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Postby gabaston » Thu Jul 28, 2005 11:51 pm

Because this is what they claim it doesn't mean it is this way.


exactly what i am saying piratis. it also doesnt mean it is any another way either.

without a constitution how can we define legal?



hmmm... 45 post already, is this a record?
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Jul 28, 2005 11:56 pm

Piratis you ahve to come to terms with the fact the the situation has changed since 1960, we all messed that up and TCs cannot go backwards to that era we can only develop a new agreement on a two constituent state basis under the Federal umbrella of United Cyprus Republic. Otherwise recognized partition is the only thing that will follow the current status quo, this may take many years but it will come little by little. Dont you take notice of TCs saying they would rather live under the current situation than unite with people (GCs) with a mindset that is outdated and blinkered, we all have to be flexible in our approach, the Cyprus issue needs inventiveness and compromise not rigid text book solutions...with the same regurgitation we hear coming from you and other GC members.
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Postby Khan » Fri Jul 29, 2005 12:55 am

Piratis wrote:Khan, when I said that TCs are thieves I am talking about those that support the stealing of our properties because they directly or indirectly benefit from this stealing. These are thieves.

I apologize that if I didn't give this explanation earlier to the TCs that support the return of all property to their legal owners. However I am afraid these TCs are the minority. (and they are the minority in this forum also)

If you know Greek Cypriots that were involved in the murder of TCs then you have the right to call those people murderers. However have you seen any GC in here supporting those murders? On the other hand, most (not all) TCs in here support the stealing of our properties. These people are thieves.


Piratis, may i remind you that the majority of people you call thieves are the people who voted for unification which would have seen a substantial number of GC's have their properties returned. Yes, not all GC would have right of return, but that is compromise for the TC right to self-determination.

What do TC's get for this gesture? Nothing. They get GC politicians trying to strangle them into giving into every GC demand, now forgive us today for gaining some pleasure from the court ruling which allows us to breathe that little bit easier.

As a moderator start showing some responsibility to your status and stop calling TC's thieves and rapists. Its inexcusable.
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Postby Main_Source » Fri Jul 29, 2005 1:56 am

we all have to be flexible in our approach, the Cyprus issue needs inventiveness and compromise not rigid text book solutions...with the same regurgitation we hear coming from you and other GC members.


Tell this to Talat, who was offered various ways in which the road for unification and goodwill could be reached...but would not budge unless he was granted semi recognition of the northern Cyprus.

What do TC's get for this gesture? Nothing. They get GC politicians trying to strangle them into giving into every GC demand, now forgive us today for gaining some pleasure from the court ruling which allows us to breathe that little bit easier.


Which demands...you know full well it is Talat who is being rigid...knowing that he has what many GC want.

Illegal has been a snappy big word in the gc arsenal of propaganda catch-phrases


The invasion has been deemed illegal by international law as well as ECHR...simple. How is it legal to advertise the exploitation of someone's stolen land?
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Postby erolz » Fri Jul 29, 2005 2:08 am

Main_Source wrote: The invasion has been deemed illegal by international law as well as ECHR...simple. How is it legal to advertise the exploitation of someone's stolen land?


You should read the ruling for you have clearly misunderstood it with the above sommnet. It also might be of some use to realise that a high court judge almost certainly has a better understanding of what is legal and what is illegal than yourself?
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Postby Piratis » Fri Jul 29, 2005 2:19 am

Piratis, may i remind you that the majority of people you call thieves are the people who voted for unification


When did this happen? They just voted for the USA made plan (see my avatar) for the partition of Cyprus. Nothing more than that.
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Postby gabaston » Sun Jul 31, 2005 10:42 pm

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Postby erolz » Sun Jul 31, 2005 10:54 pm

HellenicNationalist your signature is not acceptable. Please change it before making any more posts or they will be removed.
As a moderator I can not edit your signature file so I will reproduce your post below. Any futher posts with this unacceptable signature will be removed and not replaced. Thank you


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erolz wrote:
Piratis wrote:Give us our properties back and take yours.


What is the topic of this thread?

Piratis wrote:Why not?

The answer is simple: You want to gain or our loss. With the invasion you grabbed more than twice the amount of land that you left behind.

THIEVES!!


Be prepared to give us back our rights as a Community and we will discuss the return of your properties. Refuse to discuss giving us back our rights then do not expect us to rush to solve your issues. Why do you insist that your properties be returned to you whilst also denying our rights as a community that you stole from us? Is the answer that you are a hypocritcal theif?


The Pakistani Minority in the United Kingdom has, by decree of an uncodified Constitution, it's rights enshrined in law and protected to the same extent as any other community, including the indigenous British community. The Turkish immigrants to Cyprus from 300 years ago will have the same rights as the Cypriot population, but the Cypriots (The Greeks) are still a majority and therefore in any kind of pluralistic democracy are likely to elect more members of their community to parliament.

Legal Equality? Fine, no problem.

50-50 Settlement in Parliament? No chance!
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Postby gabaston » Sun Jul 31, 2005 11:07 pm

so do you agree or disagree that the 1960 constitution giving tc equal power was a load of bllx?


by the way cuba still welcomes you.




look we all know who u r.......................
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Postby gabaston » Mon Aug 01, 2005 12:10 am

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ok fair enuf. but hell be back under some other guise soon.
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