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[YFred]

I suppose EOKA day on the 1st April doesn't count as a National Cyprus day then?

No, we need a brand new start to suit a new Cyprus. Look below how in Canada everybody joins in on Canada Day, Isn't it beautiful?

What does the Quebecians think of that day?

[repulsewarrior]

...there is a day in Quebec, June 24, where their Patron Saint (John the Baptist) is celebrated.

July 1 is celebrated as well...

similarly, May 24, is Victoria Day in Canada; in Quebec it is the day to remember Patriots, some of which ironically are English.

this is a good idea Omer...

[Omer Seyhan]

I suppose EOKA day on the 1st April doesn't count as a National Cyprus day then?

No, we need a brand new start to suit a new Cyprus. Look below how in Canada everybody joins in on Canada Day, Isn't it beautiful?

What does the Quebecians think of that day?

Many French Canadians celebrate it as do Acadians and Metis. Quebecois is term coined by Quebec nationalists especially Rene Levesque of the Parti Quebecois as a 'distinct identity' from Canada. Quebecois see themselves as a nation within a nation, in the same way that the Iniuts and different Amerindian tribes do.

BUT be careful, don't upset people by suggesting that all French Canadians call themselves Quebecois. It's not the case. There are many pro-Canadian pro-Unity French Canadians among them many Canadian Federalist Prime Ministers. Sir Wildred Laurier, Pierre Trudeau, Jean Chretien, Louis St Laurent......

[Omer Seyhan]

PS: There are French Canadians in Ontario and Manitoba who do not identify as "Quebecois" as they do not live in or come from Quebec.

[repulsewarrior]

...indeed Omer.

there are extremists here too, who have taken the position that they are a Nation apart, insisting on their Statehood. in Quebes they have taken the expression, "Vivre le Quebec Libre", much has been made of this statement by DeGaulle, as he stood on a balcony in Montreal overwhelmed by the joy of the crowds that day.

...i think he was more interested in the liberty which all Quebecers were celebrating that day, in Peace and Together, but that doesn't make good copy in the news does it.

Certainly Francophones reside over the whole of Canada's geography, where numbers warrant schools, hospitals etc. are established. Canada recognises their Linguistic Rights, like the Anglophones, being Officially bilingual. Every citizen has the right to be served in one of these two languages. But, like in Cyprus Intolerance is there and it is still a struggle outside the Federal Government for those who embrace this future against those who wish to resist any change.

I'd like to add that Rene Levesque may have sought Sovereignty-Association, not as a Seperatist however, but as a Canadian, unlike some in his Party who eventually drove him out.

[Omer Seyhan]

...indeed Omer.

there are extremists here too, who have taken the position that they are a Nation apart, insisting on their Statehood. in Quebes they have taken the expression, "Vivre le Quebec Libre", much has been made of this statement by DeGaulle, as he stood on a balcony in Montreal overwhelmed by the joy of the crowds that day.

...i think he was more interested in the liberty which all Quebecers were celebrating that day, in Peace and Together, but that doesn't make good copy in the news does it.

Certainly Francophones reside over the whole of Canada's geography, where numbers warrant schools, hospitals etc. are established. Canada recognises their Linguistic Rights, like the Anglophones, being Officially bilingual. Every citizen has the right to be served in one of these two languages. But, like in Cyprus Intolerance is there and it is still a struggle outside the Federal Government for those who embrace this future against those who wish to resist any change.

I'd like to add that Rene Levesque may have sought Sovereignty-Association, not as a Seperatist however, but as a Canadian, unlike some in his Party who eventually drove him out.

Well, its a great country to live in. One I admire very much. However imperfect it is, I wish Cyprus could be in Canada's position. Our current position is very bad and everybody I speak to, mostly apathetic people, dislike the status quo.

[Oracle]

...indeed Omer.

there are extremists here too, who have taken the position that they are a Nation apart, insisting on their Statehood. in Quebes they have taken the expression, "Vivre le Quebec Libre", much has been made of this statement by DeGaulle, as he stood on a balcony in Montreal overwhelmed by the joy of the crowds that day.

