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Postby Gasman » Thu Jun 03, 2010 2:34 pm

instead of being occupants of a rather insignificant rock in the south eastermost part of the Mediterranean.


That's how I see the problem. Cypriots just don't feel 'important' enough to matter in their own right.

Other very small countries do.

Seems to me that Cypriots COULD but they cannot 'get over' the 'other side' being perceived as being as 'important' as their side.

It's never going to work is it? I now just hope for a solution that will allow me to travel the whole island with my dog. Given up on anything better than that.
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Postby DT. » Thu Jun 03, 2010 2:42 pm

Gasman wrote:That's how I see the problem. Cypriots just don't feel 'important' enough to matter in their own right.

Other very small countries do.

Seems to me that Cypriots COULD but they cannot 'get over' the 'other side' being perceived as being as 'important' as their side.

It's never going to work is it? I now just hope for a solution that will allow me to travel the whole island with my dog. Given up on anything better than that.


You seem to have made up your mind about a lot of things that Cypriots "think" they are, "wish" they were or "try" to be. Not to mention what you think Cypriots "can" and "can't" do.

As a Cypriot who claims no such profound knowledge of my compatriots as you do I need to ask.....who the fuck do you "think" YOU are? :roll:
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Postby YFred » Thu Jun 03, 2010 3:20 pm

DT. wrote:
Gasman wrote:That's how I see the problem. Cypriots just don't feel 'important' enough to matter in their own right.

Other very small countries do.

Seems to me that Cypriots COULD but they cannot 'get over' the 'other side' being perceived as being as 'important' as their side.

It's never going to work is it? I now just hope for a solution that will allow me to travel the whole island with my dog. Given up on anything better than that.


You seem to have made up your mind about a lot of things that Cypriots "think" they are, "wish" they were or "try" to be. Not to mention what you think Cypriots "can" and "can't" do.

As a Cypriot who claims no such profound knowledge of my compatriots as you do I need to ask.....who the fuck do you "think" YOU are? :roll:

My word big guns are out. I would watch if I was you Gasman(I hope you are wearing your goztashi watch on your wrist), you have come to the attention of the forum honey monster, unless of course he has shaved his beared off in which case he has become a woosimonster. If the latter is true, I would't even bother to reply.
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Postby Acikgoz » Thu Jun 03, 2010 5:12 pm

And when I say GCs look for Greece to get involved yet object to Turkey's involvement the hypocracy somehow doesn't register. (Not all GCs or TCs want the external influence, but plenty do).
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Postby Get Real! » Thu Jun 03, 2010 8:34 pm

Bananiot wrote:Not quite so, GR. It is always heartening to put the blame on others but I am sorry to tell you that the main culprit in this case is us, GC's, who on numerous occasions we pointed an accusing finger at Greece for giving us, rational, sound advice to behave ourselves.

I don’t know where you get this bollocks from because what happened on the 15th of July 1974 is officially called…

“THE 1974 GREEK COUP”

…and certainly not…

“THE 1974 CYPRIOT COUP AGAINST GREECE’S WISHES!”

It was funded, instigated, and led by the Greek government of the time and upon their collapse its major politicians were tried and convicted of this act.

In case you missed it, there were COURT CONVICTIONS of Greek politicians for the Greek coup in Cyprus.
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Postby Gasman » Thu Jun 03, 2010 8:51 pm

You seem to have made up your mind about a lot of things that Cypriots "think" they are, "wish" they were or "try" to be. Not to mention what you think Cypriots "can" and "can't" do.


As I said in my post:

how I see the problem...


and

Seems to me...


And it is Cypriots (esp. on this forum) that have made it 'seem that way' to me and responsible for 'how I see it'.

I do love the way Brits on this forum are always more or less being told to butt out of any comment on Cyprus.

Yet all the Cypriots living in the UK that use the forum seem to think it is OK to criticise the UK government, the UK in general and anyone from there who now has decided to live in Cyprus (unlike themselves who have decided not to!)

Double standards.

Just like the double standards when they proclaim themselves to be Proud Modern Europeans and part of the big wide Europe one day, then insular Cypriots telling all 'foreigners' to butt out because 'they know nothing' the next!

I am as entitled to my opinions about the country I live in (Cyprus) and have lived in for years as anyone else living here is - IMHO. I'm not running for bloody President!

I wonder where do you live? Another 'armchair' Cypriot by any chance?
It's no wonder some of those can only dwell in and hash over the distant past.
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Postby Malapapa » Thu Jun 03, 2010 9:20 pm

Gasman wrote:Yet all the Cypriots living in the UK that use the forum seem to think it is OK to criticise the UK government,


True.

Gasman wrote:the UK in general


Not true.

Gasman wrote:and anyone from there who now has decided to live in Cyprus


Not true.

Gasman wrote:(unlike themselves who have decided not to!)


Not true. Plus it's difficult to contemplate going to your home in Cyprus when a large number of armed foreign hired killers would rather you didn't.
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Postby Bananiot » Thu Jun 03, 2010 10:27 pm

1974 was a one off event GR and the junta was in charge at the time. Thus, you would be a right idiot to base all your conclusions on this event alone. Greece, on the whole, has given us sound advice but your prejudices will not allow you to see beyond your reality.
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Postby Malapapa » Thu Jun 03, 2010 10:42 pm

What GR! fails to realise is that the opposite to love isn't hate, it's indifference. (And to prove it I don't know why I even bothered to contribute to a thread about Greece).
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Postby bigOz » Thu Jun 03, 2010 10:49 pm

Bananiot wrote:1974 was a one off event GR and the junta was in charge at the time. Thus, you would be a right idiot to base all your conclusions on this event alone. Greece, on the whole, has given us sound advice but your prejudices will not allow you to see beyond your reality.

So, if 1974 was a one off event = why the hell can't you get over the Turkish military invasion and the subsequent population movement? :D
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