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[YFred]

You are being silly bigOz. You have been jumping to conclusions without even reading carefully the posts and your credence is diminishing fast.

I have read enough posts and know almost what everyone is about without having to read between the lines. For me the main theme is enough!

Whose main "ally" is Greece? and who is Oracle implying by "we"? Certainly not TCs or Ethnic TCs who write in this forum! So what the hell are you talking about me being silly?

In any case - do not expect a sensible discussion over a "silly" thread title as this one's!

Big Oz chock yanlishsing. Helembare ozur dile. Bananiat gibi insan bulamang ve soyldikleringi soylemedi.

Ma de bana birkac tane fazla icding o gece.

Hade bakalim ha, utandirma bizi.

I have already apologised for any wrong comments on my part! (see above)...

In any case I am in agreement with a great majority of what bananiot says in this forum...

Sorry, I am a slow typist, by the time I typed my message you posted.

Yoksa sonra Aliko ve Caheri gaybedebiling ha.

[bigOz]

You are being silly bigOz. You have been jumping to conclusions without even reading carefully the posts and your credence is diminishing fast.

I have read enough posts and know almost what everyone is about without having to read between the lines. For me the main theme is enough!

Whose main "ally" is Greece? and who is Oracle implying by "we"? Certainly not TCs or Ethnic TCs who write in this forum! So what the hell are you talking about me being silly?

In any case - do not expect a sensible discussion over a "silly" thread title as this one's!

I thought you cockily said you knew it all.

"We" is anyone who supports the RoC and the sovereignty of Cyprus, as I do. And Greece is an ally of the RoC. Hence why you violate its air space, as you do Cyprus'!

Your input isn't necessary so don't tire your jet-lagged brain any further.

No you don't! There are many TCs who also support ROC and its sovereignty (but not necessarily in your terms). AND they see Greece as an enemy of the cause! YOU support a ROC A.K.A. a Greek island!

That does not mean Turkish main landers or TCs have no respect for any Greek politicians. I know for a fact that a great majority of people in both Turkey and N Cyprus were very happy Ppdpls was elected as a president. Not because he is a bad politician (as a rival) but because there is a strong sense of genuineness about his efforts for a peaceful co-existence of Greeks and Turks wherever they are.

[Oracle]

You are being silly bigOz. You have been jumping to conclusions without even reading carefully the posts and your credence is diminishing fast.

I have read enough posts and know almost what everyone is about without having to read between the lines. For me the main theme is enough!

Whose main "ally" is Greece? and who is Oracle implying by "we"? Certainly not TCs or Ethnic TCs who write in this forum! So what the hell are you talking about me being silly?

In any case - do not expect a sensible discussion over a "silly" thread title as this one's!

I thought you cockily said you knew it all.

"We" is anyone who supports the RoC and the sovereignty of Cyprus, as I do. And Greece is an ally of the RoC. Hence why you violate its air space, as you do Cyprus'!

Your input isn't necessary so don't tire your jet-lagged brain any further.

No you don't! There are many TCs who also support ROC and its sovereignty (but not necessarily in your terms). AND they see Greece as an enemy of the cause! YOU support a ROC A.K.A. a Greek island!

That does not mean Turkish main landers or TCs have no respect for any Greek politicians. I know for a fact that a great majority of people in both Turkey and N Cyprus were very happy Ppdpls was elected as a president. Not because he is a bad politician (as a rival) but because there is a strong sense of genuineness about his efforts for a peaceful co-existence of Greeks and Turks wherever they are.

If TCs "support the RoC and its sovereignty", then they recognise and support its chosen allies and the means to restore rightful administration with the help of Greece. Or, are you going to tell me there is another RoC which does not view Greece as an ally and this is the one which suits RoC-supporting TCs? I don't think you've quite made your mind up.

[bigOz]

You are being silly bigOz. You have been jumping to conclusions without even reading carefully the posts and your credence is diminishing fast.

I have read enough posts and know almost what everyone is about without having to read between the lines. For me the main theme is enough!

Whose main "ally" is Greece? and who is Oracle implying by "we"? Certainly not TCs or Ethnic TCs who write in this forum! So what the hell are you talking about me being silly?

In any case - do not expect a sensible discussion over a "silly" thread title as this one's!

I thought you cockily said you knew it all.

"We" is anyone who supports the RoC and the sovereignty of Cyprus, as I do. And Greece is an ally of the RoC. Hence why you violate its air space, as you do Cyprus'!

Your input isn't necessary so don't tire your jet-lagged brain any further.

No you don't! There are many TCs who also support ROC and its sovereignty (but not necessarily in your terms). AND they see Greece as an enemy of the cause! YOU support a ROC A.K.A. a Greek island!

That does not mean Turkish main landers or TCs have no respect for any Greek politicians. I know for a fact that a great majority of people in both Turkey and N Cyprus were very happy Ppdpls was elected as a president. Not because he is a bad politician (as a rival) but because there is a strong sense of genuineness about his efforts for a peaceful co-existence of Greeks and Turks wherever they are.

If TCs "support the RoC and its sovereignty", then they recognise and support its chosen allies and the means to restore rightful administration with the help of Greece. Or, are you going to tell me there is another RoC which does not view Greece as an ally and this is the one which suits RoC-supporting TCs? I don't think you've quite made your mind up.

Oh! I give up!

[denizaksulu]

You are being silly bigOz. You have been jumping to conclusions without even reading carefully the posts and your credence is diminishing fast.

I have read enough posts and know almost what everyone is about without having to read between the lines. For me the main theme is enough!

Whose main "ally" is Greece? and who is Oracle implying by "we"? Certainly not TCs or Ethnic TCs who write in this forum! So what the hell are you talking about me being silly?

