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[DT.]

If that is what the "clown" is doing then call him up on it based upon the details. Call the b.s. as it effects the proximity talks, the international players will do the rest, all C has done is play further delay tactics.

Thursday’s meeting between President Demetris Christofias and Turkish Cypriot leader Dervis Eroglu was postponed at Christofias’ initiative, after statements by Eroglu questioning the basis of the talks.

[YFred]

If that is what the "clown" is doing then call him up on it based upon the details. Call the b.s. as it effects the proximity talks, the international players will do the rest, all C has done is play further delay tactics.

Thursday’s meeting between President Demetris Christofias and Turkish Cypriot leader Dervis Eroglu was postponed at Christofias’ initiative, after statements by Eroglu questioning the basis of the talks.

Eroglu promissed to underpin the agreed chapters so far? what's wrong with that. Better than Muhtaro X who went back to the beginning.

[Acikgoz]

Yes, DT, but the matter is getting into the details of the discussion. Think how many global issues are not resolved because the steps are not taken to sit down and hammer things out and instead find an excuse to delay dealing with the problem or issue.
Look, I am not criticising GCs here, I am even fine with Eroglu being called a clown, but if you think Eroglu is a clown, is it smart to get to his level or worse? Of course not.
Then again, I guess I've answered my own cause of frustration, somehow us Cypriots can only have clowns for leaders - thanks for the moment of therapy DT.

[DT.]

Yes, DT, but the matter is getting into the details of the discussion. Think how many global issues are not resolved because the steps are not taken to sit down and hammer things out and instead find an excuse to delay dealing with the problem or issue.
Look, I am not criticising GCs here, I am even fine with Eroglu being called a clown, but if you think Eroglu is a clown, is it smart to get to his level or worse? Of course not.
Then again, I guess I've answered my own cause of frustration, somehow us Cypriots can only have clowns for leaders - thanks for the moment of therapy DT.

How do you enter into details if while you're playing on a football pitch someone (clown) decides to move the game to a basketball court?

Can't disagree with your last sentence.

[halil]

Transcript of Remarks by Special Adviser of the Secretary-General Alexander Downer following the
Meeting of Cyprus leaders

United Nations Protected Area, Nicosia,
3 June 2010


At about ten to ten this morning, Mr Iacovou rang me to say that Mr Christofias thought it would be better if the leaders meeting was postponed and that the Representatives instead met this morning. But we were unable to stop Mr Eroglu’s convoy in time. Mr Christofias, realizing that Mr Eroglu had nevertheless arrived, Mr Christofias sent a message to say that he would come across and meet with Mr Eroglu. So they had a brief meeting. And the Representatives will now meet together this afternoon at 2.30. Next week I shall be in New York for a meeting with the United Nations Security Council to talk about the Cyprus issue. So, because I will be away, there won’t be a meeting of the leaders next week, but there will be meetings of the Representatives during the course of next week.

Question: The delay, what was the reason?

Mr Downer: Well, if you want to go into the reason, I suggest you take that matter up with the two sides rather than us imposing ourselves as an interpreter.

Question: Is there any special reason why you met Mr Christofias outside and not Mr Eroglu?

Mr Downer: No. That’s a good question, by the way, and thank you for asking it. The explanation for that is that we had sent a message to Mr Eroglu’s convoy that Mr Christofias thought it was better that the Representatives were to meet. I hadn’t realized at that time that the message…that they hadn’t been able to turn around, Mr Eroglu’s convoy. So, I saw from the window of the building that he had arrived and dashed out here as quickly as I could. But by then he had come into the building. It is merely a logistical matter, not of any political significance.

Question: Do you have a common base…?

Mr Downer: I’ll leave it to the leaders and their spokesmen to talk about any other aspects of this that they wish to talk about.

Question: During the 15 minutes of their meeting, what questions came up?

Mr Downer: Well, they had a very friendly discussion, and, again, I’ll leave that to the leaders if they wish to express a view about that, whether they do or not, I don’t know.

Question: Do both leaders accept the message of the Secretary-General as the basis for their talks?

Mr Downer: As I’ve said, I’m not getting into any policy or any political issues here today. I think that’s a matter that you’d need to take up with them.

http://www.unficyp.org/nqcontent.cfm?a_ ... ic&lang=l1

[halil]

http://www.cyprusweekly.com.cy/main/92,1,283,0,9284-.aspx

NICOSIA - Thursday’s meeting between President Demetris Christofias and Turkish Cypriot leader Dervis Eroglu was postponed at Christofias’ initiative, after statements by Eroglu questioning the basis of the talks.

Christofias said that he asked for the postponement of the meeting with a view to avoid a crisis and a deadline at the talks and asked for the issue to be discussed by the two leaders’ advisers George Iacovou and Kudret Ozersay, adding that the Turkish Cypriot side agreed to this.

Christofias and Eroglu had a very brief discussion at the venue where the direct talks are held on Thursday morning since Eroglu arrived there before the Greek Cypriot side’s request for the postponement of the meeting was conveyed to him.

“We talked a bit about this process. This was accepted by him. It is clear that Eroglu came under big pressure from his opposition last week and it seems that it is under pressure that the made these statements. Everyone is under some pressure. Either we have the courage to go on, on the basis which is crystal clear, or every time that we are under attack from our domestic front we will review our positions,” Christofias said.
Asked if Eroglu does not want this and is under big pressure, Christofias said: “I don’t know. I can’t talk on Eroglu’s behalf.”

Eroglu who commented on the cancellation of today's meeting said Christofias did not show up without informing. Eroglu said Christofias was disturbed by Eroglu's remarks saying only his letter to UN Secretary General was binding for him. He said Christofias perceived this as an attempt to open the foundations of extensive talks to discussion.

He said their aim was to reach an agreement by the end of the year and they did not intend to create crisis or leave the negotiation table.

Eroglu said he already told Christofias that they would discuss all chapters and sub-topics in their first meeting, adding that there was no need to be oversensitive.

[Acikgoz]

there was no need to be oversensitive. [/b]

When it comes to bashing TCs bring on the combat boots, when it comes to subtle syntax suddenly Christofias is a delicate sensitive flower, ahh petal.

[Nikitas]

Politis paper has a photo of them during the meeting.

[YFred]

there was no need to be oversensitive. [/b]

When it comes to bashing TCs bring on the combat boots, when it comes to subtle syntax suddenly Christofias is a delicate sensitive flower, ahh petal.

Why cancle the meeting? If there is a problem to sort out, why not have the meeting and sort the problem out what ever it may be.

[Acikgoz]

Call me a cynic, but it looks like Mr C doesn't wants to find an exit route for the discussions - ahhh petal