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Postby BirKibrisli » Thu Jun 03, 2010 3:45 pm

YFred wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
YFred wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
Bananiot wrote:Of course not, carry on as normal, despite Eroglu.


Don't you have coffe or tea or lokum at these serious meetings,Bananiot??? How boringgggg... :wink: :)


Have you tried eating Lokum and talking. I hope none of them have false teeth.


That's why it comes with a glass of cold water...Yummmmmmm...just had one...Listening to Yusuf Islam on TV sing one of his new songs...

Now you are talking. My son went to same college as his daughter.
What a singer. I am glad he started singing again.


Yep,seems he has lost nothing of his lovely melodious voice...His father is a GC ,isn't he???
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Postby Paphitis » Thu Jun 03, 2010 3:48 pm

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repulsewarrior wrote:...indeed Omer.

there are extremists here too, who have taken the position that they are a Nation apart, insisting on their Statehood. in Quebes they have taken the expression, "Vivre le Quebec Libre", much has been made of this statement by DeGaulle, as he stood on a balcony in Montreal overwhelmed by the joy of the crowds that day.

...i think he was more interested in the liberty which all Quebecers were celebrating that day, in Peace and Together, but that doesn't make good copy in the news does it.

Certainly Francophones reside over the whole of Canada's geography, where numbers warrant schools, hospitals etc. are established. Canada recognises their Linguistic Rights, like the Anglophones, being Officially bilingual. Every citizen has the right to be served in one of these two languages. But, like in Cyprus Intolerance is there and it is still a struggle outside the Federal Government for those who embrace this future against those who wish to resist any change.

I'd like to add that Rene Levesque may have sought Sovereignty-Association, not as a Seperatist however, but as a Canadian, unlike some in his Party who eventually drove him out.


Well, its a great country to live in. One I admire very much. However imperfect it is, I wish Cyprus could be in Canada's position. Our current position is very bad and everybody I speak to, mostly apathetic people, dislike the status quo.


Cyprus is NOT in "Canada's position" because both the Colonialist French and Colonialist English arrived at similarly recent times and usurped the natives. So your fellow Anglophones and Francophones are NOT the equivalent of the native Greek Cypriots and the wanna-rule minority TCs, much as you would like it to be to pretend "partnership".

I'm also sure you wish there was "historical equivalence" so that you can neutralise the real long-term Grecophone nature of the island.

But colonialists you are and colonialist you will remain if you do not integrate with the long-term established nature of Cyprus and stop Ottoman-like grabbing what is most firmly NOT yours to grab, claim and change!


[Of course, once again if you cannot counter what is logical and true, you can laugh and pretend it's not serious!]


Once again, I don't like it when you make such statements.

It really is quite amazing the progress and achievements of the very young nations such as Canada, Oz and NZ. If the GCs are not like them, then perhaps they should try to be exactly like them.
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Postby Paphitis » Thu Jun 03, 2010 3:49 pm

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BirKibrisli wrote:If Cypriots could agree on a day to celebrate their own national day we would not be in the situation we are in now...The truth of the mattter is Cypriotism will never take off as long as the status quo continues...What we have is partition along ethnic lines,and there are very influential forces on both sides whose interests coincide with keeping things as they are...Instead of wasting our time on cosmetic symbols we should think of ways to foster trust and understanding which might just lead us to empathy and compassion for each other as human beings...Trying to introduce Cypriot nationalism to counter Greek and Turkish nationalism is like sending boy and girl scouts in fishing boats to break the Israeli seige of Gazza... :(



You're doing a fine job of that, aren't you?


How true! :lol:
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Postby YFred » Thu Jun 03, 2010 3:56 pm

BirKibrisli wrote:
YFred wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
YFred wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
Bananiot wrote:Of course not, carry on as normal, despite Eroglu.


Don't you have coffe or tea or lokum at these serious meetings,Bananiot??? How boringgggg... :wink: :)


Have you tried eating Lokum and talking. I hope none of them have false teeth.