...i think he was more interested in the liberty which all Quebecers were celebrating that day, in Peace and Together, but that doesn't make good copy in the news does it.

Certainly Francophones reside over the whole of Canada's geography, where numbers warrant schools, hospitals etc. are established. Canada recognises their Linguistic Rights, like the Anglophones, being Officially bilingual. Every citizen has the right to be served in one of these two languages. But, like in Cyprus Intolerance is there and it is still a struggle outside the Federal Government for those who embrace this future against those who wish to resist any change.

I'd like to add that Rene Levesque may have sought Sovereignty-Association, not as a Seperatist however, but as a Canadian, unlike some in his Party who eventually drove him out.

Well, its a great country to live in. One I admire very much. However imperfect it is, I wish Cyprus could be in Canada's position. Our current position is very bad and everybody I speak to, mostly apathetic people, dislike the status quo.

Cyprus is NOT in "Canada's position" because both the Colonialist French and Colonialist English arrived at similarly recent times and usurped the natives. So your fellow Anglophones and Francophones are NOT the equivalent of the native Greek Cypriots and the wanna-rule minority TCs, much as you would like it to be to pretend "partnership".

I'm also sure you wish there was "historical equivalence" so that you can neutralise the real long-term Grecophone nature of the island.

But colonialists you are and colonialist you will remain if you do not integrate with the long-term established nature of Cyprus and stop Ottoman-like grabbing what is most firmly NOT yours to grab, claim and change!


[Of course, once again if you cannot counter what is logical and true, you can laugh and pretend it's not serious!]

[BirKibrisli]

If Cypriots could agree on a day to celebrate their own national day we would not be in the situation we are in now...The truth of the mattter is Cypriotism will never take off as long as the status quo continues...What we have is partition along ethnic lines,and there are very influential forces on both sides whose interests coincide with keeping things as they are...Instead of wasting our time on cosmetic symbols we should think of ways to foster trust and understanding which might just lead us to empathy and compassion for each other as human beings...Trying to introduce Cypriot nationalism to counter Greek and Turkish nationalism is like sending boy and girl scouts in fishing boats to break the Israeli seige of Gazza...

[DT.]

The National Day of Cyprus is the 1st of October

[Omer Seyhan]

...indeed Omer.

there are extremists here too, who have taken the position that they are a Nation apart, insisting on their Statehood. in Quebes they have taken the expression, "Vivre le Quebec Libre", much has been made of this statement by DeGaulle, as he stood on a balcony in Montreal overwhelmed by the joy of the crowds that day.

...i think he was more interested in the liberty which all Quebecers were celebrating that day, in Peace and Together, but that doesn't make good copy in the news does it.

Certainly Francophones reside over the whole of Canada's geography, where numbers warrant schools, hospitals etc. are established. Canada recognises their Linguistic Rights, like the Anglophones, being Officially bilingual. Every citizen has the right to be served in one of these two languages. But, like in Cyprus Intolerance is there and it is still a struggle outside the Federal Government for those who embrace this future against those who wish to resist any change.

I'd like to add that Rene Levesque may have sought Sovereignty-Association, not as a Seperatist however, but as a Canadian, unlike some in his Party who eventually drove him out.

Well, its a great country to live in. One I admire very much. However imperfect it is, I wish Cyprus could be in Canada's position. Our current position is very bad and everybody I speak to, mostly apathetic people, dislike the status quo.

Cyprus is NOT in "Canada's position" because both the Colonialist French and Colonialist English arrived at similarly recent times and usurped the natives. So your fellow Anglophones and Francophones are NOT the equivalent of the native Greek Cypriots and the wanna-rule minority TCs, much as you would like it to be to pretend "partnership".

I'm also sure you wish there was "historical equivalence" so that you can neutralise the real long-term Grecophone nature of the island.

But colonialists you are and colonialist you will remain if you do not integrate with the long-term established nature of Cyprus and stop Ottoman-like grabbing what is most firmly NOT yours to grab, claim and change!


[Of course, once again if you cannot counter what is logical and true, you can laugh and pretend it's not serious!]

Do you work for Turkish Intelligence? I'm very suspicious of your motives.