyprus'.


Hey, don't give him abstract ideas. He'll be marching all the way to the equator to secure the whole of the northern hemisphere next.
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