In any case - do not expect a sensible discussion over a "silly" thread title as this one's!

Big Oz chock yanlishsing. Helembare ozur dile. Bananiat gibi insan bulamang ve soyldikleringi soylemedi.

Ma de bana birkac tane fazla icding o gece.

Hade bakalim ha, utandirma bizi.

I have already apologised for any wrong comments on my part! (see above)...

In any case I am in agreement with a great majority of what bananiot says in this forum...

Sorry, I am a slow typist, by the time I typed my message you posted.

Yoksa sonra Aliko ve Caheri gaybedebiling ha.

Hop dedik, ama yavolle be, kim kimi gaybetti gene? Hich da rahat durmazsiniz haaa!!

[Get Real!]

1974 was a one off event GR and the junta was in charge at the time.

This must be some bizarre kind of new humor...

You mean like the holocaust was a one-off event, WWI was a one-off event, Americas’ invasion of Panama was a one-off event?

Thus, you would be a right idiot to base all your conclusions on this event alone. Greece, on the whole, has given us sound advice but your prejudices will not allow you to see beyond your reality.

The Greek government responsible for the coup in Cyprus was in power for 7 whole years and recognised worldwide.

No less than 18 top ranking Greeks were convicted of mutliple charges of this crime including...

George Papadopoulos - Death, Life
Nicolaos Makarezos - Death, Life
Stilianos Patakos - Death, Life

Gregorious Spandidakis - 10 years, loss of civil rights 5, Life
Georgios Zoitakin - 10 years, loss of civil rights 5, Life
Odysseas Angelis - 8 years, 17 years, loss of civil rights 5
Dimitris Ioannides - 10 years, life, loss of civil rights 5
Ioannis Lada - 10 years, life , loss of civil rights 5
Antonios Lekkan - 10 years, life, loss of civil rights 5
Mihail Roufogalin - 10 years, life, loss of civil rights 5
Konstandinos Papadopoulou - 10 years, life, loss of civil rights 5
Michael Mbaloboulon - 10 years, life, loss of civil rights 5
Dimitrios Stamateloboulon - 8 years, 4 years
Stefanon Karamberin - 6 years, 13 years, loss of civil rights 5
Nicolaos Gandonan - 6 years, 13 years, loss of civil rights 5
Evangelon Tsakan - 4 years, 7 years, loss of civil rights 5
Nicolaos Dertilin - 16 years, 17 years, loss of civil rights 5
Georgion Konstandopoulon - 4 years, 11 years, loss of civil rights 5

So which of the above convicted traitors were giving Cyprus good advice Bananiot?

Info taken from... "Oi diki dis houndas"

[Oracle]

No less than 18 top ranking Greeks were convicted of mutliple charges of this crime including...

George Papadopoulos - Death, Life
Nicolaos Makarezos - Death, Life
Stilianos Patakos - Death, Life

Gregorious Spandidakis - 10 years, loss of civil rights 5, Life
Georgios Zoitakin - 10 years, loss of civil rights 5, Life
Odysseas Angelis - 8 years, 17 years, loss of civil rights 5
Dimitris Ioannides - 10 years, life, loss of civil rights 5
Ioannis Lada - 10 years, life , loss of civil rights 5
Antonios Lekkan - 10 years, life, loss of civil rights 5
Mihail Roufogalin - 10 years, life, loss of civil rights 5
Konstandinos Papadopoulou - 10 years, life, loss of civil rights 5
Michael Mbaloboulon - 10 years, life, loss of civil rights 5
Dimitrios Stamateloboulon - 8 years, 4 years
Stefanon Karamberin - 6 years, 13 years, loss of civil rights 5
Nicolaos Gandonan - 6 years, 13 years, loss of civil rights 5
Evangelon Tsakan - 4 years, 7 years, loss of civil rights 5
Nicolaos Dertilin - 16 years, 17 years, loss of civil rights 5
Georgion Konstandopoulon - 4 years, 11 years, loss of civil rights 5

So which of the above convicted traitors were giving Cyprus good advice Bananiot?

Info taken from... "Oi diki dis houndas"

Since these people were convicted of crimes, by Greece; it stands to reason they were not representative of Greece/Greeks!

They were punished for aberrant behaviour! Proving that Greece is, under normal/usual circumstances, an ally of Cyprus. You have proven Bananiot's point that this was a one-off abnormality by this bunch of criminals.

[Get Real!]

Since these people were convicted of crimes by Greece; it stands to reason they were not representative of Greece nor Greeks!

I guess they must've been aliens from outer space then...

Oracle, are you SURE you’ve had a tertiary education?

[Oracle]

Since these people were convicted of crimes by Greece; it stands to reason they were not representative of Greece nor Greeks!

I guess they must've been aliens from outer space then...

Oracle, are you SURE you’ve had a tertiary education?

Yes, just before my quaternary!

Now, did everyone support EOKA in the 50's? No! There were some GCs who were aberrant and betrayed EOKA. Criminals. Not representative of most GCs

Later, did all the GCs resist the junta in 1974? No! Not all Cyprus is to blame because some GCs were traitors.

So, why is the whole of Greece to blame, 35 years later, for the act of a few criminals?

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[Get Real!]

So, why is the whole of Greece to blame, 35 years later, for the act of a few criminals?

Because the world does NOT work like that… if it had you would’ve been STRIPPED of all your arguments too like…

Why is Turkey to blame for Ecevit’s folly?

Why is Turkey to blame for the Armenians?

Why is America to blame for Vietnam?

Etc…

Did you not foresee the fallacy in your thinking?