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[Oracle]

So, why is the whole of Greece to blame, 35 years later, for the act of a few criminals?

Because the world does NOT work like that… if it had you would’ve been STRIPPED of all your arguments too like…

Why is Turkey to blame for Ecevit’s folly?

Turkey never tried Ecevit as a criminal. They support his invasion 100%. Whereas the Greeks did try the junta as criminals. You proved it!

Why is Turkey to blame for the Armenians?

Because they deny the genocide and refuse to do justice by the Armenians. Greece does not deny what the junta has done and they are attempting to reverse that crime.

Etc ...

None of your examples are identical to the Junta/Cyprus situation, but that does not detract from the fact they did NOT represent Greece and they were indeed punished, by our ally Greece!

Now, get over it and recognise the one true enemy of Cyprus, Turkey, which is probably more than even our combined efforts (Greece and Cyprus) can manage ...

[Get Real!]

So, why is the whole of Greece to blame, 35 years later, for the act of a few criminals?

Because the world does NOT work like that… if it had you would’ve been STRIPPED of all your arguments too like…

Why is Turkey to blame for Ecevit’s folly?

Turkey never tried Ecevit as a criminal. They support his invasion 100%. Whereas the Greeks did try the junta as criminals. You proved it!

Why is Turkey to blame for the Armenians?

Because they deny the genocide and refuse to do justice by the Armenians. Greece does not deny what the junta has done and they are attempting to reverse that crime.

Etc ...

None of your examples are identical to the Junta/Cyprus situation, but that does not detract from the fact they did NOT represent Greece and they were indeed punished, by our ally Greece!

Now, get over it and recognise the one true enemy of Cyprus, Turkey, which is probably more than even our combined efforts (Greece and Cyprus) can manage ...

NOTHING can ever change history, and the fact remains that if it were not for Greece’s attack on Cyprus the Turkish one would not have followed!

Greece & Turkey remain Cyprus’ arch enemies.

Even the very existence of characters like you, Piratis, Yialoser, and many others is EVIDENCE of poisoned Cypriots operated on by Greece even though the year is 2010!

Greece’s attacks on Cyprus are as relentless as ever…

[Hatter]

So, why is the whole of Greece to blame, 35 years later, for the act of a few criminals?

Because the world does NOT work like that… if it had you would’ve been STRIPPED of all your arguments too like…

Why is Turkey to blame for Ecevit’s folly?

Turkey never tried Ecevit as a criminal. They support his invasion 100%. Whereas the Greeks did try the junta as criminals. You proved it!

Why is Turkey to blame for the Armenians?

Because they deny the genocide and refuse to do justice by the Armenians. Greece does not deny what the junta has done and they are attempting to reverse that crime.

Etc ...

None of your examples are identical to the Junta/Cyprus situation, but that does not detract from the fact they did NOT represent Greece and they were indeed punished, by our ally Greece!

Now, get over it and recognise the one true enemy of Cyprus, Turkey, which is probably more than even our combined efforts (Greece and Cyprus) can manage ...

NOTHING can ever change history, and the fact remains that if it were not for Greece’s attack on Cyprus the Turkish one would not have followed!

Greece & Turkey remain Cyprus’ arch enemies.

Even the very existence of characters like you, Piratis, Yialoser, and many others is EVIDENCE of poisoned Cypriots operated on by Greece even though the year is 2010!

Greece’s attacks on Cyprus are as relentless as ever…

Like when they napalmed Cyprus in 1964? Oh, wait a minute, that wasn't Greece, that was Turkey ... well, it must be Greece's fault because 10 years later the most anti-Hellenic criminals installed in government office in Athens were going to stage a coup in Cyprus, huh, GR? Are you deliberately obtuse or just obtuse? "Greece's attacks on Cyprus" my **s!

[Bananiot]

Give it up GR, you are fighting a lost cause. 1974 was a one off event, that had detrimental effects on Cyprus, no doubt. What you also failed to see is the fact that Makarios and the official RoC, prepared the ground for the Turkish invasion, should the "right" time arrive. We were saved at the last minute in 1964 and 1967 but still we didn't learn. We wanted at the time a solution made to measure to our wishes and we accepted nothing less, not even the agreement reached by Klerides-Denktash in the early 70's. In this way, we kept the issue open and given the right circumstances, anything could have happened. This applies very much so today.

You also make the mistake to think that the junta had no support in Cyprus. On April 21st 1967 and July 15th 1974, Cyprus was suddenly flooded with junta supporters. These were Cypriots who played an instrumental role in the consolidation of the coup, despite Makarios's popular support. Without these Cypriots the junta would not have taken root in Cyprus. As I told you before, stop blaming others for our predicament and start thinking in terms of how we can turn to rational policy making which is the only shield a small country like Cyprus has.

[DT.]

Give it up GR, you are fighting a lost cause. 1974 was a one off event, that had detrimental effects on Cyprus, no doubt. What you also failed to see is the fact that Makarios and the official RoC, prepared the ground for the Turkish invasion, should the "right" time arrive. We were saved at the last minute in 1964 and 1967 but still we didn't learn. We wanted at the time a solution made to measure to our wishes and we accepted nothing less, not even the agreement reached by Klerides-Denktash in the early 70's. In this way, we kept the issue open and given the right circumstances, anything could have happened. This applies very much so today.

You also make the mistake to think that the junta had no support in Cyprus. On April 21st 1967 and July 15th 1974, Cyprus was suddenly flooded with junta supporters. These were Cypriots who played an instrumental role in the consolidation of the coup, despite Makarios's popular support. Without these Cypriots the junta would not have taken root in Cyprus. As I told you before, stop blaming others for our predicament and start thinking in terms of how we can turn to rational policy making which is the only shield a small country like Cyprus has.

Is the occupation a one off event as well?

[Bananiot]

You too, DT? We were talking about Greece's involvement in Cyprus and I pointed out to GR that on most occasions we only got sound, rational advice from Greece which our thick head could not compute.

[DT.]

You too, DT?

I'm the bullshit monitor today.

[Bananiot]

Just tell GR to change the tune ...

[DT.]

Just tell GR to change the tune ...

He'll only put on an even worse one

[Get Real!]

1974 was a one off event, that had detrimental effects on Cyprus, no doubt.

Can you name a war or lesser hostility that was a two-off event?

What you also failed to see is the fact that Makarios and the official RoC, prepared the ground for the Turkish invasion, should the "right" time arrive. We were saved at the last minute in 1964 and 1967 but still we didn't learn.

You mean via the 12,000 Greek soldiers that made their way to Cyprus?

You also make the mistake to think that the junta had no support in Cyprus. On April 21st 1967 and July 15th 1974, Cyprus was suddenly flooded with junta supporters. These were Cypriots who played an instrumental role in the consolidation of the coup, despite Makarios's popular support. Without these Cypriots the junta would not have taken root in Cyprus.

What do I keep saying? That Greece constantly poisoned the minds and souls of many of our compatriots… some even to this day unfortunately!

As I told you before, stop blaming others for our predicament...

But you’re not answering the questions…which of the 18 convicted Greek traitors was giving Cyprus “sound” advice from 1967 to 1974?

Your insistence on letting Greece off speaks volumes Bananiot…could it be that your mind was also poisoned at the time but have since evolved into the new bizarre you?

It’s interesting because upon their failure, all Greek nationalists turned against Greek Cypriots blaming them for everything… but never their beloved Greece!

Maybe its time you put your cards on the table…