That's why it comes with a glass of cold water...Yummmmmmm...just had one...Listening to Yusuf Islam on TV sing one of his new songs...

Now you are talking. My son went to same college as his daughter.
What a singer. I am glad he started singing again.


Yep,seems he has lost nothing of his lovely melodious voice...His father is a GC ,isn't he???

Yes and his mother is Swedish.
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Postby BirKibrisli » Thu Jun 03, 2010 3:56 pm

Paphitis wrote:
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BirKibrisli wrote:If Cypriots could agree on a day to celebrate their own national day we would not be in the situation we are in now...The truth of the mattter is Cypriotism will never take off as long as the status quo continues...What we have is partition along ethnic lines,and there are very influential forces on both sides whose interests coincide with keeping things as they are...Instead of wasting our time on cosmetic symbols we should think of ways to foster trust and understanding which might just lead us to empathy and compassion for each other as human beings...Trying to introduce Cypriot nationalism to counter Greek and Turkish nationalism is like sending boy and girl scouts in fishing boats to break the Israeli seige of Gazza... :(



You're doing a fine job of that, aren't you?


How true! :lol:


Heyyyy...You don't have to agree with everything he says... :lol:
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Postby YFred » Thu Jun 03, 2010 3:58 pm

BirKibrisli wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Omer Seyhan wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:If Cypriots could agree on a day to celebrate their own national day we would not be in the situation we are in now...The truth of the mattter is Cypriotism will never take off as long as the status quo continues...What we have is partition along ethnic lines,and there are very influential forces on both sides whose interests coincide with keeping things as they are...Instead of wasting our time on cosmetic symbols we should think of ways to foster trust and understanding which might just lead us to empathy and compassion for each other as human beings...Trying to introduce Cypriot nationalism to counter Greek and Turkish nationalism is like sending boy and girl scouts in fishing boats to break the Israeli seige of Gazza... :(



You're doing a fine job of that, aren't you?


How true! :lol:


Heyyyy...You don't have to agree with everything he says... :lol:

Puffidobullois is like the vilage bike. He goes with anything anybody says.
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Postby Paphitis » Thu Jun 03, 2010 3:58 pm

BirKibrisli wrote:
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Omer Seyhan wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:If Cypriots could agree on a day to celebrate their own national day we would not be in the situation we are in now...The truth of the mattter is Cypriotism will never take off as long as the status quo continues...What we have is partition along ethnic lines,and there are very influential forces on both sides whose interests coincide with keeping things as they are...Instead of wasting our time on cosmetic symbols we should think of ways to foster trust and understanding which might just lead us to empathy and compassion for each other as human beings...Trying to introduce Cypriot nationalism to counter Greek and Turkish nationalism is like sending boy and girl scouts in fishing boats to break the Israeli seige of Gazza... :(



You're doing a fine job of that, aren't you?


How true! :lol:


Heyyyy...You don't have to agree with everything he says... :lol:


I wasn't!

I was agreeing to Omer's sarcasm! :lol:
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Postby Gasman » Thu Jun 03, 2010 4:19 pm

I am so envious of you living there and attending these coffee mornings.
Why can't we do one here in London?


Gawd! Does ANYONE who posts on here actually live in Cyprus (and I don't mean just 'own a house here', 'holiday here' or 'feel their heart or home is here' whilst actually living thousands of miles from here).
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Postby YFred » Thu Jun 03, 2010 4:21 pm

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I am so envious of you living there and attending these coffee mornings.
Why can't we do one here in London?


Gawd! Does ANYONE who posts on here actually live in Cyprus (and I don't mean just 'own a house here', 'holiday here' or 'feel their heart or home is here' whilst actually living thousands of miles from here).

I have two personalities. One never left Cyprus.
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Postby Gasman » Thu Jun 03, 2010 4:22 pm

I have two personalities. One never left Cyprus.


See above.

You don't count as someone who lives in Cyprus to me!
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